And then there is this my very nice local hospital.
Posted on 09/07/2021 6:39:41 PM PDT by entropy12
People who received the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine had “slightly higher” antibody levels than those who received the Pfizer, now formally called Comirnaty, shot, according to a new small study.
While both vaccines insert molecules called mRNA that teach our bodies how to produce coronavirus antibodies, the Moderna shot uses more than three times the amount of mRNA than the Pfizer vaccine. This, the University of Virginia School of Medicine researchers say, could explain their findings.
So, does that mean the Moderna vaccine offers better protection against COVID-19?
The study was published Sept. 2 in the journal JAMA.
“The thing that will be interesting is figuring out if measuring antibody levels ends up being a good marker of vaccine protection,” study co-author Dr. Jeffrey Wilson, an immunologist at the University of Virginia, said in a statement. “At the moment, we don’t know for sure.”
The team examined blood samples from 167 vaccinated university employees collected anywhere between one week to a month after their second doses; 79 received the Pfizer vaccine and 88 got the Moderna shot. Recipients were 42 years old, on average, and most (72%) were women.
Those who got the Moderna vaccine had more antibodies (about 69 micrograms per milliliter) in their blood than people who got the Pfizer shot (about 46 micrograms per milliliter) — regardless of age.
(Excerpt) Read more at yahoo.com ...
It might surprise you to know that people outside this site have been keeping up with the research since the start of the pandemic, sifting and digging to find the truth from reputable, purely scientific sources. Crazy, right? There are also medical professionals whose jobs include keeping current with medical journals elsewhere on the internet and IRL, believe it or not. (JoeSilverman7 on Twitter is just one of the many. He’s a conservative, no BS pro-Trump physician. Highly recommend his page).
Weirdly, my mention of med professionals in my family provoked defensive reactions. Even weirder, you placed quotes around “doctor” as if you think I’m—making it up, I guess? Not at all a typical conservative response.
As for flaming into oblivion & owning, I have a Phd in those skills on Twitter. Sending leftists to the trash is recreational for me. Intimidation doesn’t work with me, if you get me. I want to tell you to save the condescension, but then I kept reading, lol.
Basically you suggest that I should keep my mouth closed for a few weeks and learn respectfully at the knees of posters here because, I quote, “you may have the mistaken impression you’re up to speed compared to this thread.” That’s when I laughed out loud and woke up my husband.
Whiskers, I am a 41 year old married woman, not some neophyte here to be re-educated. I came here with every intention of being pleasant and cordial, to share discussion with fellow Trump supporters. It’s not that deep. But it seems groupthink is the deal here & disagreement of any kind among conservatives isn’t tolerated. No thanks.
I have to admit, this is a strange place. Not at all what I expected. I get a dark feeling, spiritually. The steaming hostility, the suspicion, the death wishes from one poster to another. I already have a nutcase stalker in my DMs calling me Martha and demanding a public debate, to save his wounded ego, I guess. When I finally told him to F off he screamed “you little bitch!” Lol, crazy.
Good luck bringing in new members with disposable income. I’m sure I might have dropped some.
Like I said, you haven't been on the thread for a long time...we've had regular invasions of either Big Pharma acolytes, or Peter Hotez disciples, attempting the 'proof by credentialed intimidation' tactics.
It gets old after awhile; particularly as a number of them make elementary mistakes over and over like confusing the spike protein with the mRNA.
Or one of them (now banned) telling us in so many words that the injections are vaccines, and we'd never find any reputable source calling them experimental gene therapy..only to be confronted with Moderna's 2020 SEC filing from July 2020 contradicting them.
Stuff like that.
By a humorous pun, think of some of the public responses to your posts as "Troll-Dependent Enhancement" as it were.
As for flaming into oblivion & owning, I have a Phd in those skills on Twitter. Sending leftists to the trash is recreational for me. Intimidation doesn’t work with me, if you get me. I want to tell you to save the condescension, but then I kept reading, lol.
Let's trade. You give up the nascent hero complex and we'll spare the condescension. I don't do Twitter, btw; but I'm glad you're out there fighting the censorship from the left. Those sort of skills will fit in well here. Maybe you could tag-team with Bagster.
