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Unfortunately, Mike Pence is part of the coup. Keep praying for the MOAB. We want to believe that he'll do the right thing, but every indicator tells us he won't.
NOQ Report ^ | 12/30/2020 | JD Rucker

Posted on 12/30/2020 6:44:45 AM PST by SeekAndFind

When Congressman Louie Gohmert filed a lawsuit against Vice President Mike Pence to compel him to accept the alternate electors from contested states on January 6th, I did what I often lambaste the left for doing. I didn’t read the lawsuit and hoped for the best. It’s not that I didn’t think it was worthwhile, but I figured any important details about it would come out shortly after the suit was filed.

The important detail didn’t emerge until last night, and it’s exactly what I feared the most. Apparently, attorneys for the Vice President questioned Pence’s ability to object to contested electors, prompting the filing of the suit. Deep down, I figured that was likely the case but didn’t want to face it. I wanted to believe Pence is an honorable, faith-driven, Constitution-defending man who would do the right thing when his time came. It appears I was wrong. According to Newsmax:


Before suing, Gohmert’s lawyer outlined his legal arguments in an email to the Office of the Counsel of the Vice President and eventually held a meeting by phone with Pence’s lawyers, according to the Tuesday filing.

“In the teleconference, plaintiffs’ counsel made a meaningful attempt to resolve the underlying legal issues by agreement, including advising the Vice President’s counsel that plaintiffs intended to seek immediate injunctive relief in the event the parties did not agree,” Gohmert said. “Those discussions were not successful in reaching an agreement and this lawsuit was filed.”

Gohmert also said that he failed to convince Pence’s lawyers to expedite the lawsuit by allowing the congressman to formally deliver the lawsuit by email once it was filed in court.


Do not be fooled by submission to a legal interpretation. If Mike Pence wanted to fight the coup and fulfill his oath to defend the Constitution, he would be aggressively finding ways to take the necessary actions lawfully. Instead, he and his attorneys are deflecting, hiding behind one very dubious legal interpretation that goes squarely against precedent as well as common sense. As I noted on Twitter, anyone in government who is not actively fighting against the coup is no better than the perpetrators themselves.

Is there a difference between those directly involved in the coup and lawmakers who are not actively fighting it?

No.

— JD Rucker (@JDRucker) December 30, 2020

This could be a misunderstanding. I’m not hopeful that it is, so until Pence comes out officially one way or another, we have to go with what we know. His attorneys forced Gohmert to file a lawsuit in order to demonstrate the President of the Senate has the power to reject fraudulent electors. Unless these attorneys were acting against Pence’s wishes or this is some sort of 8-D chess move, we should go forward assuming Pence will do nothing on January 6th. And that makes him part of the coup.

That also means we’re still in the same position I’ve been preaching about on the NOQ Report for weeks. We need the MOAB, the Mother Of All Bombshells, to drop. And if it does, we need to acknowledge that it was by the will of God that it happened. Countless patriots have fought to expose the coup. We’ve had over a thousand sworn affidavits detailing voter fraud. We’ve had images and videos demonstrating how it happened. We’ve had statistical analyses ad nauseam. None of it seems to be making a dent. The force field around the collective consciousness of the nation has kept the same fraudulent results intact in the eyes of both the ignorant and those in denial.

And through it all, I remain quite confident President Trump will prevail in the end. We have the truth on our side, and that’s a powerful thing. Our Father hates lies and liars, which is why I believe He will act on our behalf. I know He can. I do not know if He will. Nobody does. This is why it is imperative that we pray daily for the truth to correct this circumstance. Pray multiple times per day. Pray constantly if you can. But one thing must be said. If His will is that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are to lead this nation, then we must not question it. NO, that does not mean we should not oppose it or that we stop fighting the good fight. But only God knows His plan and we must not feel betrayed just because our limited perceptions of the situation make us believe all is terrible.

Lest we forget, a majority of conservatives fought long and hard to get Mitt Romney elected over Barack Obama in 2012. Many prayed that it would happen. And if our will had been done instead of God’s will, then Romney would have squarely planted the GOP in his lukewarm, milquetoast brand of Republicanism for one or two terms and set that course for the foreseeable future. Meanwhile, Donald Trump would never have run for office. We need to remember that our Lord works in mysterious ways… at least to us. From His perspective, it all makes sense.




TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: coup; electoralcollege; mikepence; noshitsherlock; notacoup; qtards; realitysettingin; voterfraud
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To: Vermont Lt

I guess whatever evidence Team Trump has is not appealing to the other two Branches along with most of the Executive Branch.

“The peaceful transfer of power” promises is over taking the “Trust the Plan” meme. I am not sure which one is more of a myopic fantasy.


21 posted on 12/30/2020 7:03:40 AM PST by rollo tomasi
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To: SeekAndFind

This just takes the cake.

If Pence is part of the coup, then we don’t have a choice. If we want to remain free, it’s going to mean actual war. Not courts, not legislation, actually going out with weapons in hand, locked and loaded, and taking back the country or die trying.

If Pence doesn’t do the right thing and Biden/Harris is ‘officially’ elected, the instant it happens, we need to move.

I honestly believe that if we and Trump do not win the day, the vast majority of us will either be dead or in prison camps by summer of 2022.


22 posted on 12/30/2020 7:04:36 AM PST by hoagy62 (DTCM&OTTH)
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To: laxcoach

You think there was no indisputable fraud in GA? If Pence passes he is inviable to any Trump voter in the future. Never thought Trump should have picked him in the first place, not a fighter.


23 posted on 12/30/2020 7:05:35 AM PST by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: Vermont Lt
Commander Queeg, while not clinically insane, certainly suffered from PTSD. He had been shot at so many times his nerves were frazzled.

Are you comparing Trump to Queeg?

