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'Black Boxes' to be Mandatory for Cars in Europe from 2022, Here's What They Will Record
https://www.news18.com ^ | 6/21/2021 | .news18.com

Posted on 06/20/2021 10:10:53 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19

om July 6, 2022, auto manufacturers will be obliged to fit new models destined for the European market with a kind of “black box" for recording technical data — data that can then be used in the event of an accident. But what data is involved, and who will have access to it?

The European Union intends to have all new cars fitted with new data recording systems similar to the famous “black boxes" used on aircraft. The idea is to gain access to a set of specific technical data relating to the seconds preceding collisions, of varying degrees of severity. This applies to all categories of cars (passenger cars and utility vehicles), but not yet to two-wheeled motor vehicles. Note that only law enforcement officials will be authorized to access this data, when necessary, and not insurance companies.

The data involved notably includes the vehicle’s speed, braking, steering wheel angle, its incline on the road, and whether the vehicle’s various safety systems were in operation, starting with seatbelts. The system will also make it possible to identify the precise type of vehicle and to provide feedback to manufacturers about incidents of concern.

All data is promised to be anonymized, in that the data will not include the vehicle identification number or any other information that could identify the vehicle owner. And, unlike aircraft black box flight recorders, no cockpit conversations will be recorded!

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KEYWORDS: automotive; eu; europe; privacy; spying
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1 posted on 06/20/2021 10:10:53 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19
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To: RomanSoldier19

The new improved model?


2 posted on 06/20/2021 10:14:32 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this?)
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To: RomanSoldier19

“Note that only law enforcement officials will be authorized to access this data, when necessary, and not insurance companies.”

For how long?


3 posted on 06/20/2021 10:16:04 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Just because I coughed on you does not mean that I have covid. It means that we have covid. )
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To: RomanSoldier19

This tech has been in US market cars since 2000 but there has been no standard on how to access it or what is recorded and for what period of time. All the Euros are doing is making auto manufactures standardize on all of those, just like the US OBD-II standard made manufacturers standardize on basic diagnostics.


4 posted on 06/20/2021 10:17:11 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Also, the reason why this tech appeared back in 2000 was all those lawsuit lotto liability filings against US manufacturers about failed brakes (where it really was the driver’s fault) and the like - not LEO/government interference. Manufacturers included crash data recording in their car ECUs to protect themselves against frivolous lawsuits.


5 posted on 06/20/2021 10:21:17 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Jonty30

Huge relief – only people who can legally imprison and kill you will know where you’ve been and where you’re going.


6 posted on 06/20/2021 10:21:25 PM PDT by libertasbella
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TransSec Butgigger wants to do the same thing in the US.


7 posted on 06/20/2021 10:29:29 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: RomanSoldier19

Reminds me of the joke about the difference between the last words on a black box recording on a truck crashed by someone from the northern US vs southern US. Northern US drivers yell “Oh crap” and the southern guy says “Hold muh beer and watch this.... “....lol


8 posted on 06/20/2021 10:30:40 PM PDT by copaliscrossing (The truth is always your friend.)
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9 posted on 06/20/2021 10:42:20 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19 (Game over, man! Game over! ; : rem ad triarios redisse is)
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To: RomanSoldier19

I was in the market for a newer vehicle. BUT... Nah. For the 20k budget I had I can do a heck of a lot of cool stuff to my 20 year old beater.


10 posted on 06/20/2021 11:21:16 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

If you’re not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to hide.


11 posted on 06/20/2021 11:23:18 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (Religion. It's like a History class. Without the facts. )
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To: Jonty30
“Note that only law enforcement officials will be authorized to access this data, when necessary, and not insurance companies.” For how long?

As soon as they meet the minimum buyin amount they'll have access!
Like all things this will be another highest bidder wins!
12 posted on 06/20/2021 11:24:12 PM PDT by 100%FEDUP (I'm seeing RED!)
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To: RomanSoldier19

The internet will be full of people posting hacks and overrides within a week.


13 posted on 06/20/2021 11:28:44 PM PDT by howlinhound (Live your life so that, when you get up in the morning, Satan says, "Oh Crap!..He's awake" - Unknown)
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To: libertasbella
Huge relief – only people who can legally imprison and kill you will know where you’ve been and where you’re going.

And then they can ticket you for speeding, using your cell phone, not wearing your seatbelt, having a broken tail light, a bad smog check (California) What could possibly go wrong? 🤗

14 posted on 06/21/2021 12:16:56 AM PDT by Mark17 (Father of US Air Force combat pilot )
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To: RomanSoldier19

They will record everything.

Don’t expect to have any private conversations in the car as you travel.


15 posted on 06/21/2021 12:56:05 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith.)
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To: Jonty30

It’s irrelevant who is *authorized* to access the data.

That never stopped the government from abusing its power and accessing the data anyways.


16 posted on 06/21/2021 12:57:31 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith.)
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To: Veggie Todd
If you’re not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to hide.

It doesn’t matter if you’re not doing something wrong.

If Big Brother is after you, they will find something.

So you’re really OK with someone monitoring and tracking your every move just because you think they have nothing on you?

I don’t.

I have nothing to hide and I *DO NOT* want them surveilling my every move.

17 posted on 06/21/2021 1:02:01 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith.)
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To: Jonty30
The system will also make it possible to identify the precise type of vehicle and to provide feedback to manufacturers about incidents of concern.

Who will then share it with insurance companies.

18 posted on 06/21/2021 3:10:01 AM PDT by NativeSon ( )
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To: RomanSoldier19
IIRC at least some late model cars have black boxes here in the US. I've read that data from these boxes have been used in court cases.Unlike some people I'm a very conservative driver.Speed control set at the speed limit...right lane on the interstate...and I don't drink at all. If I ever collide with another car I want the cops to be able to see how fast we were both going...among other things.
19 posted on 06/21/2021 3:32:47 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Trump: "They're After You. I'm Just In The Way")
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To: Veggie Todd

Said every tyrant ever


20 posted on 06/21/2021 3:44:15 AM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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