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COVID-19 Vaccinations in the United States (8 Feb, as of 06:00 AM ET)
CDC ^ | 8 Feb 2021 | CDC

Posted on 02/08/2021 10:56:51 AM PST by BeauBo

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To: doc maverick

Thank you doc. from a fellow clinician. Have posted since last February to help people here understand the coronavirus mechanism of action/infection. The prevention and therapeutic standards that brings natural immunity into the 99% range even for over 65 at risk people (not as well for those with concomitant pulmonary deficits/disease or heart disease, etc).

The mRNA is what bothers. And the reality that a “new variant” is being pumped to the public in Europe is said to have different S-Proteins and on and on. That said- am convinced this was/is a weaponized virus from the Chinese military, unleashed on the world (who would never admit to it being by accident... even if it was) and which first killed 65K Uyghers in a slave labor camp on the Mongolian border. Patient zero discovered by accident by our own CDC influenza statisticians in Guangdong- 500 miles from Wuhan.


41 posted on 02/08/2021 12:57:48 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: AU72

The point made. These are undifferentiated.


42 posted on 02/08/2021 1:03:00 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Grampa Dave; Jane Long

“Covid cases nationally in free fall”

I think a few major factors are contributing:

- Passing the natural seasonal peak for this virus (more than half of coronaviruses are seasonal)

- Growing immunity from those who have already been exposed (perhaps 100 million in the USA, most of whom had no symptoms)

- The vaccine program (which will grow into the dominant/decisive factor)

- There may be some additional reservoir of pre-existing cross-immunity from other coronaviruses (which could explain why so many are asymptomatic)

- The recent (literally on Inauguration Day) guidance to reduce the sensitivity of the PCR tests, used to detect/diagnose new COVID-19 cases.

The end of cold & flu season in April coincides with when we expect to have first shots into 100 million people (the threshold at which Operation Warp Speed projected significant disease control would occur), and when a flood of new vaccine producers are expected to increase supply (J&J, AstraZeneca, Novavax).

Cases, hospitalizations and deaths should collapse below the levels of serious Public Health concern; removing objective justification for any kind of lockdown restrictions, masks, etc..


43 posted on 02/08/2021 1:21:38 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo

I agree with MOST, but not all, of your major contributing factors. ;-)


44 posted on 02/08/2021 1:30:31 PM PST by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation πŸ™πŸ»πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ)
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To: bert

“I’ve had two.”

Now you could eat COVID for breakfast...


45 posted on 02/08/2021 1:31:00 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: 1Old Pro

Oops, I forgot to add you to post#43, for your interest.


46 posted on 02/08/2021 1:32:47 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: Jane Long

“I agree with MOST, but not all, of your major contributing factors.”

Which ones do you not agree with?


47 posted on 02/08/2021 1:33:47 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo

This one...

....- The vaccine program (which will grow into the dominant/decisive factor)...

Dominant/decisive factor, or what? Maybe that will clarify the point.

All the rest are spot on. πŸ‘πŸΌ


48 posted on 02/08/2021 1:37:20 PM PST by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation πŸ™πŸ»πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ)
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To: BeauBo

Yep, should be free by Independence Day.


49 posted on 02/08/2021 1:38:35 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: BeauBo

Covid is a LIE, it is a HOAX, it is the FLU!!!

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) stands accused of violating federal law by inflating Coronavirus fatality numbers, according to stunning information obtained by NATIONAL FILE.

https://nationalfile.com/busted-cdc-inflated-covid-numbers-accused-of-violating-federal-law/


50 posted on 02/08/2021 2:13:01 PM PST by afchief
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To: Grampa Dave

Being adversely affected by the vaccine appears to be happening more frequently than hitting the jackpot in a lottery. Those odds don’t look too enticing to me what causes my opposition to being vaccinated against something which has a high survival rating for one and knowing that I can improve my odds even further by other ways and means which are not only beneficial to my health but also will make the human body more resistant and shake off this virus more easily, without taking a chance that it may adversely affect my health. But by all means, if this vaccine happens to be your cup of tea by all means go to it. Three or four years down the road, should it turn out that these QUICK concocted vaccines is the way of the future and have the same safety record as some of the vaccines produced the old fashioned way I may consider it.


51 posted on 02/08/2021 2:20:09 PM PST by saintgermaine (THE TIME TRAVELLER )
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To: saintgermaine

Pure BS!