Basically you suggest that I should keep my mouth closed for a few weeks and learn respectfully at the knees of posters here because, I quote, “you may have the mistaken impression you’re up to speed compared to this thread.” That’s when I laughed out loud and woke up my husband.
Not exactly; but a week or two surfing the thread will enable you to gauge more accurately, how up to speed the posters here are, and on which aspects of the whole subject. That us, since you mention "groupthink is the deal here & disagreement of any kind among conservatives isn't tolerated. No thanks" --
it is worth replying in response that starting out with an appeal to authority and credentialism, is far more seen among the "I F'ing Love Science" crowd, than among actual scientists, OR conservatives; and that it isn't the mere fact of disagreement, but how well you can argue, document, and substantiate said disagreements, that matters on this thread.
Most other conservative sources seem to take a bigoted, inaccurate view of the intellectual attainments / capabilities of Trump supporters.
And -- have you tried reporting the user who privately emailed you Death Wishes? That is frowned up on at FR, if it even really happened. I've been on FR for 17 years now and flamed people to a well-done crisp, and haven't received a single such email yet.
...your last remarks sounds reminiscent of banned troll or retread, btw. The attempted condescension over spare income is duly noted; and I don't recall ever seeing a true n00b mention such a thing before.
I said that members here were wishing death on each other. I handled the guy in my DMs, he had a meltdown and it’s done.
Well, I suppose we’re even as far as condescension goes, and I was sincere. A lot of the posters here seem older—not an insult, btw, as I love & respect older people, and I enjoy their company. I’d think you’d want new members, but I could be wrong. 🤷🏻♀️
But your last part reinforces my point. It’s 2021, it’s too easy to log into any social media platform and jump into an ongoing discussion. I’m not interested in having suspicion leveled my way every time I say something. Ain’t nobody got time for that. So, you’re free to think what you want, I guess?
...t’sk t’sk.
Why waste everyone’s time and effort either overestimating, or underestimating, the level of knowledge that this thread presupposes?
Just read a little first, you might be pleasantly surprised.
...or unpleasantly, depending on what presuppositions you bring to the table. :-D
You’ll use panic headlines to support your opinions about the shot while dismissing them about the virus. I think our problem is that we allowed the left to dictate our response, and our views. They went nuts with the mask fetish, claiming Covid was the bubonic plague, so we went too far in the opposite direction and decided it’s just the flu. Neither are true, but nuanced thinking is as dead as a possum.
In the end, it’s not that deep. We have an unpredictable virus that can decide to bust down the statistics in any individual case and leave you dead, or with a damaged heart or lungs, or amputations. And we have a vaccine which isn’t perfect, but is very good. It lowers any viral load you might pick up, and it greatly reduces your chances of hospitalization or death. I consider that a blessing and I’m thankful to God for making it happen. I’ll also note that Trump took the shot and is a pro-vax. That’s because he’s a sensible man, but you can find certain people on social media trying to devise super-secret conspiracies as to why it’s all an act, he’s not really pro-vax, anx it’s all exhausting and absurd.
I take no zink, no vitamin D, no ivermectin, am 81 year old, and daily exercise is what is protecting me from covid. And by the way I will be on a cruise ship next week getting pampered while you will be cooking and cleaning at home.
And then there is this my very nice local hospital.
Ooooooo! Wow! Golly! Honestly, I have to say it sounds extremely lame, gay, and boring, but I suppose if your some shakes cottonhead (or chromedome) shuffling around with a walker, then by Jing, shuffleboard is just the thing!
You go Gramps!
LOL now-a-days majority of passengers are under 50 years age.
I am guessing you have never been on a cruise ship > 135,000 tons (which is bigger than aircraft carrier ships).
Sounds gay. But you be you.
If you use the word "debunked" you're obviously a liberal with an agenda.
Not to mention the loaded phrase "anitvax propaganda".
There's plenty of real information on these threads.
Apparently the jab trolls don't want it getting publicized.
