Posted on 07/21/2021 6:31:47 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
No. You keep making excuses vigilantism.
And other posters have noted that absolutely no evidence has been forthcoming that would indicate the murder victim actually was a pedophile. It is quite possible that he was a victim of a "random" murder just for fun. I do not know the facts. Do you? I find the incident disturbing on several levels.
It would not be the first time that a cover lie was used to justify a murder.
In a system of law and order we would have a through investigation of charges and consideration of evidence before imposing any sanctions on an individual. Vigilante action would be unnecessary, undesirable, and impermissible.
We no longer have a system of law and order.
We have "pretense-of-law". Persons with high-level political connections can do absolutely anything they want to do without regard for laws. And they don't even bother to hide it anymore. "Laws are for little people".
Lower-level Criminals are commonly released from trivial sentences to prey on the general population while Innocents are all-to-frequently convicted. Middle-class individuals who offend the ruling politicians may be punished with bogus charges, monstrous legal expenses, and even jail terms. It has been justly said that "the process is the punishment". There is no law and very little order in any of this.
"Pretense-of-Law" is what we have now.
People at all class levels have come to understand that the police will not protect them. The job of the police and the courts is to enforce the orders of the rulers. They do that fairly well. But we have too many insane and evil rulers. They do not want to be restrained by laws.
That is why the vigilante narrative is becoming increasingly popular; never mind the the horrendous abuses of that narrative that are certain to result. The system will not protect you but maybe your neighbors can.
Or maybe not. I am a little unsure about some of my neighbors. Maybe I would be better off to just leave them all alone and keep a low profile. I highly recommend that plan.
You want to prevent murders done the name of the Vigilance Committee? You want a return Rule of Law? It will require a purge of the entire legislative, judicial, and police system to do that. And very likely that will require a purge of our current rulers.
Scolding those who jump on the Vigilante Narrative is insufficient to fix the problem. The breakdown of law and order is what causes Vigilantes to look appealing.
Well, that looks like an improvement of sorts. Both of the"answers" to the question are wrong anyway. I can freely admit that I am still looking for workable solutions in a time Without Rule Of Law. ("WROL"). I am not finding much.
What have ya got?
I plan to give the local Vigilance Committee a very wide berth myself. They will likely be run by the Socialist Antifa and BLM sympathizers that helped cause the problems in the first place.
It won't upset me much if they turn their guns on each other after making all kinds of slanderous, vile, and false accusations about their rivals. I will be very quiet in the background and I will not be cheering for anybody.
I am not placing much of a bet on Rule-of-Law anymore. It was nice while it lasted. Maybe a new generation can restore that. Those people are ten years old right now. It would behoove us to protect them from predators.
And "some people just need killin' ".
"None of the above" is always a valid selection in a multiple choice question.
Whatever the facts of him being beaten are, he was a career criminal. Could be one of his past victims took him out:
“Raynor had 24 arrests to his name, but his record did not suggest a history of pedophilia, sources said.”
Been done way before that movie. Art imitating life.
I keep telling you that it is now a fact of life. I don’t like it. But here we are. You keep acting as though that is an attempt at justifying it. It is not. It is acknowledging a distasteful reality. Can’t you get your head around that?
If everyone were starving, cannibalism would be a fact of life, too.
I wish the police were not defunded, and that the courts had discretion or used the discretion that they have more effectively, so that the ordinary people who follow the rules could feel safe following them. Then there would be no vigilantes beating people to death on Staten Island. They’d only do it in Brooklyn and the South Bronx, and then just for fun, not as vigilantes, per se. As it is, this is probably going to spread like wildfire. Pay attention to Broad Channel, the second most conservative area in NYC. Then Flatlands, and then it’ll be Charles Bronson’s NYC.
Whatever his merits or demerits, at this point what difference does it make? He’s dead. No trial. No evidence presentable at a trial. No right to counsel or appeal. Just a couple of gumbahs with baseball bats or crowbars. Too late to presume he’s innocent even.
Just saying. Knew one in the Family. None of the parents would let their children get anywhere near him, and the excuse was always, "You don't understand..."
Sounds like justice.
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