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True or false? Exposing the falsehoods of climate change sceptics
France24 ^ | November 1, 2021

Posted on 11/01/2021 6:56:42 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

As the COP26 climate summit gets under way in the Scottish city of Glasgow amid projections of an apocalyptic future if drastic changes are not made, climate change sceptics still make statements like “global warming is caused by the sun" and “there is no scientific consensus”. FRANCE 24 spoke to climatologist Hervé Le Treut, who deconstructed these falsehoods.

True or false? “The climate has changed before so it’s not a big deal”

We’ve had a stable climate for 10,000 years. So we’re specifically trying to protect the climatic conditions that have allowed humanity to develop during this period. The question is whether or not we want to continue with the climate that has allowed human civilisation to emerge.

True or false? “The sun causes global warming”

This idea has been repeatedly shown to be untrue. The sun’s radiation does indeed fluctuate, with sunspots varying in their levels of activity. But these changes in the sun’s radiation can’t account for the increase in temperatures we’ve seen over the past decades. The notion is impossible to defend scientifically.

True or false? “The situation isn’t all that serious; the IPCC is far too alarmist”

The IPCC report was produced by the unanimous agreement of every country signed up to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change. That’s a lot of countries [197, to be precise].

So there’s very strong unanimity, which makes it difficult to accuse the IPCC of saying anything incorrect.

True or false? “People, animals and plants will be able to just adapt’

There’s a lot of documentation pointing to how so much biodiversity is disappearing – often related to environmentally unfriendly forms of agriculture in addition to greenhouse gas emissions.

So it’s quite clear from the evidence we’re seeing today that the adaptation of species is not happening.

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To: devere

“ Why republish nonsense?”

Because it’s good to know their nonsense when preparing to debate idiots.


21 posted on 11/01/2021 7:23:12 AM PDT by Jayster (Legalize Marijuana )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The question is whether or not we want to continue with the climate that has allowed human civilisation to emerge.

This makes several assumptions.

...changes in the sun’s radiation can’t account for the increase in temperatures we’ve seen over the past decades.

The notion is impossible to defend scientifically.

So is your assertion that the sun's radiation is a non-factor. It is a factor, how large? Still being determined.

The IPCC report was produced by the unanimous agreement of every country signed up to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change. That’s a lot of countries [197, to be precise].

Oh good. Science has never been about consensus. Science is about truth. Until a scientific discovery is made, the consensus is it doesn't exist. The consensus was once that the earth was flat. The consensus was once that electricity in the form of lighting bolts came from angry gods and electricity itself was an unknown. The consensus was once that nuclear power was non-existent. The consensus was once that viruses and bacteria didn't exist and that disease and sickness were from angry gods. Etc. etc. Consensus is never, NEVER a valid defense of a position.

So there’s very strong unanimity, which makes it difficult to accuse the IPCC of saying anything incorrect.

SMH - mafia tactics.

So it’s quite clear from the evidence we’re seeing today that the adaptation of species is not happening.

Wow, hundreds of millions of years of evolution have suddenly stopped in their tracks? I'd say we have a far larger issue than what the temperature is going to be tomorrow. When someone makes absurd assertions such as this it is impossible to take them seriously on any issue.

22 posted on 11/01/2021 7:23:47 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Biden/Harris - illegitimate and everyone knows it.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
“We've had a stable climate for 10,000 years.”

What a bald faced lie. I wonder if they think the global catastrophe that happened around 536-37 AD was stable.

Besides that, this period we are in is the normal cycle-and those cycles are generally short in geological time. The earth fluctuates between extreme warm periods to ice ages.

23 posted on 11/01/2021 7:23:51 AM PDT by crz
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To: marktwain

A lot of false logic in those idiotic statements.


As usual.

Lots of really good information here, though:
https://realclimatescience.com/

And on this channel: https://realclimatescience.com/


24 posted on 11/01/2021 7:26:11 AM PDT by cuban leaf (My prediction: Harris is Spiro Agnew. We'll soon see who becomes Gerald Ford, and our next prez.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The whole basis of the global warming b.s. is that freedom will destroy the planet, so we must have socialism.


25 posted on 11/01/2021 7:26:24 AM PDT by EastTexasTraveler
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To: cuban leaf

Sorry about that. The youtube channel is here: https://www.youtube.com/c/TonyHeller/playlists


26 posted on 11/01/2021 7:27:33 AM PDT by cuban leaf (My prediction: Harris is Spiro Agnew. We'll soon see who becomes Gerald Ford, and our next prez.)
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To: labordog

Actually, CNN ran an item about this on Oct. 9, but I take your point. There have been quite a few more news stories about the record high temperature measured in Antarctica on Feb. 9, 2020, as if one day’s temperature at one weather station proves some sort of global trend.


27 posted on 11/01/2021 7:33:27 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If the climate fearmongers were honest, they would have a REAL debate in an open forum with those scientists who disagree with them completely lacking the presence of coercion.

But they don’t and they won’t. To them, “managing climate change” is a tool for gaining totalitarian control over the masses. . . world wide.


