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TIME Claims a Secret Cabal Manipulated the 2020 Election to Stop Trump, and People Have Questions
https://redstate.com ^ | Feb 05, 2021 9:45 AM ET | Bonchie

Posted on 02/05/2021 7:16:29 AM PST by Red Badger

This seems like the sort of thing you don’t say out loud but, like a serial killer, many in politics are just too absorbed in their own egos to not try to take credit for their deeds.

TIME wrote a very interesting piece making some very alarming claims. Namely, that a secret cabal banded together across the country to stop Donald Trump from winning re-election. This included everything from manipulating media coverage to getting election laws changed, at least according to TIME’s account.

Wat https://t.co/GiKXiWGduD pic.twitter.com/h0Z9yrPETf

— Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) February 5, 2021

If you had said this out loud on Twitter a few months ago, it would have gotten you banned. https://t.co/hub7XtzKfh

— Mark Hemingway (@Heminator) February 5, 2021

Yeah, this seems like a pretty big deal to me, and nakedly undemocratic, at least if you care about that sort of thing. Politics is inherently manipulative on some level, I suppose, but working to change election laws and quenching the flow of information to affect an election is a bit past your typical bluster on the stump.

Of course, none of this is especially groundbreaking to those who have been paying attention. For all the chatter about “dark money” and “interfering in elections,” it’s always been those on the left (and that includes the “right-wing” Chamber of Commerce mentioned here) who have had a no holds barred approach to winning. Given the control over popular culture, financial institutions, and political influence operations that the left wields, it’s hardly shocking they’d use every lever to defeat Trump.

Yet, the hypocrisy is still a bit much. We dealt with four years of hyperventilating about Russia and Facebook posts from anti-Trump forces, yet the reality of who is truly interfering in our elections hits much closer to home. The actions listed in the TIME article are also far, far more consequential and dangerous to free and fair elections.

I just want to say that it is the opposite of Democracy when a secret cabal of wealthy and politically connected elites conspire to manipulate the rules and laws of an election in order to win

But shit, not like this is a new storyhttps://t.co/RvTT0Kx8IX

— Tim Pool (@Timcast) February 5, 2021

No matter, this secret cabal isn’t made up of imaginary Russians so it’s all good. The left truly only care about election interference and manipulation when they deem it a threat to their own preferred outcomes. Otherwise, they are all for it. You won’t see the mainstream media decry this. You won’t see a tearful lament from Nancy Pelosi about the dangers it poses to our republic. Rather, this will all be ignored. Heck, it’ll be celebrated as a brilliant political strategy.

And while I’m sure some fact-checker will have qualms with me describing what this group did as manipulation, I believe the objective definition of that word more than applies here. When you seek to stop people from having information that could affect their vote, that’s manipulation. When you go and lobby to get certain laws changed specifically to help your side, that’s manipulation. It is what it is.

Meanwhile, Republicans can get in the game or get busy losing again.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1621; bideneffect; bloggers; cabal; deepstate; democrats; election2020; electionfraud; fortified; fraud; joestolen; loudobbs; mypillow; neilcavuto; newsmax; republicans; stolenelection; stopthesteal; timemagazine; trump; trump2020; voterfraud
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To: LS

Besides aged Nazis, do you have any examples of history catching up with such people?

I think I’ve mostly heard stories with the opposite outcome:

Aged 60s radicals who admit they blew things up and probably killed people, and for that they get to write books about it and teach at Harvard.

Or aged Japanese officers who ran cruel prisoner of war camps and then in their old age they become best buddies with the aged US or British prisoners of war they abused.

It seems like most people are suckers for a good “forgiveness in old age” story (except Nazis).


141 posted on 02/07/2021 12:40:09 PM PST by enumerated
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To: Red Badger

a little late but about time...


142 posted on 02/07/2021 1:17:57 PM PST by heavy metal (your reward will be in heaven not on your paycheck...)
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To: LS

There will certainly be a reckoning.

If not in this life, then in the next.


143 posted on 02/07/2021 4:34:48 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Red Badger

The Article is trying to say they were justified to commit Treason and Sedition to save the nation. And ultimately they stole the election to remove a President they did not like.

Under careful examination it won’t hold water at all.

What we witnessed was a 4+ year coup financed and enabled by several Foreign Countries and by their supporters inside the US government. For the foreign nations and International Officials, this was an ACT OF WAR.

And those who were US citizens who supported the position of the foreign powers are guilty of TREASON.

Those public officials who were involved in the plot are guilty of violating their own oath of office to Protect and Defend the US Constitution.

Nothing will change this. There is no longer a dispute about what was actually done.

Some now admit their own Treason, and say it was “justified” to save the nation. Smoke em.


144 posted on 02/07/2021 4:48:52 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: enumerated

Yeah. History caught up with both Napoleon and the Bourbons good and hard. The French Revolutionaries didn’t wait long for history to catch up with them.

The USSR got a life extension thanks to Hitler, or the commies would have been out of business probably by 1960.

Japan? Really? The nation was flattened, its people radiated and forced to abandon their entire way of life and religion.

You could even go here: the Jews who got Jesus crucified by the Romans themselves were forced to eat their own children just 40 years later.


145 posted on 02/07/2021 4:56:27 PM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix) )
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To: LS

Thanks Larry,

Food for thought...


146 posted on 02/07/2021 5:08:28 PM PST by enumerated
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To: LS

A bit of a tangent - but I have been thinking lately about WWII - the Germans and the Japs - a half a world apart.

They simultaneously decide to take over the world. What a coinkydink!! ....what else did they have in common?

Russia. They were both on either end of Russia...like bookends.

I’m not going to defend Hitler, but maybe he and the Japs both got played by the Russians...

What do you think?