Great movie by the way. I own a number of vintage war movies and that's always near the top of my queue. Just a little under "Battleground" with James Whitmore and Van Johnson.

24 posted on 12/30/2020 7:06:44 AM PST by LouAvul (The wheels of America are coming off and the media have stolen the lug nuts.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Pence got an envelope at H’s funeral.


25 posted on 12/30/2020 7:10:42 AM PST by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: laxcoach

Without indisputable evidence, Pence shouldn’t do what is suggested. I love Trump, hate rhinos, and I’m in GA holding my nose and voting for the R senate candidates.

But without overwhelming indisputable evidence, having a VP do this is a terrible precedent. It sets the stage that even the electors votes are meaningless.

The state legislators are the ones that could have and should have intervened in each state to name electors. The idea that the sitting VP will override the electors provided by the states, in order to maintain power is terrifying long term.

Afraid I have to agree. No one is riding to our rescue at the 11th hour. There is no good ending to this movie.

The only hope is Swamp 2.0 screws up so badly, which has an extremely high probability, that the Biden administration is even more hated than LBJ.


26 posted on 12/30/2020 7:11:29 AM PST by Flick Lives (#resist)
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To: SeekAndFind

I read article several days ago that Pence will be leaving the Country,
I guess for vacation after the Electors vote Jan 6. If true, looks like Pence
will betray Trump, then leave the country when the heat on him begins.


27 posted on 12/30/2020 7:12:05 AM PST by tennmountainman ( Liberals Are Baby Killers)
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To: SeekAndFind

He has been all along. Yet another terrible personnel pick pushed by Javonka. It is enough to make you think that Kushner has been Trump’s handler all along.


28 posted on 12/30/2020 7:12:53 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: SeekAndFind

This whole business of throwing Pence under the bus is stupid. Even if he fails to act correctly on January 6, President Trump must have more arrows in his quiver to overcome the steal. Arrows such as the insurrection act and martial law.

I would argue that even if Pence throws out the illegal EC votes, the rats would react violently enough so that martial law would need to be declared.

As I say, the whole idea of putting all our eggs in the Pence basket is ridiculous.


29 posted on 12/30/2020 7:12:57 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (I will not rest until the American People have the honest vote count they deserve. DJT 11-07-20)
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To: philippa

Yes.


30 posted on 12/30/2020 7:13:14 AM PST by View from the Cheap Seats
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To: hoagy62

And you will be crushed. As far as the state governments, the federal government, the military, etc. are concerned the results of the election are valid. Any attempt to to use violence to keep Trump in power will be seen as an illegal attempt to overturn a valid election and will be dealt with accordingly.

If Trump and his team (and Powell and Lin) had won some court cases and gotten judges to say there was election fraud/malfeasance then you might have seen some arms of the government siding with you, but without that they won’t.


31 posted on 12/30/2020 7:13:21 AM PST by OIFVeteran
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To: tennmountainman

News is just out this morning that Pence’s trip to Ireland has been canceled.


32 posted on 12/30/2020 7:14:07 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (I will not rest until the American People have the honest vote count they deserve. DJT 11-07-20)
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To: Wilderness Conservative

I got an envelope in the mailbox yesterday. just a bill.

What is your point?


33 posted on 12/30/2020 7:14:36 AM PST by Fury (.)
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To: Vermont Lt

“Can they ALL be disloyal?”

I wonder. If by chance Pence is not going to be a team player (Trump’s team, that is), I think Trump would have outed him in a tweet much the same he does others that are disloyal, such as China Mitch.

I’ve noticed a very strong propensity here at FR to be very negative in just about all respects regarding the election. The defeatism, the Debbie Downers, the posting of negative threads and the falling for negative propaganda as though it were the gospel.

We need to wait this out before we judge Pence.


34 posted on 12/30/2020 7:15:44 AM PST by redfreedom (Member of Agent Orange Health Club Since 1969)
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To: Vermont Lt

It seems that we are surrounded by traitors. That includes the “professional” de-moralizers out here on FR


35 posted on 12/30/2020 7:17:10 AM PST by clamper1797 (We are getting close to the last "box")
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To: Vermont Lt
Can they ALL be disloyal?

This is where Occam's Razor, the invaluable and enduring paradigm of wisdom articulated in the middle ages, comes into play. Given the choice between 2 possibilities, choose the one that is simpler. That is how nature works.

36 posted on 12/30/2020 7:18:34 AM PST by nwrep
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To: 9YearLurker

“ It is enough to make you think that Kushner has been Trump’s handler all along”

There are a lot of people who just have not been paying attention.

Starting with why Ivanka and not the boys. And how could a man like Jared Kushner whose reaction to his first Trump rally was fear be allowed within 100 miles of the Oval Office.

This story, I’m afraid, is going to have a very sad ending and it will hurt a lot of people here.


37 posted on 12/30/2020 7:19:26 AM PST by Jim Noble (Lo there do I see the line of my people, back to the beginning)
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To: Vermont Lt
I was thinking of Godfather 2 or the French Revolution or when Buddy Rich fired his whole band before a gig, and had to rehire them because...well..he had no band to play.

Pence was solid in the VP debates and elsewhere. This is all conjecture designed to whip us up into a circular firing squad.

And it's working. Trump is a solid President but he's not infallible (look at the AGs). He has fought every step of the way. But with the ensuing the weeping and gnashing of teeth after he signed and redlined the latest stimulus package, you'd think he was Jeb! by the commentary.

38 posted on 12/30/2020 7:20:46 AM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: OIFVeteran
And you will be crushed.

Well stated.

39 posted on 12/30/2020 7:21:03 AM PST by nwrep
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To: ZULU

“NSF?”

“National Science Foundation?”


40 posted on 12/30/2020 7:23:43 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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