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Vaccine Lobby vs the Unvaccinated: The Global COVID-19 Faultline May Now Be Unbridgeable
Activist Post ^ | JULY 30, 2021 | Dr. Mathew Maavak

Posted on 08/04/2021 12:30:56 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

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To: grey_whiskers

Hidden in the fine print....

Thank you, gw..


41 posted on 08/04/2021 5:10:20 AM PDT by LSAggie
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To: SoConPubbie
Corona A Primer

Antibody-Dependent Enhancement Risk for SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine Developers

“Because if the gun is jumped, and a vaccine is widely distributed that is disease enhancing, that would be worse than actually not doing any vaccination at all.”

42 posted on 08/04/2021 5:11:55 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: grey_whiskers

From the report, “*No mRNA drug has been approved in this new potential class of medicines, and may never be approved as a result of efforts by others or us. mRNA drug development has substantial clinical development and regulatory risks due to the novel and unprecedented nature of this new class of medicines.”


43 posted on 08/04/2021 5:12:15 AM PDT by Techster
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To: Techster

Note also that when that was filed in June 2020, Moderna said they were $1.74 billion in debt.

Now look at this:

https://uncoverdc.com/2021/07/10/with-feds-help-moderna-forecasts-record-revenue-of-19-2b/

Nothing like a little unnecessary “Emergency Use Authorization” (> 99% survival rate and most deaths over age 70 with pre-existing conditions; Ivermectin and HCQ/Zinc prevent most hospitalizations) to goose up an experimental drug company’s profits, is there?


44 posted on 08/04/2021 6:03:49 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Vaccine lobby = VacciNazis


45 posted on 08/04/2021 6:26:56 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Jonty30
Wait until 6 months from now, when many of the vaccinated start becoming very ill.

It will take a bit longer, but that's been my position from the outset. I worry for my parents (I believe that my father coerced my mother: He's beholden to msnbc etc.)

46 posted on 08/04/2021 6:58:51 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: frogjerk

I got Moderna, second shot in February.


47 posted on 08/04/2021 10:35:14 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 21twelve
"I'm guessing these examples (explained poorly I'm sure!) are similar to how the mRNA stuff works - it is telling your DNA to create a spiky protein when that is not a normal function of the human body."

No, not at all. First, let's look at the basic structure of a human cell:

So inside the cell, you have the cytoplasm (a sort of gel that allows things to move that need to but otherwise helps hold structures in place), a bunch of organelles including ribosomes, and the cell nucleus. The nucleus is where your DNA is and there's a membrane around it to protect it. The only way in or out is through the nuclear pores.

So all day every day, parts of your DNA are used to create proteins your cell needs to live and do its job. DNA doesn't leave the nucleus, so an enzyme inside the nucleus unwinds part of your DNA and transcribes the needed piece onto messenger RNA which gets constructed in a process called transcription. Once that messenger RNA strand is completed, transport proteins bring it out of the nucleus and into the cytoplasm. One of the organelles in the cytoplasm is something called a ribosome. Its only job is to take messenger RNA and read it to produce whatever amino acid or protein is encoded. So your DNA gets transcribed onto a messenger RNA strand and that mRNA strand is used by ribosomes to create the proteins necessary for life. This happens in every cell in your body all the time.

Now if a virus (like SARS-CoV-2, the virus responsible for COVID-19) infects one of your cells, it injects its RNA into the cytoplasm and uses your ribosomes to create complete copies of it. There is no regulation on this; this replication continues until the cell bursts apart with new viruses, each of which can then infect new cells.

With the mRNA vaccines, a strand of mRNA which encodes for one piece of the virus enters some of your body's cells and is read by ribosomes to produce a surface protein from the SARS-CoV-2 virus. That surface protein is just one small part of the virus and can't infect anything or replicate itself, but it's recognized by the immune system as foreign so it triggers a normal immune response. The ribosomes are just doing what they always do: they got some mRNA and they produce the encoded protein. The mRNA itself breaks down rapidly, with a half-life of just a few hours. That means all the mRNA in the vaccine is gone in just a few days. This is in contrast to the self-replicating SARS-CoV-2 virus. It doesn't break down inside the body. It continues infecting cells and replicating until either you are dead or your immune system has destroyed every last virion.