28 posted on 11/01/2021 7:34:21 AM PDT by RatRipper (The Biden Adm is leading an attack against US citizens . . . pure evil.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Sunspots? How about the fact that one good CME would send the equivalent of MILLIONS of atomic bombs of energy toward our planet. Do you suppose that would change the climate?


29 posted on 11/01/2021 7:41:23 AM PDT by RideForever (One of the CoVID naturally immune control group)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The millionaires and billionaires need to sell their coastal real estate now.

Beat the rush!


30 posted on 11/01/2021 7:44:54 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

True or False - “Solving an existential crisis requires special taxation of carbon and a regulated brokered exchange for carbon credits, creating a new class of ultra-wealthy globalists.”

Fact: if human activity were causing such a crisis, the first step would be to limit population growth on the planet and cease a great deal of economic activity. The solution wouldn’t be to shift more money to the masses to an elite class of connected wealthy corporatists.


31 posted on 11/01/2021 7:45:17 AM PDT by Codeflier (Please stop calling these violent totalitarian collectivist Democrats, liberals. )
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

When you listen to liars, expect a blizzard of lies.

You are better off listening to North Korean media.


32 posted on 11/01/2021 7:45:55 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Codeflier

should be “shift more money from the masses to an elite...”


33 posted on 11/01/2021 7:47:54 AM PDT by Codeflier (Please stop calling these violent totalitarian collectivist Democrats, liberals. )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Quite clearly the case of building a straw man argument only to tear it down.

The questions being asked are wrong. Of course the Sun warms the planet but why are variations in its activity not part of climate models?

The issue is that we’re all supposed to be dead already - per the countless claims over the decades. Nobody can claim to know the ‘perfect temperature’ and what the temperature would be doing if we weren’t here.

The problem I have is that every ‘solution’ to climate change fearmongering are communist/socialist policies. If you want me to live in a world with a lower standard of living, which is what we’re talking about if we don’t have cheap, sustainable, and abundant energy, then you’d better present a case that is so indisputable that it can be scientifically PROVEN. Which they can’t.

I get the argument “what if you’re wrong? If we’re wrong then there’s no harm. If you’re wrong the earth dies.”. Ok, so unless you want mass starvation and an existence in misery then why is nuclear not an option? Even if temporary? We know why - because it’s just another ‘emergency’ excuse to impose government control over our lives, just like COVID.

On the one hand we have climate tyranny on the other it is medical tyranny. Both are examples of the government trying to extend their power into peoples lives violating their inalienable rights. COVID has provided the perfect excuse for the government to declare that they can decide the Constitution can be suspended per THEIR DECISION, TO THE DEGREE THEY DECIDE, AND OPEN ENDED WITH NO DECLARATION OF WHEN IT ENDS. It could have been ANY new virus, no matter how bad or not. What metrics decide how ‘severe’ something is before the government assumes such authority? What thresholds must be crossed of such metrics to trigger their authority? There are none, it is just arbitrary at their discretion - at least that is the assertion. Except WE THE PEOPLE never gave that power to them.

Therefore, the answer can only be that they NEVER has such authority - it is for the people to decide. If COVID were truly an airborne Ebola, where masses of people were dropping dead in the street, we wouldn’t need government to be enacting ‘emergency powers’ to change our behavior.

Consensus isn’t science either. This article is nothing more than a ‘shame you hit piece’ because people don’t believe it all - red meat for arrogant know-it-alls that can prove nothing. It is to reinforce that notion that if you’re not buying what they’re selling the only reason can be that you’re ignorant - not because we believe there may be alternate agendas we won’t accept.


34 posted on 11/01/2021 7:48:20 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This is the exact type of fraud our kids are being catechized with in government schools. It inevitably leads to feelings of “If we don’t vote Democrat, we are all going to DIE!!!”


35 posted on 11/01/2021 7:48:46 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“The IPCC report was produced by the unanimous agreement of every country signed up to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change. That’s a lot of countries [197, to be precise].”

Stupid “logic”

During the 15th century in Europe, The majority of people believed the world was flat, They were all wrong.


36 posted on 11/01/2021 7:56:46 AM PDT by Signalman
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37 posted on 11/01/2021 8:00:41 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: cgbg

That’s why I don’t watch TV news, American or North Korean.


38 posted on 11/01/2021 8:10:40 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: labordog

Our local weather person loves to tell her audience the world’s city ‘with the highest temperature on record’...

But she NEVER utters the breathless drama-speak naming the ‘coldest city temperature since we’ve been keeping records’...ever.

I wonder if she knows how silly she looks - or what a tool she is... or how we all know she’s got to be a silly bimbo democrat...


39 posted on 11/01/2021 8:19:08 AM PDT by GOPJ (If liberty means anything ...it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. Orwell)
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To: DuncanWaring
Every time the Warmists come out with another lie "Worst ever!" he(Tony Heller) comes up with hard rebuttals, frequently with actual newspaper clippings documenting that 50 or 100 or 150 years ago was far worse.

Yes he does. You could just read THE BOOK OF ECCLESIASTES in the Bible to gain some perspective.

40 posted on 11/01/2021 8:25:13 AM PDT by mc5cents
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