The mRNA vaccines didn't WORK. They still don't: Swine Flu was pulled from the market after 3 deaths reported to VAERS according to the New York Times in 1976; but the current crop of mRNA jabs for COVID have seen what is it, 12,000 deaths reported to VAERS in the US, and around 15,000 or so to the European sister agency as of May.
And a Harvard-Pilgrim study back in 2009 showed that only around 1% of adverse events ever get reported to VAERS.
The other issue, is that of long-term effects. Read up on Vioxx (FDA-approved) and why it got pulled from the market. 180,000 heart attacks in 5 years, I think.
You cannot tell the rate of clots from Covid itself, since there exists no accurate clinical test for COVID infection. Kary Mullis, who got the Nobel Prize for inventing the PCR reaction, said it was never meant for diagnosis.
Secondly, the CDC has said they would not report adverse events except for hospitalization and death, associated with the jabs.
That means that blood clots that fall short of requiring hospitalization, won't show up in the numbers.
There was a Canadian MD who had given over 900 people the COVID jabs. He noticed his patients were then presenting with headaches or reduced exercise capacity -- e.g. a patient who walked 2 miles round trip to see him once a week, suddenly couldn't walk more than 1/4 mile.
So he started doing before-and-after d-dimer blood tests (indicative of, but no pathognomonic, for clotting--e.g. cancer will also elevate d-dimer).
He noted that 62% of the patients he did the d-dimer test on, had elevated levels after the jab).
You are right that Covid causes clots *in severe cases*.
The Lancet did a meta study showing that 21% of those hospitalized for the coof ended up with deep vein thrombosis.
But that's only the severe cases.
And, the clots are due to spike protein: numerous scientific papers agree on this, from in vitro studies on human blood mixed with spike protein, to the Salk institute injecting animals with covid virus where the genetic material had been removed, to other studies showing that the mere binding of the spike protein with the ACE2 receptor, results in the affected cell sending out a cascade of inflammatory, pro-clotting cytokines.
Now when you get exposed to COVID, the virus doesn't race for your blood; and you don't get trillions of spike molecules all at once. But you do with the jabs: the Pfizer jab puts about 11 trillion mRNA molecules into the body all at once; about 25% stay in the shoulder; and each mRNA molecule can induce the body to produce up to 2000 spike protein molecules.
There are no panic headlines about the jabs. But there sure were about the virus. Remember the videos of people being welded into their apartments in Wuhan, or falling over dead in mid-stride in the street?
Huh. It's been over a year and a half later and I haven't seen that in the US. In fact, 40% of the dead had *diabetes*. And the overall death rate in the US is maybe 0.3% and that percentage is not climbing...
The jab does not lower the viral load, according to published results of nurses in a study in Viet Nam: 251 times the viral load in the nostrils for the jabbed. Yeah, I know - "two different populations, the old people were the original virus"...right. BEFORE ANY "VACCINATIONS" were around. The jab does not protect against the new virus.
Read up on "immune escape" and the Marek chickens in the literature.
And according to Israel, the death rate is going up among the jabbed.
With PCR anything can test positive as Covid now. Colds. Flues. Grapefruit, Soft drinks...
Lol what? Are you serious?
“Not to mention the loaded phrase "anitvax propaganda".”
I prefer accurate terminology. Words mean things.
“There's plenty of real information on these threads”
I’ve seen a lot of it elsewhere. It’s not new to me.
“Apparently the jab trolls don't want it getting publicized.”
Is there a reason y’all refer to it as the “jab?” I see it on Twitter, as well. You don’t see people referring to the tetanus jab or the smallpox jab.
“The mRNA vaccines didn't WORK. They still don't: Swine Flu was pulled from the market after 3 deaths reported to VAERS according to the New York Times in 1976; but the current crop of mRNA jabs for COVID have seen what is it, 12,000 deaths reported to VAERS in the US, and around 15,000 or so to the European sister agency as of May.”
Lord, give me strength. 3 elderly people died post-vax in 1976, as elderly people tend to do. No connection to the vax—which was unnecessary as there was never any real outbreak—was ever proven. That has nothing to do with the SARS and MERS research which was the platform for the current Covid vaccines.