52 posted on 02/08/2021 2:21:31 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Law & order took the last train out of DC & America on election/coup/night, Tuesday, Nov. 03, 2020!!)
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To: Jane Long

“The vaccine program (which will grow into the dominant/decisive factor)”

1. The vaccine program is targeted/prioritized.

Unlike the more random process of natural exposures in the wild, vaccinations will disproportionally provide immunity to those most likely to die or be hospitalized from the disease - the elderly, and those with co-morbidities.

Deaths and hospital utilization are the driving Public Health concerns that (rationally) drive the recommendations for restricting business and personal freedom. Without them, COVID is less of a concern than flu, which does not warrant such restrictions.

For example, residents of Long Term Care Facilities (Nursing Homes) accounted for over 40% of reported COVID-19 fatalities. In December and January, the overwhelming majority of those residents, as well the staff and support at those facilities, have gotten their first shots, and we are wrapping up seconds. That population is moving off the table quickly, removing a lot of the problem.

Prioritization is moving down the list, systematically removing the most vulnerable from being at risk.

2. The vaccination program is massive.

We are running about a million new first shots per day, on average. That means that a month later, those folks move off the table, from an epidemiological perspective. That will inexorably grind down the replication rate of the virus in the wild, to herd immunity.

It will sink down to become just another endemic case of sniffles/coughs that kids go through as part of growing up.

The USA has about 55 million residents over 65. It will take about two months at current rates, to get them their first shots, and another month to wrap up the seconds.

When that population moves off the table (including the smaller number of serious co-morbidities under 65), it is pretty much ball game, from a serious Public Health perspective - no further objective rationale for lockdown restrictions (politics is a separate issue).

Operation Warp Speed issued Defense Procurement Act contracts to Pfizer for 200 million doses by the end of July (at least 170 million by the end of June). Moderna has contracts to deliver 200 million by the end of June. Johnson & Johnson is on contract for 100 million (single dose) shots. Collectively, that approaches enough to vaccinate everyone in the USA who wants it, or might be cajoled into taking it.

But Novavax is also on contract for 100 million. Astra Zeneca is on contract for 300 million. Other contracts may or may not be canceled, like the GSK Sanofi (French) candidate, that does not seem to be hitting the effectiveness goals. But the bottom line is that a flood of vaccine, more than enough to do the job, is coming over the next few months.

Not everyone will accept the vaccine (perhaps a third might refuse), but the combination of the widespread vaccination (herd immunity - 2/3rds of the population off the table), and the effective targeting of the vulnerable, is going to effectively end COVID as an objective Public Health issue in the next few months.

It is already paid for in appropriations, and on contract.


53 posted on 02/08/2021 2:31:42 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: Jane Long

Yep. That’s why Israel has seen great improvements in those 60+.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-israel-idUSKBN2A4283


54 posted on 02/08/2021 2:32:56 PM PST by MarMema
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To: Grampa Dave

Actually not.

Some stats indicate 1/100,000 have adverse reactions or death.

Those are indeed lower odds than most all major lotteries.

Statically speaking.

It’s ok that you choose to vax.
...and it’s ok that others choose not to vax.
Freedom of choice

Nobody should be enraged by the personal choices of another man to the level of profanity

Kind like “is ok to be white”
...and it is!


55 posted on 02/08/2021 2:34:13 PM PST by SheepWhisperer (My enemy saw me on my knees, head bowed and thought they had won until I rose up and said Amen!)
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To: BeauBo

We will have to agree to disagree, about this experimental ‘vax’.....and, await any longterm effects...positive, or adverse.

Thx.


56 posted on 02/08/2021 2:36:26 PM PST by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation πŸ™πŸ»πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ)
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To: afchief

Get some help for that delusion. This virus took down Italy in a big way. I was reading about it on an international medicine forum at the time.

So anyway, good luck. That’s one serious delusion.


57 posted on 02/08/2021 2:36:50 PM PST by MarMema
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To: SheepWhisperer; Grampa Dave

It’s ok that you choose to vax.
...and it’s ok that others choose not to vax.
Freedom of choice

Nobody should be enraged by the personal choices of another man to the level of profanity

Kind like β€œis ok to be white”
...and it is!


Agree, 100%!!


58 posted on 02/08/2021 2:38:17 PM PST by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation πŸ™πŸ»πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ)
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To: MarMema

El Reuters?

Mmmm...no thanks.

I’ll stick with my original reason.

And, yes, even for other countries, too.

It’s a big Pharma club....and, I don’t care to subscribe...but....you, please, go right ahead!


59 posted on 02/08/2021 2:40:16 PM PST by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation πŸ™πŸ»πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ)
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To: Jane Long

Already did.


60 posted on 02/08/2021 2:43:18 PM PST by MarMema
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