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Man found dead on Staten Island with ‘I touch little girls’ written on chest
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Posted on 07/21/2021 6:31:47 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal

An 80-year-old man was found dead in a Staten Island apartment building with the words “I touch little girls” scrawled across his body, cops and a neighbor said Tuesday.

The body of Robert Raynor was found just after 9:30 a.m. Monday inside the first-floor hallway of 256 Corson Ave. in Tompkinsville, according to police.

Raynor’s upstairs neighbor told The Post that he was jolted awake in the wee hours of Monday by a ruckus in the building.

“It was so loud, I could hear it over the air conditioner,” said Isaac Williams, 40. “I said, ‘What the hell are they doing down there?’ It was loud banging, like ‘boom, boom, boom.’ Like people were wrestling or someone was throwing somebody around.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: crime; ny; pedophiles; sijustice; streetjustice
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To: Eleutheria5
OK?

No. You keep making excuses vigilantism.

101 posted on 07/21/2021 6:00:59 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DJ MacWoW
I did not miss your point at all.

And other posters have noted that absolutely no evidence has been forthcoming that would indicate the murder victim actually was a pedophile. It is quite possible that he was a victim of a "random" murder just for fun. I do not know the facts. Do you? I find the incident disturbing on several levels.

It would not be the first time that a cover lie was used to justify a murder.

In a system of law and order we would have a through investigation of charges and consideration of evidence before imposing any sanctions on an individual. Vigilante action would be unnecessary, undesirable, and impermissible.

We no longer have a system of law and order.

We have "pretense-of-law". Persons with high-level political connections can do absolutely anything they want to do without regard for laws. And they don't even bother to hide it anymore. "Laws are for little people".

Lower-level Criminals are commonly released from trivial sentences to prey on the general population while Innocents are all-to-frequently convicted. Middle-class individuals who offend the ruling politicians may be punished with bogus charges, monstrous legal expenses, and even jail terms. It has been justly said that "the process is the punishment". There is no law and very little order in any of this.

"Pretense-of-Law" is what we have now.

People at all class levels have come to understand that the police will not protect them. The job of the police and the courts is to enforce the orders of the rulers. They do that fairly well. But we have too many insane and evil rulers. They do not want to be restrained by laws.

That is why the vigilante narrative is becoming increasingly popular; never mind the the horrendous abuses of that narrative that are certain to result. The system will not protect you but maybe your neighbors can.

Or maybe not. I am a little unsure about some of my neighbors. Maybe I would be better off to just leave them all alone and keep a low profile. I highly recommend that plan.

You want to prevent murders done the name of the Vigilance Committee? You want a return Rule of Law? It will require a purge of the entire legislative, judicial, and police system to do that. And very likely that will require a purge of our current rulers.

Scolding those who jump on the Vigilante Narrative is insufficient to fix the problem. The breakdown of law and order is what causes Vigilantes to look appealing.

102 posted on 07/21/2021 6:04:14 PM PDT by flamberge (Time has run out. Work with what you've got.)
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To: flamberge
Fixed it for ya. Scolding those who jumping on the Vigilante Narrative is insufficient to fix the problem.
103 posted on 07/21/2021 6:14:04 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Fixed it for ya...

Well, that looks like an improvement of sorts. Both of the"answers" to the question are wrong anyway. I can freely admit that I am still looking for workable solutions in a time Without Rule Of Law. ("WROL"). I am not finding much.

What have ya got?

I plan to give the local Vigilance Committee a very wide berth myself. They will likely be run by the Socialist Antifa and BLM sympathizers that helped cause the problems in the first place.

It won't upset me much if they turn their guns on each other after making all kinds of slanderous, vile, and false accusations about their rivals. I will be very quiet in the background and I will not be cheering for anybody.

I am not placing much of a bet on Rule-of-Law anymore. It was nice while it lasted. Maybe a new generation can restore that. Those people are ten years old right now. It would behoove us to protect them from predators.

And "some people just need killin' ".

"None of the above" is always a valid selection in a multiple choice question.


104 posted on 07/21/2021 6:51:00 PM PDT by flamberge (Time has run out. Work with what you've got.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Whatever the facts of him being beaten are, he was a career criminal. Could be one of his past victims took him out:

“Raynor had 24 arrests to his name, but his record did not suggest a history of pedophilia, sources said.”


105 posted on 07/21/2021 7:54:40 PM PDT by dynachrome ("I will not be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: Magnum44

Been done way before that movie. Art imitating life.


106 posted on 07/21/2021 7:58:20 PM PDT by CJ Wolf ( what is scarier than offensive words? Not being able to say them...God wins. Trump always wins. . )
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To: DJ MacWoW

I keep telling you that it is now a fact of life. I don’t like it. But here we are. You keep acting as though that is an attempt at justifying it. It is not. It is acknowledging a distasteful reality. Can’t you get your head around that?

If everyone were starving, cannibalism would be a fact of life, too.

I wish the police were not defunded, and that the courts had discretion or used the discretion that they have more effectively, so that the ordinary people who follow the rules could feel safe following them. Then there would be no vigilantes beating people to death on Staten Island. They’d only do it in Brooklyn and the South Bronx, and then just for fun, not as vigilantes, per se. As it is, this is probably going to spread like wildfire. Pay attention to Broad Channel, the second most conservative area in NYC. Then Flatlands, and then it’ll be Charles Bronson’s NYC.


107 posted on 07/22/2021 4:56:03 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (不要相信中国。中国是个混蛋 "don't trust China. China is azzhoe" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hicC53AhZ6Y)
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To: dynachrome

Whatever his merits or demerits, at this point what difference does it make? He’s dead. No trial. No evidence presentable at a trial. No right to counsel or appeal. Just a couple of gumbahs with baseball bats or crowbars. Too late to presume he’s innocent even.


108 posted on 07/22/2021 5:59:19 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (不要相信中国。中国是个混蛋 "don't trust China. China is azzhoe" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hicC53AhZ6Y)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Considering the state of the current judicial system, it sounds like an un-indicted pedophile is worried that he won't be able to skate out from under punishment by trusting a corrupt system. If the System functions, and pedophilia wasn't just another lifestyle choice...

Just saying. Knew one in the Family. None of the parents would let their children get anywhere near him, and the excuse was always, "You don't understand..."

109 posted on 07/22/2021 4:03:07 PM PDT by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Sounds like justice.


110 posted on 07/23/2021 8:56:39 AM PDT by Impy ("We didn't steal the election, we swear!!!" - Sincerely, The Election Thieves )
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