Posted on 07/29/2021 2:16:48 PM PDT by NoLibZone
New recommendations from federal health officials this week on when vaccinated Americans should don face masks came with a startling bolt of news: People who have had their shots and become infected with the delta variant of the coronavirus can harbor large amounts of virus just like unvaccinated people. That means they could become spreaders of the disease and should return to wearing masks indoors in certain situations, including when vulnerable people are present.
But the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention did not publish the new research. In the text of the updated masking guidance, the agency merely cited “CDC COVID-19 Response Team, unpublished data, 2021.”
Some outside scientists have their own message: Show us the data.
“They’re making a claim that people with delta who are vaccinated and unvaccinated have similar levels of viral load, but nobody knows what that means,” said Gregg Gonsalves, an associate professor at the Yale School of Public Health. “It’s meaningless unless we see the data.”
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
No need to worry yourself about following “the truth” if you can manage to say with a reasonably straight face that you are following “the science”, or, simply, following “science”.
Perhaps, but the data from Israel indicates that the population of jabbed and unjabbed are infected in proportions identical to the ratio of jabbed and unjabbed - meaning that the jab has no effect on Delta infection.
At this point, I actively disbelieve 99% of the "scientific" promouncements from fedgov and the deep state media.
I agree and I can see store shelves being stripped bare again if there’s more panic buying. People have short memories. However, I do think more people are going to be ready than before.
They were fools to think they could in the first place.
But things didn't pan out the way they expected, especially in regard to people's reactions to the masks, lockdowns, vaxxes, etc.
Note in the above post there were 6 individuals with prior history of CV19 — It looks like that is the only group that had no individuals with acute illness.
I just heard about a couple that the husband caught it last weekend from someone who was vaxxed, husband is in the hospital, wife at home. Vaxxed person is just now showing symptoms.
Teport is from my son’s college professor (she goes to church with the couple)
Shopping trips—never stopped prepping for the next one — in fact increased the effort. Never stop prepping these days. Ha.
Well, wouldn’t it be ironic, if the injected turn out to be the ones causing all the new stuff? Will TPTB decide to they are the ones that have to mask up, and be tested daily to make sure they ain’t a super spreader?
What else is missing is whether these people are asymptomatic…
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I suspect they are. Although it’s not the Delta variant here’s what happened to a group of gold miners. The patient zero was injected, and did not know he was sick-chart @ the link.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3980364/posts?page=66#66
I just heard about a couple that the husband caught it last weekend from someone who was vaxxed, husband is in the hospital, wife at home. Vaxxed person is just now showing symptoms.
Teport is from my son’s college professor (she goes to church with the couple)
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I believe it. It fits with some of the studies I have looked at. So the injection has worked to reduce the symptoms, and the apparently unintended consequence is that the injected
1. become super spreaders,
2. have delayed treatments-potentially making their illness worse than if treatment began immediately,
3. and are being required to mask up to prevent others from getting the illness - including the other injected people.
In addition, other studies have shown that the existing vaccines are not effective for building durable immunity since the data is that the nucleocapsid section, which the vaccines do not code, is where most of the pre-existing resistance against serious disease resides.
Seems to me, that mRNA wasn’t ready for prime time, and the traditional inactivated virus process would have been better for building durable immunity against the RONA and it’s variants.
My question is....if un-jabbed gets infected by a jabbed person, is that still considered natural immunity (“good”, lifetime immunity)...or, is it some sort of detrimental/non-effective *immunity*? 😱
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I haven’t heard anyone answer this, yet.
that’s an interesting question. I dunno. However, I would think that if the Jabbed are infected, it is with a real virus that they encountered. Therefore, I would theorize that the immunity from surviving would be effective and durable.
Additionally, recall that approximately 80% of people already had some measure of immunity, and if such a person caught a virus no matter who from, it would tune up the natural immunity.
In addition to all the other risks associated with the injection, this ability of the shot to dampen the symptoms, makes the spread more likely-a negative for public health.
And from an individual standpoint that jabbed person is getting delayed treatment because they don’t know they are infected—and we know early treatment is important to their health, as well as to reduce the need for hospitalization.
The infection is caused by the virus, so it would produce the same immunity.
Since last year Jan, I have been shopping with that in mind.
So it sounds like the vaxxes are causing a worse epidemic that simply letting the virus run its course.
People are sicker when they do show symptoms and spread it more making the vaxxed super spreaders.
Yes, to me, that’s the way it’s beginning to look.
Exactly!
Jabbed are the super spreaders and this is what they’re hiding by not even counting the jabbed, in hospitalizations....in states like TX (and, probably most states).
There are so many of us that suspected that the vax was actually the second bioweapon.
It’s coming to look more and more like it by the day.
The vax was like throwing gasoline on a fire. Just as the pandemic would have burned itself out naturally, get everyone vaxxed and make the naturally less virulent variant more deadly than ever.
Now they have a new reason to mandate more….. mandates. The fear narrative is crucial to keep the left in power and in control.
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