Patriot Party files FEC notice of joint fundraising with Donald J. Trump for President Inc. (VOA)

FEC ^ | 22 Jan 21

[BlackFemaleArmyColonel]

Patriot Party files FEC notice of joint fundraising with Donald J. Trump for President Inc. (VOA).

[RC one]

The GOP has done nothing for me yet I despise the democrat party. What choice do I have?

[rlmorel]

Any thinking person understands the downside of a third party candidate: You will end up having two candidates chasing the same number of votes, while very little changes for the other side, whose vote pool will stay the same.

Easy.

Thing is, Conservatives are on the horns of a dilemma.

• On one horn of the dilemma is the standard handicap of a Conservative third party: It is a sure loser unless they totally dissolve the Republican Party. Not happening. Even if 90% of the current Republicans were to join the new party, it would still be a loser. With elections commonly being decided by far less than 10%, even if 90% joined the new party, the margin of victory would only be even. So, we aren't going to win there.
  
  
• On the other horn of the dilemma is the extreme and justified anger of Conservatives who have seen that participating in the electoral process is not only meaningless, it compounds the insult by reinforcing the legitimacy of a totally corrupt electoral process which is something a large number of Conservatives are loathe to do.
  • Add to that the completely disgusting behavior of Republicans who, when not actually helping perpetrate and cheering on this fraudulent, screaming, dog's breakfast of an election, sat on their damned hands and put duct tape over their mouths instead of speaking up when it counted.
    
    
  • And the combination of those two insults have inflicted a deep and grievous wound on the some of the most dedicated conservatives out there, who are resolved not to vote in a farcical electoral process, or are not going to vote for a Republican.
    
    
  • Meaning at a minimum, 30% of conservatives are going to refuse to vote for one or both of those reasons above. And that spells electoral defeat no matter what.

What this boils down to is, whichever horn we take, we get gored electorally. We lose.

Granted, when confronted by the horns of a dilemma, there is always a third choice.

You can try to go between the horns and ride it out. In this case, that means just continuing on as if the electoral process was not completely and totally broken at worst, or at best, trying as the minority party, to reform and fix the electoral process.

It is clear that option is not going to work for two main reasons:

1. The Republican Party is not the least bit interested in fixing the problem, with minor exceptions. They have fully shown by both their participation in the fraud and the silence when they should have spoken, they are interested only in riding the gravy train. They don't have the votes or the inclination to change the electoral process and fix it.
   
   
2. The Democrat party is fully in on not only cementing the electoral fraud permanently, but extending it much further. Look at the newly introduced "For The People Act of 2021" which was introduced on 1/4/2021. That has a bunch of really cool stuff, including mandating Internet Voting, just to name one. You get the idea.

We don't know what will happen. It is even possible that the Left will foul things up so badly that even the people perpetrating the fraud won't want to steal another election. But we cannot count on those kinds of things.

Therefore, we are looking at wandering in the wilderness for a few more election cycles, maybe the next two, possible three Presidential elections. That is a long time.

The upshot of this is, in my opinion, is that we have nothing to lose by starting a new party. Nothing. And the sooner we start, the sooner we might get out of the woods.

[ptsal]

suck the $$$ out of the GOP.

[mabarker1]

PING

[wastedyears]

As much as I hate the current Republican party, it’s better to take it over from within

The corruption is so ingrained and pervasive in the republican't party that he's better off starting his own party.

[DaxtonBrown]

The smart way to run this is in parallel with Republicans. Mostly endorse Republican candidates, but pick off the RINO stragglers. Like Romney.

[KC Burke]

RBW

You are right. All the filed document go to a guy in a suburban neiborhood outside ofAgusta, Georgia.

[MayflowerMadam]

Of course. The “repukes” are worse than the RATs, almost.

[bramps]

Before anything Trump does has any meaning, we need to hear from him that he has fired every top advisor from his previous administration.

I would be exceptionally suspicious of whoever convinced him to have that final rally.

[Basket_of_Deplorables]

I’m in!!!

Let the RNC die.

[sparrowsong]

If a party such as this is to succeed, it must eagerly pursue winning the seats of governor, secretary of state, and state house representatives as well. Additionally, it must pursue the cause of free and fair elections including the elimination of electronic voting, the elimination of ballot harvesting, and the implementation of voter id laws. State by state, these measures must be adopted.

[BlackFemaleArmyColonel]

I’m not sure.

[StoneWall Brigade]

Ahhh the famous but Hillary.
You’ll get 00000000.5 of the vote or at the very best maybe just maybe two electoral votes and the infighting will do you in among other things you’ll not last but five years.

You wanna know truth? Hillary was never going to win she’s not the threat she’s been made out to be not like Bill or zero
heck a broom stick could have beaten her.

[AmericanInTokyo]

While the orbits do intersect, there is a core dissonance between Conservatism and Trumpism.

Hence, the /s after my post in jest. I was merely putting in plain language what a lot of people seemingly are in their hearts advocating in going over the cliff with this cultism—an incredible change in FR over 48 short months, that has lost us both houses and the Presidency, is seeing a number of its most fierce adherents heading to federal prison (and criminal charges likely coming to 45) and is such a foolish, narrow New Party which invariably will have no broad appeal and will in fact go the way of the AIP in California. Correct. 20% of the vote max.

[AmericanInTokyo]

You have some common sense I see

[InterceptPoint]

Jim Jordan will win with the Patriot Party.
+++++
Well I don’t believe all the good guys and gals that we have in the GOP would magically switch to te Patriot Party. That is way too optimistic a view, IMHO.

Look, we’re all just guessing how it will go. Trump will finally make the decision and I’ll support him. But I don’t think he will go 3rd party.

[JonPreston]

I was trying to find out how many dems voted for Trump. Couldnt find anything

Here’s something else the Democrats won’t want to hear.

President Trump’s campaign manager, Brad Parscale, released some very surprising data gathered from attendees at his Tuesday night rally in Broward, FL, which is guaranteed to send a shiver up Adam Schiff’s spine.

Of the 31,177 voters who provided data, 24% were Democrats. The significance of this is monumental. I wonder what the percentage of Republicans attending Democratic rallies is. I imagine it would be low to nil.

[Bigbrown]

“ You’re right about Teddy Roosevelt and the Bull Moose party. A third party is a losing proposition unless you get massive support from both parties. As much as I hate the current Republican party, it’s better to take it over from within. The numbers just don’t work otherwise. If you have a district where it’s about 50-50 Republicans and Democrats, even if 80% of the Republicans join the Patriot party, the Patriot candidate won’t win.”

^^^^THIS 100%

[Reily]

Exactly !

[StoneWall Brigade]

I know AIT I tagged you because your one of us my good FRiend.