Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

'I Want The Sentence To Hurt': Judge Imposes Largest Fine Yet on Capitol Riot Couple
Newsweak ^ | Oct 22, 2021 | Alexandra Hutzler

Posted on 10/22/2021 8:37:17 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-66 next last
To: PghBaldy
He didn’t pardon any of these people, is he helping to pay the legal defense of any of them?

All of them were arrested after Trump left office. And no, he isn't paying any of their legal bills. Why should he?

41 posted on 10/23/2021 4:55:17 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: tsomer
No lawyer, but the judges remarks suggest a strong bias, so maybe they can appeal.

They pled guilty. That makes appeal pretty difficult since they have to prove their plea was not made voluntarily, knowingly, or intelligently.

42 posted on 10/23/2021 5:01:15 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: DoodleDawg

Fair point!


43 posted on 10/23/2021 5:13:10 AM PDT by null and void (LGBTQ = Let's Get Biden To Quit, FORK/N'A = First Uttery Cancel Kamala/Nancy Axed)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: where's_the_Outrage?
I want the sentence to hurt

We need to put some serious hurt on the communists in DC.

44 posted on 10/23/2021 5:13:58 AM PDT by eastexsteve
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: knarf

You say that like it’s a bad thing...


45 posted on 10/23/2021 5:14:33 AM PDT by null and void (LGBTQ = Let's Get Biden To Quit, FORK/N'A = First Uttery Cancel Kamala/Nancy Axed)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: PghBaldy

Who would want to donate to Trump? He abandons the little people who put him in the White House. He didn’t pardon any of these people, is he helping to pay the legal defense of any of them?
................
He was exiting the white house in a few days, and the people charged had not even been rounded up in January. How could he pardon them?

And pay for their legal costs? Why? He didn’t tell them to go inside the building.


46 posted on 10/23/2021 5:15:25 AM PDT by lurk ( )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: McGruff

I am disgusted by the actions of this man.

Since when is administration of justice equivalent to “I want this sentence to hurt.”?


47 posted on 10/23/2021 5:24:23 AM PDT by sauropod
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: where's_the_Outrage?

Trump should’ve pardoned all of these people before he left office.


48 posted on 10/23/2021 5:27:24 AM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: antceecee

What is “TDSB”?


49 posted on 10/23/2021 5:27:27 AM PDT by sauropod
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: where's_the_Outrage?

FIve freakin’ charges for a single incident? I know prosecutors can do it. But...what puepuse does it serve in this instance other than to allow the court to be overly punitive in sentencing...as we see here.
THere has to be a review of this entire affair, and not hte hack partisan crap from the Congress.
Video clips of the the Capitol Police holding open the doors, and directing folks in should shut sown this whole garbage persecution.


50 posted on 10/23/2021 5:28:12 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. The Dhimmicraps are ALL Traitors. All of them.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DoodleDawg
That makes appeal pretty difficult since they have to prove their plea was not made voluntarily, knowingly, or intelligently.

Did they make a plea "bargain", a guilty plea for reduced sentence, and then got the maximum?

And while we're at it, isn't a plea deal ALWAYS made under duress?

I seem to recall a case recently where they utterly broke a man financially, and he wouldn't cave. Then they threatened to do the same to his son with (like in his case) no real underlying crime.

The press crowed for days about how he plead guilty and what a great victory it was for the regime!

51 posted on 10/23/2021 5:30:47 AM PDT by null and void (LGBTQ = Let's Get Biden To Quit, FORK/N'A = First Uttery Cancel Kamala/Nancy Axed)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: where's_the_Outrage?

The judge is a tyrannical tool that must be eliminated as a domestic enemy that many are sworn to protect us from


52 posted on 10/23/2021 5:32:19 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Like BLM, Joe Biden is a Domestic Enemy )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: j.havenfarm
Yeah, I slept through my torts class my first year of law school.

Torts sounds like a snack.
53 posted on 10/23/2021 5:32:37 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: PghBaldy
Who would want to donate to Trump? He abandons the little people who put him in the White House. He didn’t pardon any of these people, is he helping to pay the legal defense of any of them?

Well, Trump has just now issued a statement that the insurrection happened on November 3, 2020, although most of the flipped or fraudulent votes were added in the wee hours of the morning on Nov. 4th. The problem is that Trump, knowing this, didn't invoke the Insurrection Act and call forth the militia. Without that legal protection, these protestors, were open to exactly this outcome. Yes, Trump could have issued a blanket pardon, but he declined to do so probably in fear of the second impeachment. History will judge him for this, but probably not too harshly.
54 posted on 10/23/2021 5:39:53 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Gene Eric

I don’t think he was a FISA judge at that time...when I saw that graphic, I had to look, it was a while back...as far as I could tell. But that said a lot for me that he was one of them at one point, because I don’t trust any single one of them at all.

And Wikipedia, as Leftist as it is worded his entry disgustingly to make him sound like some kind of friend of citizens against government intrusion, but when you read the cases he has been involved in, it is clear he is Deep State, and an affirmative action hire it is certain.

