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Proposal from Susan Collins-led group would bar Trump from presidency
Bangor Daily News ^ | January 28,2021 | by Michael Shepherd

Posted on 01/28/2021 4:14:11 PM PST by Hojczyk

A censure effort led by U.S. Sen. Susan Collins would bar former President Donald Trump from holding the office again while avoiding an impeachment trial, a Democrat drafting it with her said on Wednesday.

The proposal from Collins and Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Virginia, was criticized by some as toothless after it was first reported by Axios on Tuesday. But it was fleshed out in interviews over the course of Wednesday in which Democrats pitched the effort as a bid to disqualify the president from running again — perhaps without a trial.

Sen. Chris Coons, D-Delaware, told reporters in Washington that Collins and Kaine’s censure will “include the elements of the 14th Amendment” — a response to the Civil War that says those who have engaged in insurrection against the country cannot serve in federal office and allows Congress to enforce that provision — “that lead to disqualification from future office.”

Collins’ office did not directly answer questions on the 14th Amendment part of the censure or whether she agreed with Kaine’s view that it allowed for disqualification. Kaine said the measure could be introduced by next week.

In Washington on Wednesday, Collins also did not answer a reporter’s question about the 14th Amendment portion, according to a readout provided by her office, saying “we’re still going through language” but saying the measure would be “in lieu of a trial.” She added that it was being advanced as an acknowledgement of a political reality that Trump is unlikely to be convicted.

“Senator Collins and Senator Kaine are working on language, which is not final and will not be released until they have reached agreement,” Collins spokesperson Annie Clark said in a statement late Wednesday.

(Excerpt) Read more at bangordailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: 14thamendment; bidenvoters; braking; collins; gop4ccp; gop4dnc; gophatesamerica; impeachment2; kaine; sidebarabuse; teamromney
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To: lodi90

Susan Collins represents a state that Trump lost. Cheney has no such excuse. She represents a state that a Trump just won by his widest margin of ANY state.


61 posted on 01/28/2021 5:08:27 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: Hojczyk

Political whore


62 posted on 01/28/2021 5:09:05 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republican Party is DEAD! It took 160 years but The Whigs Struck Back!)
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To: dforest
How the hell is this Constitutional? Trump did nothing to be censured, impeached or kept from ever holding office. I had had enough of this crap ass country. What a damn dismal place.

It's not constitutional, but that doesn't stop the RATS these days because they've got enough judges out there to keep anything they pass in effect until it hits SCOTUS where they figure they can get Roberts and one of the three Trump-appointed cowards to uphold it.

However, this one is particularly important for them to get into the system because it's against President Trump so they can continue their Khan routine—"I've done far worse than kill you, Admiral. I've hurt you. And I wish to go on hurting you."—while working toward packing the Court with six more leftist justices which will undoubtedly make it constitutional along with a host of other horrible things.

63 posted on 01/28/2021 5:10:04 PM PST by Dahoser (The left shows no signs that reason is going to get them to stop what they’re doing.)
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To: Hojczyk

Jehu convinced all the priests of Baal to meet in one place, had them all killed, and then he had Jezebel thrown off the palace wall.

Trump could not do that and did not try, which is why he is going to suffer while Jezebel and the priests of Baal will keep stealing and debauching the nation for their own purposes.


64 posted on 01/28/2021 5:12:12 PM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Mr. N. Wolfe

The GOP fluffers tell us to just keep voting R jersey no matter how bad they are or how much we are betrayed.
The Whig party would still be around if that thinking was prevalent in the 1850s.


65 posted on 01/28/2021 5:14:28 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents)(Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Hojczyk

If they truly beat him with the most votes in history, they wouldn’t have to prevent him from running again. They would have nothing to worry about. Just saying...


66 posted on 01/28/2021 5:15:29 PM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: Baldwin77

I was pretty sure they couldn’t put a British subject/Kenyan/Indonesian national in the Oval Office, but they did it anyway.
I was pretty sure they would get called on all the fraud, too.

Sometimes it’s worse than I thought.