“And a Harvard-Pilgrim study back in 2009 showed that only around 1% of adverse events ever get reported to VAERS.”
Which means nothing. Anyone can report anything to VAERS. It’s totally unverified. There are claims of the Covid shot causing bald spots, anal leakage, and a penis swelling 10 times its size. A report was made of a baby’s death—it was a fabrication. Never happened.
“The other issue, is that of long-term effects. Read up on Vioxx (FDA-approved) and why it got pulled from the market. 180,000 heart attacks in 5 years, I think.”
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Lol okay. Next I’ll inform myself about the side effects of acne medications and I’m sure there’s a connection to the Covid vaccine. You’re pulling out complete irrelevancies.
“You cannot tell the rate of clots from Covid itself, since there exists no accurate clinical test for COVID infection. Kary Mullis, who got the Nobel Prize for inventing the PCR reaction, said it was never meant for diagnosis.”
This is what happens when you get your information from a Facebook post by “VirusGuy”, which is the source of this false claim. The context of the quote was twisted in order to further the anti-vax agenda. Mullins did not say PCR tests don’t work. He qualified that they work qualitatively, not quantitatively, detecting the genetic sequence of viruses instead of the viruses themselves. Also, it was a quote from 1996 about HIV, not Covid:
“PCR is intended to identify substances qualitatively, but by its very nature is unsuited for estimating numbers. Although there is a common misimpression that the viral load tests actually count the number of viruses in the blood, these tests cannot detect free, infectious viruses at all; they can only detect proteins that are believed, in some cases wrongly, to be unique to HIV. The tests can detect genetic sequences of viruses, but not viruses themselves.”
And your statement about clot statistics and no tests for Covid are just plainly false. Period. Full stop. A large peer-reviewed study published in The British Medical Journal, researchers from Oxford University, the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine and several other British universities and hospitals analyzed data from more than 29 million people who received Pfizer and Astra-Zeneca. Results: clotting was substantially higher for Covid infection.
You are asking me to dismiss this study, The Mayo Clinic, The Cleveland Clinic, my doctor, and my husband’s doctor and instead believe some YT or Facebook quack with vitamins to sell. Truthfully, I mourn for the days when conservatives used to think.
“Secondly, the CDC has said they would not report adverse events except for hospitalization and death, associated with the jabs.”
I can’t speak to that because I’m not informed about it.
“That means that blood clots that fall short of requiring hospitalization, won't show up in the numbers.”
See above. Also, Oxford University studies determined that the risk of clots is 10 times higher with Covid infection than with Astra-Zeneca.
“There was a Canadian MD who had given over 900 people the COVID jabs. He noticed his patients were then presenting with headaches or reduced exercise capacity -- e.g. a patient who walked 2 miles round trip to see him once a week, suddenly couldn't walk more than 1/4 mile.
So he started doing before-and-after d-dimer blood tests (indicative of, but no pathognomonic, for clotting--e.g. cancer will also elevate d-dimer).
He noted that 62% of the patients he did the d-dimer test on, had elevated levels after the jab).”
Yes, Charles Hoffe, the doctor who said that everyone who received the vaccines will experience clots—“it’s absolutely inevitable” and “guaranteed”, lol. You mentioned that the D-dimer test can detect cancer, but you failed to mention that it detects inflammation, which is present in the body after any vaccine as part of the immune response & is the cause for the mild effects like sore arm and body aches.
“You are right that Covid causes clots *in severe cases*.
The Lancet did a meta study showing that 21% of those hospitalized for the coof ended up with deep vein thrombosis.
But that's only the severe cases.”
I don’t know what a coof is, but it hasn’t occurred to you that all hospitalized cases of Covid are severe?
“And, the clots are due to spike protein: numerous scientific papers agree on this, from in vitro studies on human blood mixed with spike protein, to the Salk institute injecting animals with covid virus where the genetic material had been removed, to other studies showing that the mere binding of the spike protein with the ACE2 receptor, results in the affected cell sending out a cascade of inflammatory, pro-clotting cytokines.
