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Why Columbus Day Is Worth Defending and Celebrating
Townhall.com ^ | October 11, 2021 | Scott Powell

Posted on 10/11/2021 4:13:31 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: rlmorel

Interesting point in history that is forgotten is that the Arawaks were the main food source for the Caribe Indians, form which the word “Caribbean” came.

The Spanish pronounced their name as Canabs and coined the word “cannibal”.


21 posted on 10/11/2021 7:21:00 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (OUT OF FB JAIL! and back on the attack. For how long? )
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To: ExTxMarine

My short list of links to show how lovey dovey the Indians were toward each other before the white Man arrived.

https://frontierpartisans.com/3942/crow-creek-massacre/

https://www.academia.edu/7907221/Mass_Grave_at_Crow_Creek_in_South_Dakota_Reveals_How_Indians_Massacred_Indians_in_14th_Century_Attack
http://www.dickshovel.com/scalp.html
http://westerndigs.org/skeletons-in-utah-cave-are-victims-of-prehistoric-war-study-says/
https://mcclungmuseum.utk.edu/1991/12/01/scalping-victim/
http://westerndigs.org/infamous-mass-grave-of-young-women-in-ancient-city-of-cahokia-also-holds-men-study/

https://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/trail_dust/trail-dust-massacre-at-awatovi-is-little-known-act-of-genocide/article_7231e60b-9897-50bc-992d-8d5344685d4c.html

http://westerndigs.org/mass-grave-of-prodigal-sons-in-california-poses-prehistoric-mystery/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/01/tower-human-skulls-mexico-city-aztec-sacrifices?CMP=share_btn_tw&utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

https://www.archaeology.org/news/2269-140630-colorado-torture-evidence
https://anthropology.net/2007/07/16/parallel-life-and-death-1275-ad-massacred-gallina-and-vanishing-anasazi/
https://ancientstandard.com/2007/07/17/csi-new-mexico-%e2%80%93-possible-genocide-ca-1275-ad/

http://westerndigs.org/mass-grave-found-in-california-reveals-prehistoric-violence-against-outsiders/

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/archeologists-find-evidence-torture-1200-year-old-massacre-180951922/

https://archive.archaeology.org/9709/newsbriefs/anasazi.html

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2018/04/mass-child-human-animal-sacrifice-peru-chimu-science/

https://anthropology.net/2007/07/16/parallel-life-and-death-1275-ad-massacred-gallina-and-vanishing-anasazi/
https://www.ohio.edu/orgs/glass/vol/1/14.htm


22 posted on 10/11/2021 7:24:32 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (OUT OF FB JAIL! and back on the attack. For how long? )
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23 posted on 10/11/2021 7:27:46 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: DoodleDawg

Contrary to the commonly held view that people in Columbus’s time that the earth was flat, it was accepted by experts that it was indeed a sphere.

Regiomontanus’s work was used to teach both Copenernicus’ teacher, and Copernicus himself since Regiomontanus had arrived at the concept that the Sun was the center of our solar system, not the earth, and all of his work and accomplishments regarding the appearance and locations of heavenly bodies such as comets and planets followed from that concept of the planets rotating around the sun, not the earth.

What I don’t know is if Columbus derived the eclipse from the data provided by Regiomontanus (since he had Regiomontanus’book with him, apparently it was similar to the modern US Navy (probably at least up to the 1970’s) where you wouldn’t go to sea unless you had a copy of Bowdich (The American Practical Navigator) with you.) or if it were in the book itself.

Columbus was a very smart guy. He doesn’t get any credit from many of his detractors for that. They think he simply stood on the shoulders of others...which he did. But he enabled his own path.

One of the best and most enjoyable books on the subject is “Admiral of the Ocean Sea: A Life of Christopher Columbus” by Samuel Eliot Morison. Great and enjoyable book, along with his “The European Discovery of America” volumes 1 and 2, and “The Great Explorers”.

Besides being incredibly informative, he writes in an engaging manner, and has sailed the waters of North America and the Caribbean extensively and often compares what he saw to what those early explorers saw.