So the important points here are that the mRNA vaccines don't do anything with DNA. Their mRNA has no way into the cell nucleus where the DNA is. If it magically popped in, what happens to mRNA inside the nucleus? Those transport proteins just bring it out through a nuclear pore. And it wouldn't matter anyway because transcription writes DNA to mRNA; not the other way around. mRNA has no way to unwind DNA, no way to make cuts or inserts, and no way to repair DNA. The mRNA just enters the cell cytoplasm and causes some proteins to be created which then train the immune system on how to recognize and destroy the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

I hope this helps your understanding of how this all works.

48 posted on 08/04/2021 10:55:06 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

What? No vaccines were available a year and half ago.


49 posted on 08/04/2021 11:02:54 AM PDT by tinamina
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To: 21twelve

Here are a couple videos that can help visualize these processes.

DNA transcription and translation (what your body cells do all the time): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG7uCskUOrA

mRNA vaccine action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCk7LyMslxo

Both are very short (under 3 minutes each) and easy to understand. Some people have an easier time with visuals.


50 posted on 08/04/2021 11:06:39 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: tinamina

The Phase 1 clinical trials began March 16, 2020. That’s when the first doses were given.

https://about.kaiserpermanente.org/our-story/health-research/news/first-covid-19-vaccine-trial-at-kaiser-permanente-washington

So yes, some people have been vaccinated throughout that whole time. More were vaccinated when the Phase 2 clinical trials began in the spring, and even more last summer. Tens of thousands in the US alone. Over 100,000 participated in the clinical trials between the US and the UK alone.


51 posted on 08/04/2021 11:08:56 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

So your immunity runs out at the end of August?


52 posted on 08/04/2021 12:25:16 PM PDT by frogjerk (I will not do business with fascists)
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To: Jonty30

I used to and still try to respect the choices of those who took the jab, but I have to tell you most them are vicious pricks when it comes to respecting your decision not to take the jab. Self-righteous, condescending and bullying little thugs is the behavior I get back when they find out I am an untouchable, a leper, Juden.

My daughter is starting her last year of college in the nursing program. The hospital where the clinicals are done is demanding all it’s employees get the jab and telling the students you as well will be jabbed. Employees having to submit to the employers economic blackmail and coercion is one thing, but making healthcare decisions for students is something altogether different. Is the hospitals or college going to be responsible for any side effects of these witches brews if something goes wrong?


53 posted on 08/04/2021 12:28:12 PM PDT by sarge83
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To: frogjerk

There’s no evidence whatsoever to support that. Even if antibody titers were to decrease, the real question is whether Memory B-cell lymphocytes remain to ramp back up that response to an exposure. That’s how antibodies work: your body doesn’t sit there producing antibodies 24/7 to every single pathogen you’ve ever been exposed to. That requires an absolutely massive amount of energy. B-cell lymphocytes produce antibodies for a limited period of time and then 90% die off, leaving 10% dormant as Memory B-cells.

Same for those previously infected as it is for those vaccinated. It’s the same immune response because whether the dendritic cells encounter SARS-CoV-2 S proteins presented due to vaccinated or the dendritic cells encounter SARS-CoV-2 S proteins on the surface of SARS-CoV-2 virions, they’re still just taking those antigens back to the lymph nodes to begin T-cell lymphocyte production.


54 posted on 08/04/2021 12:33:44 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
There’s no evidence whatsoever to support that.

So then natural immunity is fine as well as those vaccinated not needing booster shots.

55 posted on 08/04/2021 12:50:28 PM PDT by frogjerk (I will not do business with fascists)
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To: frogjerk

Yes, I would agree with that.

I would say that a Delta-specific shot would be helpful in reducing the risk of transmission, but anyone who is vaccinated or who has recovered from infection seems to have excellent protection against severe illness and death.


56 posted on 08/04/2021 12:55:00 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: SoConPubbie

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57 posted on 08/07/2021 6:17:04 AM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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