Now when you get exposed to COVID, the virus doesn't race for your blood; and you don't get trillions of spike molecules all at once. But you do with the jabs: the Pfizer jab puts about 11 trillion mRNA molecules into the body all at once; about 25% stay in the shoulder; and each mRNA molecule can induce the body to produce up to 2000 spike protein molecules.”
And?
“There are no panic headlines about the jabs. But there sure were about the virus. Remember the videos of people being welded into their apartments in Wuhan, or falling over dead in mid-stride in the street?
Huh. It's been over a year and a half later and I haven't seen that in the US. In fact, 40% of the dead had *diabetes*. And the overall death rate in the US is maybe 0.3% and that percentage is not climbing..”.
Lol there are plenty of both. On our side they’re usually on sites like Natural News, beginning with “BOMBSHELL!!!!” in all caps and followed by something like “THERE IS NO TEST FOR COVID!!!!!” with the requisite half a dozen exclamation marks.
“Diabetes” in quotes—is that a fake disease now? Also, you’re wrong again. The 7 day moving average of deaths is up 3.7% .
“The jab does not lower the viral load, according to published results of nurses in a study in Viet Nam: 251 times the viral load in the nostrils for the jabbed. Yeah, I know - "two different populations, the old people were the original virus"...right. BEFORE ANY "VACCINATIONS" were around. The jab does not protect against the new virus.”
Absolute foolish nonsense originating with an anti-vax group called Children’s Health Defense which also promotes “medical racism.” The study concluded that “viral loads of breakthrough Delta variant infection cases were 251 times higher than those of cases infected with old strains detected between March-April 2020.”
“Read up on "immune escape" and the Marek chickens in the literature.”
…Chickens. I don’t believe I will.
“And according to Israel, the death rate is going up among the jabbed.”
Israel saw a jump in cases largely because children were catching Covid, and because there were breakthroughs of the more contagious strain among the vaccinated. Vaccination rates plateaued & fell in Israel. The trend is now going down, and the unvaccinated are ten times more likely to have serious disease/death.
This is the last long screed I’m replying to item by item. Adding the p tags on my phone has taken up my morning & I have things to do. If anyone is on Twitter and wants good, solid Covid & vaccine facts that cut through the BS on both sides, I recommend four medical professionals. You can read even if you don’t have an account.
@sailorrooscout @joesilverman7 @MonicaGandhi9 @mugecevik
You showed your hand right there. Twitter censors whatever doesn't follow their propaganda.
How much does your company pay you to promote Twitter? (Knowing it's our tax money paying the contract to promote "vaccines").
Couldn't make it as a YouTube "influencer" could you?
Well, those doctors & virologists I mentioned manage to keep getting out the message every day about CDC panic headlines and insisting that children must be back in school. You are aware there’s a huge conservative presence on Twitter, yes?
To answer your question, the Rothschilds are paying me to get the message out. It’s a commission job, though—I’m not on salary. First I have to mention Twitter, then convince you to get the death jab. I get my money after you grow a tail.
Can you ask your bosses to explain the difference between COVID-19 and a bio-weapon? Can they explain why a “vaccine” needs boosters before five months? Can they explain the refusal to turn over taxpayer funded data?
They’re at lunch right now, sucking down some adrenochrome. When they get back, I’ll be sure to ask.
Lol what? Are you serious?
In this context, yes.
“Not to mention the loaded phrase "anitvax propaganda".”
I prefer accurate terminology. Words mean things.
Not to you trolls and vax-propagandists they don't.
“There's plenty of real information on these threads”
I’ve seen a lot of it elsewhere. It’s not new to me.
*snerk* (Says the self-described 41-year-old housewife.)
“Apparently the jab trolls don't want it getting publicized.” Is there a reason y’all refer to it as the “jab?” I see it on Twitter, as well. You don’t see people referring to the tetanus jab or the smallpox jab.
To ridicule the experimental gene therapies; and to prevent the propaganda of calling them "vaccines". The CDC and a couple of dictionaries magically changed the definition of "vaccine" from the usage for decades, just for the clot-shot.
Just like Winston Smith of 1984.
