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Democrats Unveil Billionaires' Tax as Biden Plan Takes Shape
Newsmax ^ | 10/27/2021 | unknown

Posted on 10/27/2021 5:42:24 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants

Home | Politics Tags: Joe Biden | congress | budget | billionaire tax | biden Democrats Unveil Billionaires' Tax as Biden Plan Takes Shape ron wyden speaks to press Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., speaks to reporters about a corporate minimum tax plan at the U.S. Capitol Oct. 26, 2021, in Washington, D.C. (Drew Angerer/Getty Images)

Wednesday, 27 October 2021 07:58 AM

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Pushing past skeptics, Senate Democrats on Wednesday unveiled a new billionaires’ tax proposal, an entirely new entry in the tax code designed to help pay for President Joe Biden’s sweeping domestic policy package and edge his party closer to an overall agreement.

The proposed tax would hit the gains of those with more than $1 billion in assets or incomes of more than $100 million a year, and it could begin to shore up the big social services and climate change plan Biden is racing to finish before departing this week for global summits.

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It would require those with assets of more than $1 billion, or three consecutive years of income of $100 million, to pay taxes on the gains of stocks and other tradeable assets, rather than waiting until holdings are sold.

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Manchin’s resistance may scuttle one other tax idea — a plan to give the IRS more resources to go after tax scofflaws.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: democrats; taxes; theft; unrealizedgains
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To: Blood of Tyrants
First they came for the Billionaires...
Then the 100-millionaires.
Then the 10-millionaires.
Then the millionaires.
That's us, because with inflation that will be half the productive population very soon.
Don't think you'll be safe then just because you're safe now.

21 posted on 10/27/2021 6:10:26 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

One Billion or 300 Million Taxed the same ???


22 posted on 10/27/2021 6:12:04 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Democrats Unveil Billionaires’ Tax as Biden Plan Takes Shape


Mark to Market coming to a retirement account near you. Wherein every time your holdings goes up, you are taxed on the amount of gain, whether you take the gain or not. Social Security COLA is a realized gain. You stock going up a point, or a reinvested dividend are unrealized gains to be taxed ; if you sell it, you are taxed again.


23 posted on 10/27/2021 6:12:10 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: BBQToadRibs2

You can have gains this month and losses next month.


Its a daily accumulative tax, I’ve read somewhere. Losses are your problem.

Generally makes the stock market or any other investment a losers bet.


24 posted on 10/27/2021 6:15:10 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

If you own a house and have a 401k/IRA, you have unrealized capital gains. So, let’s say you bought your first home for $80,000 in 1990 and it’s worth $400,000 today. EVEN IF YOU DON’T SELL IT, THE DEMOCRATS WANT YOU TO PAY CAPITAL GAINS ON THE $320,000 YOU THEORETICALLY GAINED.


25 posted on 10/27/2021 6:15:55 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (When elections fail, we will either live under tyranny or rebel and throw it off.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

They never quit. I keep expecting them to reintroduce something like Clinton’s plan to tax imputed income.


26 posted on 10/27/2021 6:20:01 AM PDT by ken in texas
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Better for the rich to keep their wealth in crypto. Then they can move anywhere on Earth they like and take it with them.


27 posted on 10/27/2021 6:24:26 AM PDT by montag813
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To: day10

About makes as much sense taxing a junk yard owner on the value of the of his 5,000 rusted and wrecked cars and trucks on the value when they were brand new.


28 posted on 10/27/2021 6:25:44 AM PDT by midwest_hiker
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Question: Can the taxpayers covered by this proposal claim unrealized losses.


29 posted on 10/27/2021 6:29:12 AM PDT by monocle
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To: monocle

LOL! You’re kidding, right?


30 posted on 10/27/2021 6:33:20 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (When elections fail, we will either live under tyranny or rebel and throw it off.)
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To: Nathan _in_Arkansas
20? Probably within five. NEVER let them get a foot in the door. This will be the final nail in the coffin of what was the best system for upward mobility. Rather than have people aspire to move up, the new aspiration is to have people move down to your level by taking what they acquired.
31 posted on 10/27/2021 6:34:07 AM PDT by Mouton (The enemy of the people is the media )
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Questions. I have questions.
1. How will these un realized gains be valued?

2. If they are taxed now will there still be a capital gains tax when they are sold?.

3. What if someone pays taxes on unrealized gains no but the investment actually sells at a loss. Does the investor get a tax credit?


32 posted on 10/27/2021 6:35:32 AM PDT by Captain Compassion (I'm just sayin')
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I’ll let others here DEFEND these billionaire animals - personally, I’d like to see ALL their wealth seized.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4007211/posts


33 posted on 10/27/2021 6:56:09 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“.. pay taxes on the gains of stocks and other tradeable assets, rather than waiting until holdings are sold.”

And of course tax them again when sold.


34 posted on 10/27/2021 7:51:31 AM PDT by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking. )
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To: Blood of Tyrants
If a tax on unrealized gains fails, there is another avenue that has precedent in existing law: require that people over the threshold have to sell 3 percent of their portfolio each year, and take the gains/losses at that time. The proceeds of the forced sale can be put back in the market without restriction.

(The precedent? The required distributions from IRA and 401(k) instruments. I found out you can put the money right back into a retirement vehicle, and it meets the letter of the law.)

The victim gets to choose which parts.

That's OK for people who trade in financial markets. It's not OK for people who trade in collectibles.

Hey, I didn't say this was a GOOD idea, just an alternative to the present BAD idea -- which is just as bad, frankly.

35 posted on 10/27/2021 7:56:03 AM PDT by asinclair (Political hot air is a renewable energy resource)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

This “Plan” would require access to all balance sheets & would require Certified APPRAISERS to accomplish such a tax.


36 posted on 10/27/2021 8:03:35 AM PDT by ridesthemiles ( )
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

WHEN your real estate values take a dive-—where is your REFUND????


37 posted on 10/27/2021 8:04:33 AM PDT by ridesthemiles ( )
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To: Blood of Tyrants

KEEP IN MIND-—THEIR APPRAISERS are doing the valuations.


38 posted on 10/27/2021 8:07:25 AM PDT by ridesthemiles ( )
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39 posted on 10/27/2021 8:31:39 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Blood of Tyrants

In today’s dollars (about 20x) 8000 would be 160k and 500k would be 10 millions.


40 posted on 10/27/2021 9:57:17 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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