Posted on 01/21/2021 7:01:26 AM PST by SeekAndFind
The Party should have Term Limits on members so it doesn’t turn into the other Parties
I think a blend could be useful. The “new” party needs to have a contract with their members that we only vote for “endorsed” Republicans, meaning endorsed by the new “party” and the accompanying principles. Thus, this can make or break the GOP, they move towards us or they don’t get support. If there is not a palatable GOP candidate to endorse then the new party runs one in a primary.
I don’t understand. The Federalists and Whigs were major parties in their time. They weren’t third parties.
Right, this is the way. You build the party organization but also continue to use the Republican party until you have reach a critical mass and can dispense with it entirely. That last step is where the Tea Party failed. They got co-opted instead.
Hows about this :
Things will be so FUBAR in 2022, R’s will regain House. big majority in Senate. Trump runs and gets elected to House from FLA. Then is elected Speaker. Impeach Biden, remove. Then impeach Harris (quickly), remove. They can always dig uo reasons for both (see W J Clinton). If they can impeach, guess who becomes POTUS:
Republican party: We lie to you and we are never going to represent you in Washington D.C.
Republican constituent: That’s outrageous!
Republican party: Vote for us.
Republican constituent: OK.
Yes, but what we really need is more than that.
We need a CW2.
We will have to shoot our way out of this unfortunately until the Left comes to the bargaining table and then we have a peaceful divorce.
He can call it the, “I wimped out on an Assange Pardon Party”.
Correct.
I agree with you 100%. We do the old trojan horse maneuver.
That you, Mitch?
“NO. We either capture the GOP, or we lose totally.”
“The GOP is a dead husk. The GOP is Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham.
Sometimes the cancer is too far gone to save the patient.
If we stay with the GOP we lose, and even when we win we still lose, because... Mitch and Lindsey and their ilk.
So, in reality, we have nothing to lose.”
I agree with this , we had the presidency and both houses of congress and we saw that the opposition was the establishment on both sides. ie , mcconnell , ryan, ect ect
Then the only alternative is going full bore for armed revolution and civil war.
3rd parties ALWAYS ALWAYS lead to the worst Demonrat party winning.
Both long, long gone.
You may be correct, but I think it slightly more likely the decision makers in the Biden admin will go full power ahead.
IMO, the only way they will "fail" to block Trump is if they are confident they can control the outcome of future elections. Only then will their version of "unity" prevail. (You will recall the USSR's definition of "peace", and we are at this moment dealing with its children and grandchildren.)
You don’t understand.
You are not splitting the con vote. You’d be splitting the minority GOPe out of our side.
Eventually over time, the new party would grow until the GOP dies on the vine, and most of those left simply join the Dems or sit out.
This is definitely the situation you need and want to launch a powerful new party that will quickly become the 2nd party.
If you can get more than half of the republican party but less than half but a significant fraction of the democrat party, you can get one third of the vote, you can hypothetically challenge democrat AND republican majorities in both houses of congress, but the question I have is what happens in the electoral college if no one gets 270? Do you just need the most electoral college votes to take the presidency or is 270 strict?
A new party to do what? There is no wresting power from the uniparty in DC. Seems like a totally wasted effort.
“The Republican establishment exists to give the illusion of choice and to make sure someone conservative is not elected.”
Here’s an excerpt from a story at The Daily Caller:
Fox News host Tucker Carlson said Thursday that the Republican Party leadership doesn’t “like their own voters.”
“This really is the main problem, on the right anyway. The people who run the Republican Party don’t really like their own voters,” Carlson said on Fox News’ “Tucker Carlson Tonight.” “And they especially don’t want the voters that Trump brought,” Carlson continued. “Trump brought the party’s ranks noticeably downscale, ‘from the country club to the trailer park,’ as they often sneer. And this horrifies them. Many Republicans in Washington now despise the people they’re supposed to represent and protect.”
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Carlson claimed that “socially anxious white professionals” feel contempt for “working-class people who look like them.”
“So if you want to understand the hatred, the real hatred, not just disagreement but gut level loathing and fear of Trump — in say New York or Washington or L.A. — you’ve got to understand that first. It’s not really Trump; it’s his voters. The new money class despises them,” Carlson said.
Supporting the GOP after 40 years of betrayal is the height of insanity:
The GOP party needs to die and a new party take its place.
The GOP leadership hates patriotic Americans and it is long past time to return the favor.
posted on 1/9/2021, 6:49:07 AM by wildcard_redneck
We do NOT have the time to sort out the good from the bad. Let the current GOP that allowed itself to decay from within to just die on it’s own. We will be paddling sand against the tide.
posted on 1/9/2021, 8:25:47 AM by ridesthemiles
Meanwhile, the Republican National Committee re-elected Ronna Romney McDaniel, the niece of the head RINO himself, Mitt Romney, to be its leader for the coming four years:
surely, the gop-e isn’t that tone deaf or stupid.....but I guess they are.
posted on 1/9/2021, 8:28:45 AM by ealgeone
Trump will be very successful in starting a new party, IMO.
The current GOP has caused the voters to lose faith in them.
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