Very cool stuff!


24 posted on 10/11/2021 7:38:28 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

In the post above I mentioned some books by Samuel Eliot Morison who I greatly admire, and in his book “The Great Explorers”, he talks about Giovanni da Verrazzano (the Italian explorer after whom the Verrazzano bridge in NY was named) who went ashore alone in Guadeloupe, was seized by Caribs, killed, cut up, and eaten in full view of his crew on the ship who could only watch in utter helplessness.

It is no wonder Columbus was greeted with open arms by the indigenous people in the Caribbean-they were preyed on by the Caribs, whose fierce and bloodthirsty reputation cannot even be conceived of by people today. The natives being preyed on likely viewed Columbus and his great big ships as a bulwark.

I think there is even an account of the captain of one of Columbus’ ships taking a beautiful Caribe woman as a captive to be used for sex (hard to feel sympathy for her, since her people took people to eat them and not to have sex with them) and she apparently fought back with such gusto until, she submitted and enthusiastically engaged in sex to the point it “made the whores back home look like nuns” or something like that.


25 posted on 10/11/2021 7:47:32 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: Rlsau1
Written like a fool brainwashed for 17 years in public schools and Marxist universities.

Have you or do you have a desire to statues of Columbus and Robert E. Lee down in the nearest city where one exists?

26 posted on 10/11/2021 8:51:54 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: DoodleDawg

Lunar eclipses are visible anywhere on the night side of earth. Unlike solar eclipses, which can only be seen over a small area.


27 posted on 10/11/2021 9:09:36 AM PDT by Deo volente ("When we see the image of a baby in the womb, we glimpse the majesty of God's creation." Pres. Trump)
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To: HighSierra5

The Real Reason is that Columbus brought Catholicism to the new world.


28 posted on 10/11/2021 10:34:46 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: rlmorel

I love this historic event!


29 posted on 10/11/2021 11:18:38 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I admire Christopher Columbus, not because he was Italian, Genovese, or whatever, I admire him because he had stones the size of beachballs to do what he did.

As you said, it was historic. Sure, someone else would have eventually done it, just like someone would have flown across the Atlantic if Charles Lindbergh hadn’t done it, or walked on the moon if Neil Armstrong hadn’t.

But they didn’t.

The Norsemen people keep referring to didn’t make it back to their homeland and set up a relay of people who kept coming over. If they did, that would be called a discovery. But it wasn’t. Shipwrecked sailors have found undiscovered islands, but nobody gives a hoot who they are, if it wasn’t memorialized and followed up on.

Nothing against the Scandinavians who clamor for Leif Erikson to get credit, but it sounds a lot like me to the countries that over the years wanted to re-write history and claim Columbus for their own, saying he was really Spanish, or Portuguese, or whatever.

Columbus was the one who did it. Columbus made it here, and he was trying to make it here, as a part of his journey to the Orient, not blown off course and shipwrecked. He not only came here, he made it back and told everyone about it.

Then to show it was no fluke, came back two more times, and the third trip broke his health.

First European to see the New World. He was also the first European to see a cyclonic ocean storm like a hurricane and described the precursors and sea states for future generations.

He was a real man.


30 posted on 10/11/2021 12:54:35 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: rlmorel

Agreed! And his faith seemed legitimate. People call him greedy, but the God of the Bible advocated for Private ownership, industriousness, and personal property.


31 posted on 10/11/2021 1:19:08 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Heh, I found it interesting that the only curse he ever uttered was “May God take you.”


32 posted on 10/11/2021 1:56:28 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: rlmorel
That in turn enabled the founding of a new nation, unlike any other—one based on the revolutionary idea that people’s life, liberty and pursuit of happiness were inviolable because those rights came from God and not man or the state.

I've read something like this: somewhere...

33 posted on 10/12/2021 4:48:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DoodleDawg
So how did Regiomontanus know that there would be a lunar eclipse on that day ant time, over a region of the world he had no idea existed and with no concept of time zones?

Uh, the moon eclipse lasts around an hour and a half and can be seen from ANYWHERE on the side of the earth that faces the moon, at the same time.

A solar eclipse is a very small spot on the surface of the earth; seen only locally.


I saw my first (probably only) total solar eclipse just a few years ago in central Kentucky.

When I got back to central Indiana, folks asked what was the big deal? We didn't see much at all.

34 posted on 10/12/2021 5:00:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: rlmorel
Columbus was a very smart guy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egg_of_Columbus

35 posted on 10/12/2021 5:02:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Rlsau1; wita
...what about the people that were already here? What is their origin?

Well, the Mormons claim that they have a LOT of JEWISH dna in their bodies and...

36 posted on 10/12/2021 5:05:10 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Deo volente

I shudda read ahead.


37 posted on 10/12/2021 5:06:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_eclipse_of_August_21,_2017
 
 
 
 
 
click it!

TWICE...

 
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/Map_of_the_solar_eclipse_2017_USA_OSM_Zoom1.png
 
 

38 posted on 10/12/2021 5:16:27 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetics_and_the_Book_of_Mormon


39 posted on 10/12/2021 5:26:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

No, I didn’t follow that thread...I did laugh...I went back and took a look, and I am familiar with that study which I have been interested in previously...it is illuminating.

Medicine is different, though. The point I was making is medicine is highly regimented and regulated for a reason, to prevent harm. It has to be. If something goes wrong and a patient is harmed, one of the very first questions is: Did you follow the protocols and procedures?

If the answer is no...you better have a really, really good reason for why you deviated.

When I was in the US Navy, I worked for the better part of four years on the flight deck of an aircraft carrier.

As a young 18 year old guy, I remember vividly one of my superiors, a Chief Petty Officer in charge of our “Line Division”, which is where all the new guys go and become “Plane Captains” which is like being the gas station attendant for the plane...you strap the pilot in, clean the windshield, make sure the oil and hydraulic levels are correct, that kind of thing. It gets you oriented to whole plane before you move onto your specialty, which in my case, was the jet engine.

Anyway, this Chief had all of us sitting there on our first day out at sea after leaving Norfolk, and he said something like this:

“I need to say something which I want you to listen carefully to and commit to. We are going to train you how to do tasks in very specific ways. Some of these jobs are going to seem rather useless, and some will be inefficient. All of you are smart enough, and there will come a time where you will look at a job we have trained you to do, and think you have a better, easier, more efficient way of doing it. DO NOT DO IT. Do not deviate from your training. The flight deck of an aircraft carrier is an extremely dangerous place. Those rules you have been taught, those tasks you have been trained in were learned in blood. People have been injured and died, and many of those tasks that you see as inefficient are set up that way because something bad happened, a plane crashed, or someone was injured or killed. Stick to your training, and stick to it exactly as you were taught.”

The point is, in medicine, it is the same. Almost every process and procedure has been put in place to prevent a bad outcome, or been put in place BECAUSE of a bad outcome. It isn’t just people blindly following orders. And this is ingrained at all levels of medicine, from top to bottom. Everything from the process to slide a patient from a bed to a gurney, to having your hands inside a patient stitching up their internal organs has techniques, processes, and procedures that must be followed, and like working on a flight deck, many of those were learned in blood. They hammer home the rigidity and inflexibility of these, because they do not want people freelancing, and it is burned in.

That is why I opined that in the medical community, it is possible these things might get kicked further and further up the chain. With respect to this particular aspect (Informed Consent) I assure you, NOBODY wants to perform ANY kind of procedure and end up being in violation of Informed Consent processes and procedures, because that is just asking for fines, disciplinary action, the whole nine yards.

The Left, in their Alinskyite clothing, all too willingly want to use our own rules against us. This is something I have no problem with using against their tyranny, but I don’t want to portray medical personnel as willing to kill people just to follow orders from above. I suggest we use their desire to follow orders from above to PREVENT them from causing us harm...:)


40 posted on 10/12/2021 5:47:02 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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