Posted on 09/08/2021 6:31:39 AM PDT by Cecily
Watch a livestream of the Lee statue in Richmond being removed from its pedestal on Monument Avenue.
The stream, provided by VPM, will begin at 8 a.m. on Wednesday, and for the first hour the stream "will also feature relevant photos and footage related to the removal of the monument," according to a news release from the state agencies overseeing the project.
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Indeed. We saw all this crap come to a Head last year, with the spoiled-brat brigade sanctioned by their political leaders defacing to destroying and bringing down ALL statues…
People back in Freddy Gray days 2015 didn’t think too much when these same scum took down some Confed statues and changed some names (like here in Baltimore….yes, Yankees, we have LOTS of Confederate honors here). They applauded, and celebrated, harrumphing as some statues were removed of “traitors”.
We told you the attack on the CSA is only the start. They should know, because leftists hate not only the CSA but the USA.
SO, HERE we are, destroying statues of all American heroes, because AMERICA is so evil.
‘Slavery was a dying institution at the inception of the War of Northern Aggression and would have died of natural causes.’
false; the institution was alive and thriving in the Confederacy, but several states were running up against depleting resources and opportunities...this is why the slave states expanding westward became such a contentious issue...
that they would have given up slavery without a fight is nonsense, especially not at the instigation of the federal states...in retrospect, both contending parties were guilty of one of the oldest shortcomings of human history, namely, crass exploitation of labor; but slavery is crasser than a permanent poverty stricken underclass that was the northern model...
Does this change History?? NO, just white washes it a little.
If I was 7’2” I could have played in the NBA. I’m not. And he didn’t win. So whats your point?
I’d rather not watch this travesty in action.
You asked if Lee had won, what is it exactly he would have accomplished?
I answered.
He would have been known as a “Great General”. Terrific. And what would the Confederate States of America had accomplished? And where would they be now? Are you arguing the world would be better off if they HAD won?
Then it doesn't make a lot of sense for the south to launch a rebellion to protect an institution that was on death's door. Perhaps it was because none of the southern leadership of the time thought it was a dying institution?
Not just great. Greatest.
Which is what I was said in my initial post.
What does Robert E Lee have to do with BLM?
Yep, if you read the rhetoric of the time, it’s clear they had no intention of ending slavery anytime soon. Even if slavery economically was going to run its’ course, I’m sure they also were thinking ahead to the consequences of having to deal with the freed slaves.
That’s the whole problem with slavery, it was a short-term economic gain, but it was going to create a burden that future generations were going to have to deal with, long after those who benefitted from slavery were long gone.
Conservatives still believe many of the things that Lee believed - the importance of one's home, the primacy of local government, over the rule of the central state. The rights of states over the central government. The behavior of a gentleman, particularly in war. Even his enemies understood Lee's cause, and recognized Lee as an honorable man. That attitude on both sides allowed a quick reunification of the country, and avoided Civil War 2, 3, or more, as most countries would experience.
Your thinking represents a very 20th century, totalitarian, total war concept. Unfortunately, that's where America's politics are today.
Stalin beat back the Germans and won World War II. So he gets the title of the Soviet Unions Greatest Leader. And how does history view him now?
Lee, historically, came off better by losing.
Maybe. Maybe the USA would’ve curtailed its tendency to go fascist with more and more spending and more and more taxation and regulation. Because they wouldn’t have as many agricultural resources to simply transfer to their mills.
Oh, it’s pretty clear that Grant knew Lee was the better general - he didn’t let that scare him from doing what he needed to do.
Grant’s own description of his first battle as Colonel of a regiment should be required reading for ANY military officer. His simple epiphany from that scrap guided him for the rest of the war.
If anyone hasn’t read Grant’s autobiography, they should. Wonderful piece of work.
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I can’t believe after last year you don’t see what this is and what you’re siding with so glibly insulting great men.
Lincoln thought so too. Lee was his first choice to lead the Union Army.
Probably not. You can still respect a man and still consider yourself a better general, especially if your record shows it. Grant, of one, respected Lee as a man and as a commander but he wasn't in awe of him. When his subordinates cautioned him about Lee early in the 1864 Overland Campaign, Grant's reply was, “Oh, I am heartily tired of hearing about what Lee is going to do. Some of you always seem to think he is suddenly going to turn a double somersault, and land in our rear and on both of our flanks at the same time. Go back to your command, and try to think what we are going to do ourselves, instead of what Lee is going to do.”
Not the words of a man who felt inferior to his opponent.
Here here.
Or is it, hear hear?
Idiots.
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