“The mRNA vaccines didn't WORK. They still don't: Swine Flu was pulled from the market after 3 deaths reported to VAERS according to the New York Times in 1976; but the current crop of mRNA jabs for COVID have seen what is it, 12,000 deaths reported to VAERS in the US, and around 15,000 or so to the European sister agency as of May.”
Lord, give me strength. 3 elderly people died post-vax in 1976, as elderly people tend to do. No connection to the vax—which was unnecessary as there was never any real outbreak—was ever proven. That has nothing to do with the SARS and MERS research which was the platform for the current Covid vaccines.
Top. Kek. That's why the Swine Flu vaccine was given a black box warning at 25 deaths reported and pulled from the market entirely at 50.
And, your trolling is confirmed.
When people die from anything else, it's "well, elderly people are going to die anyway" or 0moeba's "Sooner or later you'll just have to give granny that pain pill."
But let old people get murdered in nursing homes by Dem Governors putting covid patients into the nursing homes, ignoring two dedicated US Navy Hospital ships, and numerous field hospitals, and it's "DRUMPF's FAULT! WE MUST JAB EVERYONE!"
I love your fake Southern "Lord give me strength" too.
“And a Harvard-Pilgrim study back in 2009 showed that only around 1% of adverse events ever get reported to VAERS.”
Which means nothing. Anyone can report anything to VAERS. It’s totally unverified. There are claims of the Covid shot causing bald spots, anal leakage, and a penis swelling 10 times its size. A report was made of a baby’s death—it was a fabrication. Never happened.
In other words, you're trying to cover up by bluster and changing the subject. And lying.
The Nobel-Prize-winning inventor of the PCR test said it should never be used for diagnostics.
Yet it was used for the better part of a year to "diagnose" COVID. Further, hospitals and others were encouraged to exaggerate COVID claims for financial gain. But with all that, none of the trolls or totalitarians pushing the jab, EVER doubted the numbers. But as soon as any claims are made about the jabs, suddenly, the hue and cry goes out for full forensic analysis of every case OR the association is being refused utterly.
Funny, you're changing the use of the null hypothesis to whichever way favors increased totalitarian control.
And, it figures you'd try to change the subject to enlarged penises. I'm concerned with excess deaths, which are much easier to validate, and much harder to dismiss as hypochondria. The body's right there, you see.
"A report was made of a baby's death: it never happened." Primary source material links? Or suddenly, you're the only one who gets to use anecdotal evidence which is deliberately vague, the better to feed into the rumor mill for your side.
For the other effects, there are numerous doctors complaining that the VAERS system is cryptic and times you out early; one board-certified internist wrote that before this, when they'd phoned in a report of an adverse event, they got a callback in person within four hours; this time, reporting a death due to the jab, they were literally hung up on.
“The other issue, is that of long-term effects. Read up on Vioxx (FDA-approved) and why it got pulled from the market. 180,000 heart attacks in 5 years, I think.”
Look you went speechless before lying again.
Lol okay. Next I’ll inform myself about the side effects of acne medications and I’m sure there’s a connection to the Covid vaccine. You’re pulling out complete irrelevancies.
Vioxx was not an Acne medication.
You've got your talking points confused.
And it is not an irrelevancy, because Vioxx went through full FDA trials (not the abbreviated joke on the jabs with only 2 months follow up, where one manufacturer's phase3 trial as reported in the New England Journal of Medicine had only 24 animals TOTAL. That's not enough for meaningful statistics.
“You cannot tell the rate of clots from Covid itself, since there exists no accurate clinical test for COVID infection. Kary Mullis, who got the Nobel Prize for inventing the PCR reaction, said it was never meant for diagnosis.”
This is what happens when you get your information from a Facebook post by “VirusGuy”, which is the source of this false claim. The context of the quote was twisted in order to further the anti-vax agenda. Mullins did not say PCR tests don’t work. He qualified that they work qualitatively, not quantitatively, detecting the genetic sequence of viruses instead of the viruses themselves. Also, it was a quote from 1996 about HIV, not Covid:
...this is what happens when a troll pretends to be a 41-year-old housewife. First, I don't read or post on Facebook. Second, I got that quote from a number of different sources.
Here's the quote. I'll tell you exactly why you are wrong.
“PCR is intended to identify substances qualitatively, but by its very nature is unsuited for estimating numbers. Although there is a common misimpression that the viral load tests actually count the number of viruses in the blood, these tests cannot detect free, infectious viruses at all; they can only detect proteins that are believed, in some cases wrongly, to be unique to HIV. The tests can detect genetic sequences of viruses, but not viruses themselves.”
THE FIRST SENTENCE AND LAST SENTENCE TOGETHER IS WHY IT IS APPLICABLE TO COVID.
PCR stands for "polymerase chain reaction". It artificially magnifies the quantity of genetic material present in a sample. What that means is, two-fold.
First, the more cycles you run, the larger the quantity of genetic material after the test.
Second, the test is completely agnostic as to sequences: that is, it does not only increase the count of complete DNA/RNA molecules, but of all shorter sequences of nucleotides.
Which means if you have fragments, which have the same sequence as found in other viruses, when the test amplifies the count of fragments, you then have no idea whether the fragments originally had come from a true COVID virus, or from something else.
But as a 41-year-old housewife, that's above ability to understand.
It's also worth noting the Bite-Me administration changed the recommended number of cycles for testing : 42 at first, then dropping down to 28 or 32, AFTER the jabs started coming out. This would have the effect of overcounting supposed cases before the jabs, and undercounting them later.
It's putting their thumb on the scale.
And your statement about clot statistics and no tests for Covid are just plainly false. Period. Full stop. A large peer-reviewed study published in The British Medical Journal, researchers from Oxford University, the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine and several other British universities and hospitals analyzed data from more than 29 million people who received Pfizer and Astra-Zeneca. Results: clotting was substantially higher for Covid infection.
Let me see, London School of...yeah, they're the school whose top epidemiologist early on, overestimated the upcoming worldwide death count from the coof by a factor of 10, and then broke quarantine to go sleep with some other guy's wife he was having an affair with. Nice trustworthy bunch.
There are several reasons your statement is meaningless, no matter how much you want to strut about the supposed reputation of the schools, is that there is no pathognomonic chemical test for infection with the coof. The PCR test is intrinsically unreliable: not only can it not distinguish between genetic material from the coof vs. viruses containing similar nucleic fragments -- but it cannot tell whether the material was from living virus, long-dead virus, or virus kept in check by the body so the person was "exposed" but never got sick.
And, the study had no control or ways of looking at people who had a mild case of COVID, to see if they had clots.
The next reason, is that there is no way to ascertain the provenance of any clots, if a person has both been exposed to the virus and to the jabs.
And finally, what forms of clotting were considered, and how long after the injections was as allowed? Only 14 days? Only after the first jab?
Were the clots limited to venous sinus thrombosis, to thrombosis with thrombocytopenia? Or to cases of heavy menstrual flow as among perio/postmenopausal women getting the jabs? To microclotting in the capillaries as indicated by the d-dimer testing by Charles Hoffe in Canada?
You are asking me to dismiss this study, The Mayo Clinic, The Cleveland Clinic, my doctor, and my husband’s doctor and instead believe some YT or Facebook quack with vitamins to sell. Truthfully, I mourn for the days when conservatives used to think.
I don't even know that you're married, let along that your husband is a doctor.
And I don't trust The Mayo Clinic or the Cleveland Clinic.
See, there's a guy who went to MIT.
He graduated MIT at the age of 21.
...with a PhD.
At age 21.
In theoretical physics.
He won the Nobel Prize.
And what he said is, "It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's WRONG."
All the experiments you quoted have major systematic errors in them (it's a technical term, you wouldn't understand).
“Secondly, the CDC has said they would not report adverse events except for hospitalization and death, associated with the jabs.”
I can’t speak to that because I’m not informed about it.
You're not informed about much of anything. It's right on the CDC website.
See above. Also, Oxford University studies determined that the risk of clots is 10 times higher with Covid infection than with Astra-Zeneca.
Severe infection? Hospitalization? Or a passing case which gives you sniffles?