From Wikipedia:
“During his FISC tenure, Judge Walton was “exceptionally concerned” about the NSA’s “flagrant violation” of the court orders regarding privacy, and he accused the agency of “misinterpretations.” In another paragraph , it had this obvious ball-washing description: “The Washington Post reported, “fellow judges and lawyers who appear before him say Walton’s decisions do not appear to be guided by politics but by a tough-on-crime mentality.” It also said this: “Walton is known by local defense attorneys as a “long ball hitter” – a judge willing to impose long sentences in order to deter future crimes.”

And these are some of the cases:

United States v. Libby
Walton also presided over the trial of Vice President Dick Cheney’s former chief of staff, Scooter Libby. I don’t know anything about whether Scooter Libby is good or bad, but this was a travesty.

Whitewater
Main article: Whitewater controversy
On October 4, 2016, Walton rejected the release of Hillary Clinton criminal indictment drafts prosecutors prepared, but never issued, during the Whitewater investigation in the 1990s. He ruled that Clinton had a “substantial privacy interest” when he rejected a Judicial Watch lawsuit under FOIA. Deep State scumbag.

Mohammon v. Bush[edit]
Walton presided over Mohammon v. Bush, a set of amalgamated habeas corpus petitions, submitted on behalf of Guantanamo captives. On August 21, 2009, Reuters reported that Walton issued a ruling about “hearsay evidence” that applied to all the Guantanamo detainees’ habeas petitions before him. Much of the evidence the Department of Justice is presenting in the habeas petitions is hearsay evidence. Ruling for the murderous human stains being held there.

Mueller Report redactions
On Monday, August 5, 2019, Politico reported that while hearing arguments regarding lawsuits by BuzzFeed and the nonprofit Electronic Privacy Information Center, as they seek to reveal the approximately 1,000 redacted items in the publicly-released edition of former special counsel Robert Mueller’s report, Walton indicated that he would review the redactions before determining whether to grant making them public. On Thursday, March 5, 2020, Walton described Attorney General William Barr’s public statements about the Mueller report as “misleading”, and said that Barr’s representations regarding DoJ redactions from the report could not be credited. nOn October 6, 2020 President Trump, referencing the Mueller report, tweeted “I have fully authorized the total Declassification of any & all documents pertaining to the single greatest political CRIME in American History, the Russia Hoax”. In response to the President’s statement, BuzzFeed requested an unredacted versions of the report; however, BuzzFeed’s request for an unredacted report was denied by the Department of Justice (DOJ). The DOJ told Walton, “…the President’s statements on Twitter were not self-executing declassification orders...” To clear up the position of the President, Walton ordered a continuance until October 21, 2020 so, “I can get something from White House counsel saying that they conferred with the president, and the president, in fact, did not intend to declassify the information…in other words...kicking the can down the road so voters won’t see it. Deep State POS.


55 posted on 10/23/2021 5:45:49 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: null and void
Did they make a plea "bargain", a guilty plea for reduced sentence, and then got the maximum?
And while we're at it, isn't a plea deal ALWAYS made under duress?


The way the modern court system works, the accused hires a lawyer who may promise many things to his/her client, but in reality is actively working on a plea deal from the start. Trials, especially jury trials, take much time, and plea deals enable the prosecutor to get more fines, and the defense attorney to handle more cases. The judge will actually get mad if a case goes to trial. If every criminal defendant refused to plea bargain, the criminal justice system would grind to a half. So all too frequently, the defense attorney will actually undermine his/her client's rights by pushing for a plea deal, the client doesn't want, or doesn't serve his/her interests. All that matters is that the defense lawyer got paid, and the prosecution got a guilty plea. Without reforming the criminal justice system this will not change. The system benefits the career criminal, who avoids conviction for the most serious crimes committed, but injures the innocent law abiding citizen, who just wants to end the ordeal, caught up in the toils of the system.
56 posted on 10/23/2021 5:51:29 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: null and void
Did they make a plea "bargain", a guilty plea for reduced sentence, and then got the maximum?

The prosecution wanted 30 days in jail and they got probation, public service, and a fine. Sounds like what he imposed was less than the maximum under the plea agreement.

And while we're at it, isn't a plea deal ALWAYS made under duress?

Unless you know you're guilty.

57 posted on 10/23/2021 5:52:45 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: null and void

on the contrary


58 posted on 10/23/2021 5:56:23 AM PDT by knarf
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: DoodleDawg
Unless you know you're guilty.

There is that.

Or you know that the entire full might of the federal government will be used with the full deliberate and malicious intent to make a beaten-to-a-bloody-pulp example of you. Exculpatory evidence will be suppressed, witnesses intimidated, jurors suborned. Good luck.

You are destined to be one of the eggs in the omelet they so desperately crave.

Maybe you can get away with only being soft boiled in exchange for giving them a poster boy instead of a full Emmanuel Goldstein?

Room 101 awaits your decision...

59 posted on 10/23/2021 6:02:47 AM PDT by null and void (LGBTQ = Let's Get Biden To Quit, FORK/N'A = First Uttery Cancel Kamala/Nancy Axed)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | View Replies]

To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yet the black kid that shot those kids in school is walking the streets right now.


60 posted on 10/23/2021 7:11:22 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-66 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson