Posted on 03/03/2021 12:33:03 PM PST by rxsid
Mike Pence Breaks His Silence on Election
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Too little too late… we don’t want to hear it…
Former Vice President Pence on Wednesday criticized the 2020 election in his his first extended written comments since leaving office in January.
Pence said there were “significant voting irregularities” and “numerous instances of officials setting aside state election law” in the 2020 presidential election.
The remarks were offered by Pence in an op-ed published by the Daily Signal, a publication run by the conservative Heritage Foundation. The context was an attack on H.R. 1, a voting rights bill the House is expected to pass on Wednesday, that Pence said would “increase opportunities for election fraud.”
" “Many of the most troubling voting irregularities took place in states that set aside laws enacted by state legislatures in favor of sweeping changes ordered by governors, secretaries of state, and courts.”“While legislators in many states have begun work on election reform to restore public confidence in state elections, unfortunately, congressional Democrats have chosen to sweep those valid concerns and reforms aside and to push forward a brazen attempt to nationalize elections in blatant disregard of the U.S. Constitution.”
Hey, if you’re wanting to initiate armed rebellion against the United States of America, that’s on you. I don’t support that. Jim has asked that we not use his site to plan or discuss those kinds of things so he doesn’t have to deal with visits from the FBI anymore.
Mike Pence is political History to this American family...
Will never vote for or give him any support...
He failed our POTUS, who picked him in the dust and gave him a great job...and he failed DJT...
ENOUGH SAID....
The Supreme court has long held that no clause of the constitution may be read as having no effect.
Your claim that the Vice President has no authority to do or change anything reads the clause in such a way as to have no effect.
Therefore your reading of the law is wrong on the face of it. Yes, the Vice President *CAN* decide which votes are invalid, else he has no actual role in the counting.
Spoken like the truly sanctimonious deep-state product that he is...
Exactly right. If the Vice President could control which sets of electors were deemed legitimate, Nixon would have become President in 1961, Humphrey would have become President in 1969, and Gore would have become President in 2001.
See, this is the biggest problem with having these discussions: they require that we all know the facts. The VP does not count the votes. The House and Senate tellers do.
"This implicitly gives him the authority to decide what is a vote and what is not a vote."
So you think that the tellers of the House and Senate have the authority to unilaterally decide who the President of the United States is? That's a scary thought.
Which base?
I am reminded of what Benjamin Franklin said.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
You are going to get Anarchy.
Thank goodness the Constitution isn’t your opinion.......
Pence Presided over a joint session of Congress, he was actively hearing and accepting Objections to Electors.
That process was hijacked by the Capitol being occupied by a bunch of Q Followers who were led by Antifa members posing as MAGA supporters.
Want to blame someone?? Blame Anons.
Pence was following the Constitution.
If a Democrat V.P. was going to reject electors Willy-Nilly like you wanted Pence to do.......your outrage would be massive.
Humphrey would have had to show up for that to happen.
Incidentally, for those who claimed Pence not showing up would have caused some different outcome, just need to look at 1969 with Hubert Humphrey to know that’s not the case. VP doesn’t show up? President pro tempore of the Senate stands up and opens the certificates.
Remember what happened to the Whigs? Now we will do the same to the Wusses.
The older Republican voters are more willing to be sympathetic to the Wusses. They made their money before the Chinacrats had a chance to screw their generation. But the younger ones have really gotten screwed. And there’s still plenty of Boomer Conservatives who maintain the rebellious spirit of hippies and punk rockers (like me), who are eager to clean house.
To all those who insisted that Trump was too impolite for the Oval office, they can all choke on the likes of Lauren Boebert, MTG, and hopefully, many more like them in the future.
It's because the vast majority of fraud occurred in black controlled cities, and they were terrified that the news liars would paint them as "racists" for questioning these ridiculous vote totals coming out of black controlled cities.
So, as predicted, you’re here to endorse the scamdemic narrative, the vaccine, and the steal. Your screen name does not fool.
If he said, "These states had fraudulent votes and I will not accept them as valid", people would have screamed and the entire media hate machine would have been unleashed on him, but what then would have happened?
If they count the votes without his consent, you get a constitutional crises, because that is clearly a violation.
It would have attracted necessary attention to the issue, and it would have put a proper taint on this government if he got overruled somehow by the rest of the Senate.
It would have put an asterisk in the history books about how the election was regarded as fraudulent.
And it might even possibly have attracted enough attention that it gets fixed.
Absolutely right. It's unfortunate how many are ready to throw out the rule of law to achieve a desired result. They sound just like the people on the left during Bush v Gore.
I support the United States Constitution and the rule of law.
You support the claims of a nut who says that light bulbs cause school shootings and everyone should sleep on the ground.
Says you. I disagree. If the only role is to open envelops, it does not require a Vice President to do it. Anyone could do it because it makes no difference who does it.
You read the article as having no effect, and the Supreme Court has long held that you cannot read any article of the Constitution as having no effect.
The Requirement to have the Vice President implicitly grants power to his office. He is not a letter opener, he is a decider of validity.
Granted, it would have taken resolve, but all Pence had to do was to say he wasn't going to count the votes into the record because of those questions. To allow the states the time they requested.
Then, 1 of 3 things would happen:
1) The congress proceeds anyway...without Pence. That would go against the law since 3 U.S. Code § 15 says the President of the Senate "shall be their presiding officer." The President of the Senate is also supposed to be the one to open the votes. The President of the Senate is also the one to call for objections.
Who would take his place? Would anybody? And, under what authority would they take his place?
Without a President of the Senate in place, as required by law, it would have made Xiden's installment as "president" even more illegitimate.
Just like the requirement to have the Chief Justice preside over the impeachment trial of a President. His absence made the "trial" even more illegal, the ramifications of which aren't going to be immediately realized but are on the historical record now.
Or...
2) It would have triggered an immediate showdown at SCOTUS. Do they deny the states the opportunity to resubmit electors? Do they demand Pence resume his duties? What if he doesn't?
Or...
3) The congress delay's the counting until the states either re-affirm their votes, or send a new slate.
The point being, Pence wasn't powerless.
That's not his decision to make.
As others have pointed out on this thread, the VP of the United States has no authority to meddle in state election affairs.
Watch what happens when Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer seize this opportunity to nationalize our elections and take the election proceedings out of the hands of state legislatures -- you know, to "fix things." Then you'll get exactly what you are wishing for ... but then it will be too late for you to figure out that it's NOT what you want.
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