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Report: Sen. Patrick Leahy Expected to Preside over Second Trump Impeachment Trial
Breitbart ^ | 01/25/2021 | Joshua Caplan

Posted on 01/25/2021 10:18:35 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

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To: Erik Latranyi

I think something else will preclude Biden running again.


101 posted on 01/25/2021 11:08:10 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

IMHO, President Trump should ignore the democrats’ show trial entirely. The only purpose of the show trial is to placate the democrats’ far left wing.

If he does not ignore it, then he should file suit in a carefully selected conservative judicial district and seek a nationwide injunction on the grounds that a Senate show trial of a former President is unconstitutional.


102 posted on 01/25/2021 11:08:14 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy (Slow Joe is Not My President!)
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To: Skeptical constituent
I disagree.

Trump was impeached as President, but the term expired and the impeachment becomes moot, just as a bill passed in Congress becomes moot if not signed by the end of the term of Congress.

There should be no trial because the penalty of removal from office has already occurred. Trying Trump would be a double-jeopardy: he was removed from office by the Electoral College, and now the Senate is seeking to remove him a second time even though he's already left office.

-PJ

103 posted on 01/25/2021 11:08:22 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Thats because its not an impeachment. Roberts won’t come. Its a show trial which means nothing. Trump should ignore it. And he should run for office and go to the supreme court if they try to stop him.


104 posted on 01/25/2021 11:09:55 AM PST by poinq
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To: cowboyusa

Doesn’t matter. The theory is the same. Ex-officer.
The only difference the title President makes is the issue of whether Roberts presides...but there still can be a trial.


105 posted on 01/25/2021 11:12:07 AM PST by RummyChick (To President Trump: https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3923111/posts)
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To: Carl Vehse
how do they explain Democrat Alcee Hastings who was impeached and removed from the federal bench for corruption, and who has been an elected Representative from Florida since 1993?

The Senate chose not to impose the punishment of disqualification on Hastings.

107 posted on 01/25/2021 11:15:37 AM PST by Jim Noble (Lo there do I see the line of my people, back to the beginning)
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To: Skywise
Trump has a good case of taking this to the Supreme Court for an illegal bill of attainder for this kangaroo court action.

Trump will not have standing.....

108 posted on 01/25/2021 11:17:51 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is communism)
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To: Carl Vehse
If the Demonicrats want to convict former President Trump so that he cannot run for office again, how do they explain Demonicrat Alcee Hastings who was impeached and removed from the federal bench for corruption, and who has been an elected Representative from Florida since 1993?

Under Article I, section 3 of the Constitution, upon conviction by the Senate, an impeached federal official is removed from office and the Senate has the option (but is not required) to also prohibit the official from holding any federal office in the future. I cannot recall any prior impeachment where the Senate elected to prohibit an impeached official (I believe that all prior convictions were judges like Hastings) from holding future federal office.

109 posted on 01/25/2021 11:18:01 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy (Slow Joe is Not My President!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Leaky Leahy?! I honestly didn’t know he was still alive.


110 posted on 01/25/2021 11:18:12 AM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.d)
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To: HamiltonJay
And only OFFICE HOLDERS can be impeached

That's probably not true, but set that aside for a minute.

Trump was impeached (this time) while he was President of the United States, so EVEN IF the "power of impeachment" granted to the House in Article I does not extend to private citizens, it would not apply here.

111 posted on 01/25/2021 11:19:16 AM PST by Jim Noble (Lo there do I see the line of my people, back to the beginning)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

If the Senate is the jury, how can there be a jurist presiding over the trial? Another admission from the left that this whole thing is fake.


112 posted on 01/25/2021 11:20:11 AM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: Jim Noble

Impeachment is for office holders, to remove them from office.

Holding an impeachment trial on a private citizen is not constitutional.


113 posted on 01/25/2021 11:21:03 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: RummyChick
I'm not a con lawyer, but with co-equal branches no branch can compel another branch to do anything.

The Senate isn't even a branch, it is a chamber of the bicameral Congress. It cannot speak for Congress alone, except within its plenary power of advice and consent, and treaty ratification.

Regarding impeachment, the Senate already has the consent of the House, but it still cannot compel the Chief Justice to appear (the Constitution would, if conditions apply). If the Senate disapproves of the Chief Justice's behavior, it can always seek the House to level impeachment charges against the Chief Justice for treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors, or failure to demonstrate Article III "good behavior." On the latter point, "good behavior" does not mean refusal to cave to the demands of Congress, as much as Pelosi and Schumer wish it to be.

It appears that the Chief Justice took the literal meaning of the Constitution and decided that the President is not being tried and therefore his appearance is not called for. It is his call to make, and he made it. Based on that, citizen Trump should appeal to the Supreme Court to rule that the trial is unconstitutional because there is no penalty; he has already been removed from office by the Electoral College.

-PJ

114 posted on 01/25/2021 11:21:34 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: NonValueAdded
It says ... when the President of the United States is tried.... At this point, that can only mean Joe Biden.
115 posted on 01/25/2021 11:22:22 AM PST by Calvin Cooledge
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To: RummyChick

The only remedy of conviction is removal of the president.

Biden is the only president we have.

Convict Trump - Remove Biden.


116 posted on 01/25/2021 11:23:08 AM PST by OSHA (Before you come for my guns, kiss your loved ones goodbye.)
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To: RummyChick
I get that most people here have never heard of Belknap but by now that name should be getting a lot of play.

Belknap is not much in the way of precedent and certainly is not a controlling one.

William Belknap was the Secretary of War under President Grant. He was impeached by the House, resigned, and was then tried by the Senate. He argued that the Senate no longer had jurisdiction since he had resigned, and a majority of the Senate voted that they did. He was then acquitted by the Senate and the issue became moot.

117 posted on 01/25/2021 11:24:40 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy (Slow Joe is Not My President!)
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To: damper99

Just keep whispering “Patriot Party” in McConnell’s ear.


118 posted on 01/25/2021 11:24:40 AM PST by joshua c (Jan 20th is Dump Day. Dump them all. Twitter, Facebook, Google, Amazon, cable tv etc)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

it’s surprising how many posters on FR get an F in civics.


119 posted on 01/25/2021 11:26:00 AM PST by JohnBrowdie ( )
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To: Political Junkie Too

Apparently, he is saying he doesn’t have the authority as per Constitution as he interprets it

But the Senate could come back and designate him giving him the authority

Then it would be back to him to refuse.

I would presume the Senate would normally not do that if they knew Roberts would refuse..but these are not normal times.


120 posted on 01/25/2021 11:26:59 AM PST by RummyChick (To President Trump: https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3923111/posts)
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