Yes, Charles Hoffe, the doctor who said that everyone who received the vaccines will experience clots—“it’s absolutely inevitable” and “guaranteed”, lol. You mentioned that the D-dimer test can detect cancer, but you failed to mention that it detects inflammation, which is present in the body after any vaccine as part of the immune response & is the cause for the mild effects like sore arm and body aches.
The presence of microscopic clots is more closely correlated with the actual symptoms of those who were jabbed -- like a patient who went from before the jab, walking a 2-mile-round-trip once a week to visit the doctor, to suddenly being unable to walk a quarter mile.
Now when you get exposed to COVID, the virus doesn't race for your blood; and you don't get trillions of spike molecules all at once. But you do with the jabs: the Pfizer jab puts about 11 trillion mRNA molecules into the body all at once; about 25% stay in the shoulder; and each mRNA molecule can induce the body to produce up to 2000 spike protein molecules.”
Self-explanatory. Also completely over your head.
Natural exposure to the coof virus in a social setting does not put 11 trillion protein mRNAs into your system all at the same time. But a jab does.
“There are no panic headlines about the jabs. But there sure were about the virus. Remember the videos of people being welded into their apartments in Wuhan, or falling over dead in mid-stride in the street?
Huh. It's been over a year and a half later and I haven't seen that in the US. In fact, 40% of the dead had *diabetes*. And the overall death rate in the US is maybe 0.3% and that percentage is not climbing..”.
Lol there are plenty of both. On our side they’re usually on sites like Natural News, beginning with “BOMBSHELL!!!!” in all caps and followed by something like “THERE IS NO TEST FOR COVID!!!!!” with the requisite half a dozen exclamation marks.
SHOW ME THE VIDEOS OF PEOPLE FALLING DOWN DEAD IN MID-STRIDE WALKING DOWN A PUBLIC STREET FROM COVID INFECTION IN THE US DURING THE LAST TWO MONTHS. DITTO FOR PEOPLE BEING WELDED INTO THEIR APARTMENTS TO FORCE QUARANTINE.
“Diabetes” in quotes—is that a fake disease now? Also, you’re wrong again. The 7 day moving average of deaths is up 3.7% .
Diabetes was in asterisks, not quotes: emphasis. You made another knowingly false mischaracterization because you're losing.
And your refutation shows you'd better go back in the kitchen as a housewife. There's a difference between "overall death rate" of 0.3% (meaning, 3 out of every thousand people who get sick with the coof, die) and "7 day moving average of deaths is up 3.7%" (meaning, in the last week the number of people per thousand dying, went up from 0.3, to 0.3011).
>Absolute foolish nonsense originating with an anti-vax group called Children’s Health Defense which also promotes “medical racism.” The study concluded that “viral loads of breakthrough Delta variant infection cases were 251 times higher than those of cases infected with old strains detected between March-April 2020.”
Your conclusion of the study is just what I said. Viral loads in the nostrils of breakthrough Delta variant infections" == "nurses in a study in Viet Nam: 251 times the viral load in the nostrils for the jabbed."
See, if the viral load, of the old virus, was bad enough before there were vaccinations, we had to close down all of society -- then 251 times that viral load, of the new virus -- among people who were "vaccinated" for it -- means the virus is able to spread much more now, even after the jabs.
So the jabs aren't working.
Making fun of the name of the website is a Marxist propaganda tactic. It is not logically significant.
“Read up on "immune escape" and the Marek chickens in the literature.”
…Chickens. I don’t believe I will.
This is why you have no idea why the jabs are leading to natural selection of the virus, leading to new versions which are not affected by the current "vaccines" and might even have their infectiousness INCREASED by the antibodies created by the jab (it's called "antibody-dependent enhancement" and is a known thing with other viruses such as dengue fever.
Israel saw a jump in cases largely because children were catching Covid, and because there were breakthroughs of the more contagious strain among the vaccinated.
In other words, those who got the jab, incubated new, highly infectious versions, and were able to spread it to populations formerly resistant (like children) *because the injections didn't work*. Bye now. Be sure to tell Cass Sunstein and Susan Rice you failed.
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