Posted on 02/01/2021 4:39:27 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
I could care less what the intestinal parasites of a defunct congress do or don’t do Trump is my president come hell or high water.
Who needs the obsolete shell that was the White House.
Let the hosebags and thumbsuckers do what they will nothing will come of it - we’ll still burn their azzes down.
” I also think this is an unwise defense”
I agree. There’s plenty of time to put together the evidence of fraud”
If I was Trump
I wouldn’t even bother showing up to this nonsense
I would not even enter a defense
It is bogus, why dignify it with a response?
Thank you for pointing that out. That is the important point that many miss, the wording about election fraud is in the impeachment documents from Pelosi. If it’s there, then Trump can address election fraud all he wants, and I agree that legally Leahy cannot deny it.
Maybe this is why Lindsay Graham was begging Biden to call off Pelosi on the impeachment issue when he appeared on Hannity. Graham said something like ‘God help is all’ if the impeachment goes through in the House, likely because Graham knows the election of Biden is a fraud.
I’ve thought the same thing.
It would drive them even more out of their minds than they already are.
What could be better than that?
“Seems to me that if the charge is “inciting a riot” and the defense is “They cheated and I am the rightful president” it’s almost an admission that inciting a riot seems like a fine and justified action.”
That’s probably true.
BUT the election fraud could be used to show WHY so many showed up and were so angry. They did not need Trump doing anything to protest. It’s the fraud - and democrats and republicans that did it - that caused the protedt.
If we get to this point in the charade(iffy hypothetical, IMHO), should go for the Mother of examples, the dominion tweaking of millions of votes from the Vatican, thru the Leonardi satellites. The one that led to a blackout, arrest of top Italian, and now fall of the Italian government.
I knew Kelly was a massive mistake and probably a deep state plant when Bannon was forced out. Steve Bannon was the best thing Trump had in the Whitehouse.
Leahy isn’t going to allow it. This is so predictable.
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My fear as well. I’ve been posting that concern for some time now but hoping I’m wrong. Here is what I understand.
1. Senator Leahy has been sworn in as the Presiding Officer for the Senate Trial.
2. Senator Leahy CANNOT be sworn in with the 99 other Senators. He can not vote.
3. This gives the Republicans a narrow 50 to 49 advantage for votes related to process including the admissibility of evidence and witnesses. If there is even one defection (It will be Romney) then we lose.
4. Leahy can rule that evidence or witnesses are inadmissible for any reason or no reason at all. If he does then any Senator can demand a vote to reverse that decision. The Dems and Romney can validate the decision.
5. If Leahy slips up and allow evidence or a witness that the Dems don’t like, they can force a vote and, once again, the Dems and Romney can have their way.
I’m hoping it doesn’t go this way, that there is some Senate rule that would prevent it. But right now, I think it is possible.
The resolution states: "President Trump gravely endangered the security of the United States and its institutions of Government.
He threatened the integrity of the democratic system, interfered with the peaceful transition of power, and imperiled
a coequal branch of Government. He thereby betrayed his trust as President, to the manifest injury of the people of the United States."
This is not a court. It never acts like a court.
Pres. Trump can state FACTS in his defense as an example: 200,000 more votes were cast in PA that there are voters on the voter roll, 63,000 votes were cast by persons not yet of voting age in Georgia, 163,000 votes were cast in Arizona by non- citizens. The setting up of a two tier voting system by Zuckerberg’s $350 to $400 MILLION infusion into 10+ counties in “swing states”. Those are facts and there are many more.
Take your case to the people President Trump. Why argue the number of angels on the head of a pinhead?
This is not really a court. Congress cannot impeach a private citizen.
The fact remains Trump has some 78 million Americans on his side who will accept all of his arguments.
I doubt the species on the left can be convinced by anything Trump might argue.
Ergo, Trump has to decide which arguments are in HIS best interests. Period.
It’s risky and I think Bannon is best political advisor Trump ever had
Trump has to escape Senate conviction
We need him to run again ....
Which is a priority
Exposing the steal or Trump runs again
It could come to that ...
In the months preceding the Joint Session, President Trump repeatedly issued false statements asserting that the Presidential election results were the product of widespread fraud and should not be accepted by the American people or certified by State or Federal officials. Shortly before the Joint Session commenced, President Trump addressed a crowd at the Ellipse in Washington, D.C. There, he reiterated false claims that 'we won this election, and we won it by a landslide.'
Yes, but they are alleging he did this with his claims of voter fraud. Showing the voter fraud would be an affirmative defense.
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