Posted on 01/28/2021 4:07:38 AM PST by Kaslin
Ditching the GOP is a bad idea born of justifiable frustration, and we need to stop being emotional and start being ruthless in our campaign to retake this country from these liberal establishment aspiring fascists. A third party is not the way. It is a bad idea, one that is technically impractical and which is strategically inept. It will lead to disaster. And the Democrats know it, which is why they love this third party palaver. The only thing that makes the tooting likes of Eric Swalwell coo in delight harder than some mediocre Chi Com honeypot is the thought of us conservatives committing ritual suicide by splitting our half of the country in two because some of the 50 percent of Americans in our camp are insufferable sissies.
News flash, folks. We’re going to have to suffer the sissies forever. The question is whether they run the party apparatus, or whether they are consigned to the fringes, scribbling in their blogs about how True Conservatism™ requires that we go to war everywhere, that we allow giant corporations to limit our speech, and that we all wear vinyl gimp suits with ball gags and address Nancy Pelosi as “Mistress P.”
Just kidding.
The part about “we” going to war is a joke. You and your kids get to go to war while they, with very few exceptions, who never shut up about it, get to stay home and fight their endless war against push-ups and testosterone. The rest is pretty dead-on.
Let’s look at the big picture. The design of the Constitution essentially mandates a two-party system. A third party has never won the presidency, and one rarely wins legislative seats. Usually, such candidates call themselves “independents,” but Democrats know they are really Democrats and understand this is just a ploy to appeal to the suckers.
There is always going to be a party of the left, and a party of the right, with the battle over the middle. A party getting 55 percent of the vote is considered to have won in a landslide. America is that closely divided. For our sins, the party of the right is the Republican Party. And math says we are stuck with it.
You cannot divide the 50 percent of America on the right up and hope to beat the 50 percent on the left. It does not work, and all the hopes, dreams, and krakens of a million outraged conservatives on Twitter will not make it so. Politics must be about addition, and that implies we need to add people who are not as conservative as we are. If you want purity, date a nun. This is politics, and if you don’t win, you lose.
I propose we win.
Third parties do have a track record of disrupting elections. The Left blamed the Greens for Bush in 2000, and some blame the Libertarians, among other factors, for President * in 2020. Clinton won in 1992 because Perot split the vote for George H.W. Bush. But these events all have one thing in common – the third party never wins. Nor will one.
Trump himself seems to understand, walking back the “Patriot Party” stuff in order to settle in as a GOP kingmaker. He knows he loses in 2024 running as a third party candidate – 50 percent of people already hate him and some percentage of the GOP will stay GOP out of habit if nothing else. You can’t expect to win if you start off, best case, losing 50 percent + 1. But by remaining in the GOP – as its most popular figure by far – he has real power to influence events.
The third party talk also ignores the practical reality of the GOP’s irreplaceable infrastructure. A competitive national political party is a Broadway play, not a show some kids put on in a barn. While some imagine a sort of spontaneous, math-defying movement materializing out of the political ether, the reality is that a party structure performs essential tasks and there is no substitute for it. Who has the donor lists, the volunteer lists, the organization to drive get out the vote efforts? The party. You can’t patch one together overnight out of fervor and contempt for the squishes.
There are many things that are critical that go into a campaign and go on behind the scenes that most of us never even imagined. For example, who are the lawyers who worked for the GOP who know election law who will be leaving their GOP contracts to come and keep the “MAGA Party” candidates out of jail? You think the Establishment will give the “Constitutionalist Party” a pass for not understanding the campaign finance laws? And who pays these lawyers, assuming any really good ones want to flush their career in electoral law down the toilet to go all-in on a losing one-shot cause?
That’s just one example of many of the things a party infrastructure does, and no one is going to build another national structure (not to mention a structure in each of the 50 states) in the next four years. It is appealing to leave the jerks in the GOP behind, but if you do, you are choosing irrelevance.
But hey, you’re angry so you gotta cater to those feelz.
That’s stupid and weak. Tighten up. Yeah, the GOP establishment sucks – and no, you’re not the only one who has noticed. We are always going to have people near the center who frustrate us. That’s the reality, and being angry about it is like yelling at clouds. But what we can do – and have done – is slowly force the party to conform more closely to our vision. It’s like turning the Titanic, an apt metaphor if there ever was one, but it is happening already.
Look at the GOP just five years ago and look at it today. Yeah, we have the rump Renfield contingent with tiresome goofs like Mitt (R?-Miracle Whip). We have others who alternate between establishment-curious moderate wimpiness and coming through for us at many key junctures – Susan Collins, Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham. But look at what we don’t have – Jeff Flake is gone. Jeb! is a flabby footnote. And as hard as Nikki! is trying to make herself happen, she’s not happening. The GOP has shifted our way – on wars, on culture, on tech, on playing to win. We have earned the support of Americans of all races in unprecedented numbers because we have focused on people who – remember this? – work hard and play by the rules. That’s progress. Not enough, not nearly, but to deny the progress because you are angry only empowers the people you are angry at. We can’t throw out what we have already achieved simply because we have much more work to do. Take the W, people.