67 posted on 01/28/2021 5:17:49 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents)(Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: willk

Collins, Susan M? Contact

COLLINS, Susan M. (R-ME) SD-413[zip 04401] 204-224-2523

jic, for those with gumption?

Take care........pilgrim


68 posted on 01/28/2021 5:20:24 PM PST by pilgrim ( ps. "Warning Will Robinson! WARNING AMERICA danger ahead!" DANGER if NOTHING 'dun'!)
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To: Mariner

Or figure like that natural born citizen thing, the unconstitutionality of it this just a minor detail.


69 posted on 01/28/2021 5:21:45 PM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan. )
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To: pgyanke

They know it, we know it, and they know that we know it.

That’s why they’re trying to crush us and eliminate him.


70 posted on 01/28/2021 5:24:09 PM PST by livius
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To: Hojczyk

Trump is still a private citizen. The Senate has no jurisdiction over a private citizen. A Congressional Censure that attempts to deprive a private citizen the right to public office would be unconstitutional. The qualifications for running for the office of President are set forth in the Constitution and don’t include permission from Congress.

Definition of bill of attainder. : a legislative act that imposes punishment without a trial.


71 posted on 01/28/2021 5:35:30 PM PST by Captain Compassion (I'm just sayin')
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To: Hojczyk

The NaziCommies are inventing a fantasy world, just like the Nazis and the German people of the Third Reich did all those years ago...


72 posted on 01/28/2021 5:35:54 PM PST by kiryandil (New Movie: The Assassination Of Ashli Babbitt By The Anonymous Coward)
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To: Hojczyk

I’m fairly certain Trump won’t run again, but he’ll wield a heavy fist behind the scenes for the next several elections.

So they can chase that boogieman all they want. It only shows their fear and weakness, and in the end, whatever they do will likely be struck down by the Supreme Court — if it gets to them before Biden stacks it.


73 posted on 01/28/2021 5:40:24 PM PST by Magnatron
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To: Hojczyk

If President Trump wanted to lead an insurrection, he would get at least 3 million supporters, and 50 million sympathizers. I doubt He and his military advisers would start in DC.


74 posted on 01/28/2021 5:49:26 PM PST by IgnorerOfLiberals
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To: Pete Dovgan

I totally agree. But wouldn’t it be fun to see Trump appeal to Supreme Court and have them slap down these moron radicals in Congress now? Assuming at least that Roberts agrees after declining to preside last week.


75 posted on 01/28/2021 5:50:37 PM PST by vigilence (Vigilence)
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To: Sacajaweau

The bitch has been sleeping with the Democrap Dogs for too long. She needs to be “put to sleep!”
Stop the pretense Susan, your papers show a lack of pedigree!


76 posted on 01/28/2021 5:56:17 PM PST by BatGuano (Ya don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do Ya? Nunc Bibendum)
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To: Fu-fu2

There is one ironic convicted criminal in Congress— he was the Impeachment Manager in the House the first go round on Trump.

His name: Alcee Hastings- who was impeached by a democrat House as a Federal Judge, on Bribery and Perjury. The impeachment trial went to the Senate (also Democrat run)— where he was CONVICTED of both crimes and REMOVED from the Federal bench permanently. But he was not censured to never be allowed to run for public office. He ran for Congress in Liberty City/Miami and has been there ever since- presumably still taking bribes. And HE was chosen by Nanzi Pelousi(nee D’alessando mafia princess) to head up the legal part of the impeachment.

Just beyond belief. He is one crooked lying


77 posted on 01/28/2021 5:56:48 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Hojczyk

I always say to myself she acts retarded. She talks like she’s retarded. Now I know she is retarded.


78 posted on 01/28/2021 5:58:25 PM PST by tinamina
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To: Hojczyk

We need to put all our effort into getting rid of Susan Collins as soon as she is up for election again.


79 posted on 01/28/2021 6:01:53 PM PST by pollywog (" O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: tinamina

Come On Man!

So sexist if you think about it.


80 posted on 01/28/2021 6:02:55 PM PST by Boardwalk (Lets)
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