147 posted on 02/07/2021 5:19:44 PM PST by enumerated
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148 posted on 02/08/2021 9:04:11 AM PST by PMAS (Vote with your wallets, there are 80 million of us - No Amazon, No Chy-Na made )
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To: Red Badger

I heard about this on Levin last week. TIME put out this article? TIME magazine? What?


149 posted on 02/08/2021 11:19:29 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free equal justice under the law will never exist in the USA)
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To: sevinufnine

That was certainly my take—— the guy even looks the part.


150 posted on 02/08/2021 12:53:23 PM PST by Segovia
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To: rollo tomasi

So this “cabal” got Republican led legislatures to change laws and people are blaming lobbyists (Which this “cabal” are anyway) instead of the Republican leadership?

The majority leaders of the legislatures should of told the “cabal” to “take a hike”.
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No in the articles I read and the show Levin had on the issue, it was not the legislature that changed the rules, it was Democrat Secretaries of State, Activist Judges, and local election boards funded by Zuckerberg and setting up their counting according to Zuck’s instructions.

So the legislature’s rules were not followed.


151 posted on 02/08/2021 4:40:43 PM PST by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: greeneyes
Not in Pennsylvania because the State legislature left ambiguous language that allowed the Gov and SOS to act (Even Republican on the Penn Court had to concede that, read the opinion/ruling), also State legislatures were doing back-flips accommodating mail-in voting, several before the Covid lock-down. Please explain that.

These lobbyists *cough* *cough* cabal *cough* were working as soon as Clinton lost in 2016. Trump stepped on a lot of powerful individuals' toes and these powerful people did use legislatures to reach their end goal of pushing Trump out of office. Factions are not illegal in the US and the First Amendment gives this *cabal* the right to exploit every weakness/ambiguous laws that exist.

To solve this problem, you must recognize this and "fill in the holes" by calling/lobbying for clear enumerations in all 3 Branches of Federal/State (You live in) laws that promote clean elections. That was not done and the democrats along with the republicans who wanted Trump gone took advantage.
152 posted on 02/09/2021 6:10:14 AM PST by rollo tomasi
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To: rollo tomasi

Well, I don’t recall all the details exactly nor which state was which, but I did watch a number of the legislative hearings and Levin’s programs, and other articles and Videos and it seemed pretty clear at the time.

But IIRC, there was also a question of times as in election day ends on Tuesday at 8pm ET, but officials decided to extend it to 5pm ET on Friday.

Was the law also unclear on that?

And there was a judge, IIRC in PA that ordered a temporary injunction, because the case was likely to succeed on the merits, but the Dems did not allow that hearing by going around the judge directly to their Demonrat Dominated Supreme Court-who said you are too late to complain.

I am not a lawyer, so I defer to Mark Levin and the Appellate judge who seemed to have some courage on those particulars in PA.

But I took your complaint about legislators to be an indictment of all the legislatures in those 6 states. And certainly there was a lot of stuff that went on that was violations of law and even court orders, so plenty of blame to go around.


153 posted on 02/09/2021 7:25:45 AM PST by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: rollo tomasi
Not in Pennsylvania because the State legislature left ambiguous language that allowed the Gov and SOS to act (Even Republican on the Penn Court had to concede that, read the opinion/ruling)

The legislature did not require signatures to be matched?

154 posted on 02/09/2021 10:38:29 PM PST by lasereye
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To: Red Badger

later


155 posted on 02/10/2021 12:48:10 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Trump: "They're After You. I'm Just In The Way")
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To: lasereye
No exactly, that provision was not enumerated in when revisions for ACT 77 in 2019 and ACT 12 in 2020 were made. ACT 77 also shifted a lot of power to the Executive Branch because of "expediency" which they used to water down the signature checks.

In general, the Legislative Branch foolishly ceases control over to the Executive Branch time and time again which created the "Deep State" in the first place. So "Draining the Swamp" is akin to destroying the legislature and create another Continental Congress or start amending the Constitution six ways to Sundays starting with enumerating the Necessary and Proper clause which is the epicenter in the creation of "The Deep State of Doom" "Swamp" or what ever you want to call it, Administrative Law is the official name.
156 posted on 02/12/2021 7:27:14 AM PST by rollo tomasi
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To: Red Badger; Mr. Jeeves

It is showing the public clearly that the President of the United States is a figurehead with no real power. When Trump tried to assert his, the entire government teamed up to stop him...and put in this dementia patient, who does just what he is told.

posted on 2/19/2021, 5:02:57 PM by Mr. Jeeves


157 posted on 02/19/2021 5:34:48 PM PST by Grampa Dave (History, as we know it, is written by the winners not the losers! Who is rewriting our history??)
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To: Red Badger; Mr. Jeeves

It is showing the public clearly that the President of the United States is a figurehead with no real power. When Trump tried to assert his, the entire government teamed up to stop him...and put in this dementia patient, who does just what he is told.

posted on 2/19/2021, 5:02:57 PM by Mr. Jeeves


158 posted on 02/19/2021 5:51:06 PM PST by Grampa Dave (History, as we know it, is written by the winners not the losers! Who is rewriting our history??)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

If Trump doesn’t read all of t his article (it’s long) and digest every piece of it he will lose again. We are are facing a takeover of the USA that the people cannot fight. It a tangled web that was orchestrated by many different factions. It will take a full understanding of what they did and a genius to unravel all the pieces. Trump would be the only person who might be able to do that. He’s the only genius I know of who knows enough about the deadly system we face.


159 posted on 02/27/2021 8:55:11 AM PST by WVNan
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To: Reno89519

The whole article is very long but must be read through in order to see the complex machine set up to defeat Trump.


160 posted on 02/27/2021 8:57:06 AM PST by WVNan
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