Trump Reportedly Wants to Create a New Political Party. Should He?

PJ Media ^ | 01/21/2021 | Matt Margolis

[SeekAndFind]

President Trump wants to create a new political party after leaving office, says the Wall Street Journal. According to the report, “President Trump has talked in recent days with associates about forming a new political party, according to people familiar with the matter, an effort to exert continued influence after he leaves the White House.”

According to sources, President Trump says he would want to call his new political party the “Patriot Party,” but the White House refused to comment.

It is not known just how serious Trump is about starting a new political party. As the WSJ notes, to do so “would require a significant investment of time and resources,” and third parties “have typically failed to draw enough support to play a major role in national elections.” But President Trump is perhaps the most uniquely positioned person to do such a thing, as he has a huge base of supporters, many of whom were not heavily involved in the Republican Party.

Aside from the question of whether or not he can or will start a new political party, the real issue here, I think, is whether he should.

I’ve seen many Republican friends express disappointment with the GOP in recent weeks for their failure to fight for President Trump and his priorities, as well as their criticism of Trump in the wake of the Capitol riots following the false narrative that he incited an insurrection. In fact, Republican wobbliness preceded President Trump’s term in the White House. The corrupt Obama-Biden administration spent eight years violating the Constitution without significant pushback from the Republican Party. Aside from the refusal to give Merrick Garland a hearing upon his nomination to the Supreme Court, the GOP was an ineffective check on the abuses of the Obama-Biden administration,

[StAnDeliver]

"FIGHT for control of the Republican party, just like the Hippie Libs did for the Democrat party starting in 1968. That's when sHrillary, Ketchup Boy John Kerry, and the rest of the progressives burrowed their way into the Democratic party, AND WAITED 20+ YEARS to get into positions of power."

Exactly. How many people have ever been to a precinct committeeman meeting, even for either side (given the ton of former Dems on here).

I have, I'll bet you have, but I'd hard wager less than 10% of Freepers have.

Why? It's not easy, it requires an investment of time and money, and you have to directly encounter and frankly disabuse the RINOs of any notion of achieving power and instead sit in the back and shut up and write a check.

That is a thorny proposition and there are few people who are good at it and there are fewer people who actually engage and pull it off.

Meanwhile, the other 90% who are simply, simplistically transactional -- not to mention ignernt of 3rd-Party US electoral history -- just want someone they can 'buy into' that will give them what they want; and even better, when they can't get what they want, they can sit here and bitch about it.

[StAnDeliver]

The other half of my argument is thusly -- Trump people are brethren, they are brothers under the skin, you meet a Trump person and 98% of the time, the buy-in is already there. Trump people agree on nearly ALL of the major points of economic nationalism. That has been a major hurdle prior to Trump.

Wait Rush is talking about this right now.

"You know this is a tough thing, I think it's a personal decision for everybody that's going to be involved in this. There needs to be an organized opposition to the Dems, there needs to be a place where the fruits and labors of the organized opposition can vote. There has to be some mechanism for the opposition to have a chance."

[StAnDeliver]

There is no reason to give up our grasp on the GOP. None. Certainly not because Fearpers cannot yank themselves off the MSM teat for one second and view this moment dispassionately.

If Trump people have control of the GOP, they can stand on the necks of the RINOs, and promote Trump candidates for Governor, for Secretary of State(!), for Congress, and of course, for President.

When you have that kind of power, you also have the power to fast-track a Justice Amy Coney Barrett, fast-track a Judge Justin Walker to the DC Circuit Court of Appeals, and make sure Kentucky Atty. General Daniel Cameron is newest member of the Senate upon Miotch's primary defeat.

It took over 3 1/2 decades for the McGovernick's in the Democrat Party -- '72 to '08 -- to burrow in and get some of what they want. (Nobody gets everything they want. Nobody).

But this is the most salient point of all: Trump has a FAT STACK of GOP IOUs. IOUs from Congresscritters that are all still going to be around in 2024.

[absalom01]

That’s exactly right. Trump didn’t create a new coalition, he just, as an entrepreneur, noticed a market that was not being served by the existing establishment parties.