We need to do more. We need to infiltrate the infrastructure and remake the Republican Party from the inside into a party for working Americans of every demographic who love their country and demand their rights, as opposed to the 2015 party that shafted working Americans so Democrat-donor big corporations can rig the system and let SJW twerps endlessly hassle us for the crime of being normal.
But Kurt, we do vote and sometimes we lose!
Yes. You will lose much of the time. This is called reality. People who compete often lose. The ones who don’t compete never lose, but they never win either.
Here’s your action plan. If you are a registered Republican, stay that way. If not, register Republican. Then vote in the primaries to rid ourselves of squishes. Then take the next step. Find your local GOP organization and join, then run for local party and then government offices. We need to build our farm team, and that means traveling along the American cursus honorum from GOP precinct captain to county GOP committee member to city council to state assembly to Congress and beyond.
Gee Kurt, that sounds like hard work.
It is. It’s a lot easier to declare you are never ever voting GOP again on Twitter. But I was under the impression that we are the faction that is not averse to hard work, especially when it is our country at stake. So, this is a test – if you’re serious about winning, you stay GOP.
A third party hands total control over to the left, and if you want to see what that scenario looks like, check out my newest novel Crisis, as well as my other four novels of America splitting into red and blue nations, People's Republic, Indian Country, Wildfire, and Collapse!
Because 2 party work so well.
Historically..we get a solid Republican for President about every 30 to 50 years.
And then the opposition..with the help of the media and crooked judges do everything in their power to destroy their reputation. Including associates and family members.
Ever notice when we do get a real conservative, they try and kill him?
Kennedy, Reagan, Gingrich, Trump
Okay, okay, Kurt. You convinced me. I’ll change my Party registration back to Whig. Happy now? Sheesh.
That's exactly right and his election made millions of registered Republicans realize that they aren't Republicans either. And the best this fossilized party can do when their death grip is threatened is to hold it's breath and kick their heels like a child. It's over for them, Trump is about to leave a smoldering crater where they once stood. It's lovely.
Rush was right! The goal of the Dems was always to eliminate voting entirely. The wholescale acceptance of voter fraud has done that perfectly.
Ditch RINOs, not the Party.
Start with Romney.
Target the Lincoln Project.
Be precise. Not general.
Take your toy and go home.
Anyone wishing to stop the third party should start cleaning up the second party — immediately — and very visibly too. Otherwise, it’s happening and nothing can stop it. GOP-e is worse than worthless, it’s part of the problem.
if they do it..then..and only then..do we know they are serious.
Otherwise,they will string us along until next time..and all the same people who support the 2 party system will exclaim,we have to do something about this!?
Why would you go against him?
Romney? 93-7 was the vote to certify the stolen election. No amount of GOP gaslighting will ever put the vote that disenfranchised us down the memory hole. Never forget. Never forgive.
“I will not ever vote Republican again. Screw ‘em. They stabbed Donald Trump in the back and they deserve to lose.”
It’s up to us to fix this! Under your plan, we never win again. We must isolate and eradicate them one at a time!
No you are stupid and ridiculous to think the GOP can be changed....
Nope - not going to stop advocation for a third party.
This is the same argument that is used by the GOPe to try and keep conservatives voting for their candidates and pushing their agenda. Not going to fall for it again.
I am a CONSERVATIVE, not a republican. Changed parties years ago.
The dumbs—ts are still thinking in terms of a third party.
Most people with a quarter of a clue would settle for a second party.
I’m not a Republican at heart any longer, don’t waste your breath.
There’s Democrat and just not quite so Democrat. There is NO
REPUBLICAN PARTY.
There hasn’t been for a long time.
We’re in the middle of an impeachment process where our Senate
Minority Leader hasn’t been able to say if he’ll vote to convict Trump
or not.
What is it going to take the wake some folks up?
You have no party behind you. Get it?
More wind whistling through the bones of the GOP in the graveyard.
Conservatives don’t need the GOP screw them.
I am contemplating polemical hari-kari by voting Democrat just to screw the GOP. I want to see you RepubliCANTS crying. I I am starting to like it.
Mitch, bush, cheney, romney and their ilk ARE the republican party..
WE are the rino’s...
once you accept that premise, your course of action is crystal clear
He understood the whole fiasco but had one key condition to be met before he would support an objection to the electoral votes of any state: He asked for a statement in support of the objection from a person or governing body from that state who was legally authorized to make a formal representation on behalf of that state. This could have come from a governor, a legislature, a state attorney general, or anyone else.
THERE WERE NONE.
The GOP die hards want to do this the hard way. Instead of getting on board with a new nationalist-populist party we will have to kill the GOP party first and then create a new party.
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