The ground is ripe for flyover country, working people (and by that, I mean people with jobs), including major inroads to young black and hispanic males to actually have a voice. Local races are critical, and the left has a huge advantage in this regard, as they are well funded and organized. Trump is in the position to galvanize this base for a takeover of the GOP from within.

In my humble opinion it begins even lower than the local city counsel and board of education races, at the county GOP central committee levels. Those people are already mostly very solid. With a little bit of national leadership, mentoring, and organizational assistance, the squishes could in fact be shown the door, and be replaced by solid patriots.

The hardest challenge over the years has been getting busy, patriotic conservatives to actually engage in the messy business of retail politics. Perhaps people are angry enough, and perhaps they can see just what the Democrat machine has planned for us that they’ll be willing to take that first step.

[Wonder Warthog]

"Third party’s have not succeeded, even Teddy Roosevelt running as the Bull Moose party candidate, split the Republican vote, giving the election to Woodrow Wilson."

This simply is NOT TRUE. The third party started by Andrew Jackson (aka the Democrats) replaced the Federalists, and the third party of Lincoln and others (aka the Republicans) replaced the Whigs. In both cases, the third party had a highly popular leader as figurehead. That is the situation today with Trump and whatever party he starts.

Other two-bit third parties have lacked the strong leader figure. An exception was Teddy Roosevelt and his "Bull Moose" party, but at that time, the Republicans were still strong. That is NOT the case today.

[GreyFriar]

It also helped in 1860 that the Democrat split into either 2 or three tickets, thus letting the ‘upstart’ republicans win their first election.

[DoughtyOne]

d":^)

[livius]

I think he should take over the existing GOP and build in its hollow shell. Honestly, more and more GOP politicians are beginning to understand that unless you support Trump and he supports you, you have no chance of getting elected. A definite wake up moment.

[kabar]

State legislatures make those decisions. The state courts and officials had no right to override them. Enforce the state laws and get rid of the Dominion machines.

[itsahoot]

State legislatures make those decisions. The state courts and officials had no right to override them. Enforce the state laws and get rid of the Dominion machines.

Vorer ID was thwarted by the courts again and again, they also stopped states from removing dead and moved voters from the rolls and you missed that did you?

[kabar]

Texas ultimately won the long-winding fight to keep its voter ID law on the books. After the state faced multiple losses in the courts, the U.S. 5th Circuit Court of Appeals ultimately upheld Texas’ revised law.

Plenty of other cases of voter ID laws being upheld.

Top Trump adviser Jason Miller told “Just the News AM” on Thursday that he expects former President Trump to “emerge as the nation’s leader on ballot and voting integrity” in the coming months.

[willyd]

He should form a 527 and use the money to fund candidates to primary all the sitting GOP members that sat on their hands the whole time.

They all need to go ... we can survive 4 years without the current GOP... but we can’t survive having both parties working against us in the long run.

[Candor7]

Tellingly, Florida Senator Rick Scott, when questioned ,indicated that he would as the chief fundraiser for the GOP Senate , would support only incumbents running for the Senate.

Scott is now the Turtle’s right hand man mutual anti Trump Swamp master. Scott knows that Ivanka is coming for Rubio.

[itsahoot]

Plenty of other cases of voter ID laws being upheld.

Look at what they had to concede in getting acceptance, of course none of these have made their way to the Supremes and that would be a cr@pshoot as of today.

If this last election increased you faith in Courts or Justice then please send me some of this happy pills you have.

[kabar]

On April 28, by a vote of 6 to 3, the U.S. Supreme Court rejected a facial challenge to Indiana’s voter-photo identification law in the case of Crawford v. Marion County Election Board. At issue was whether Indiana’s requirement that voters show government-issued photo identification before casting a ballot, with certain exemptions, violated the U.S. Constitution.

The 2005 Indiana law requires that a voter present ID at the precinct on election day, with absentee voters and residents of state-licensed nursing homes exempted. The law also exempts anyone unable to afford documentation to obtain a photo ID (typically a birth certificate) and authorizes a provisional ballot for those lacking the ID. The voter who casts a provisional ballot then has 10 days to bring a photo ID to an elections official. The same procedure applies for those who claim a religious objection to being photographed.

https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/supreme-court-upholds-indiana-photo-id-law.aspx