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Doctor on CNN: Don’t be ‘alarmed’ if elderly die after receiving COVID vaccine
Lifesite ^ | December 9, 2020 | Pete Baklinski

Posted on 12/17/2020 5:31:34 AM PST by DoodleBob

December 9, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) – A doctor told CNN that nobody should be “surprised” to see reports of “multiple people dying” at long-term care facilities a day or two after having received the COVID vaccination.

Dr. Kelly Moore, associate director of the Immunization Action Coalition, told CNN last week that the COVID-19 vaccines have not been tested on the “frail elderly.”

"Since they haven't been studied in people in those populations, we don't know how well the vaccine will work for them. We know that most vaccines don't work nearly as well in a frail elderly person as they would in someone who is fit and vigorous, even if they happen to be the same age," said Moore.

Moore said that Americans need to be prepared for reports about the elderly dying “a day or two” after receiving the vaccine jab, adding that such deaths are a “normal occurrence” that may have nothing to do with the vaccine since such people “die frequently.”

"We would not at all be surprised to see, coincidentally, vaccination happening and then having someone pass away a short time after they receive a vaccine, not because it has anything to do with the vaccination but just because that's the place where people at the end of their lives reside," Moore said.

"One of the things we want to make sure people understand is that they should not be unnecessarily alarmed if there are reports, once we start vaccinating, of someone or multiple people dying within a day or two of their vaccination who are residents of a long-term care facility. That would be something we would expect, as a normal occurrence, because people die frequently in nursing homes,” Moore added.

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KEYWORDS: covid19; govkillednana; vaccine
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To: DEPcom

Getting rid of the elderly one vaccination at a time.


41 posted on 12/17/2020 6:13:00 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: SmokingJoe

Joe Biden should be the 1st. He wants to be our leader. I say “LEAD BY EXAMPLE PUKE” like real leaders do in combat.

I darn sure want the vaccine as I am tired of being a victim of chink BIO warfare and chink made face masks.


42 posted on 12/17/2020 6:13:10 AM PST by Lumper20 (If one never served in war-He/she should never be a Gov. Department head.)
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To: exDemMom

Not going to kill people? Perhaps. Interesting that they are preemptively warning us of deaths


43 posted on 12/17/2020 6:14:03 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: DoodleBob

But don’t worry, it will take the pressure off Medicare and Medicaid. /s

I’m sure St. Andrew saw that as a silver lining to his early on purge of nursing homes.


44 posted on 12/17/2020 6:17:24 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("Sorry, your race card has been declined. Can you present any other form of argument?")
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To: Red Badger

Don’t worry people recover from dying all the time.


45 posted on 12/17/2020 6:17:50 AM PST by Striperman (Striperman)
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To: Eagles6

But ....the scabies drug might have an adverse effect!
Even though its given out like candy in Africa (check the epidemic rate)

Absolute science establishment genocidal politics


46 posted on 12/17/2020 6:20:32 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change.)
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To: exDemMom

I would take Ivermectin if forced, Iam old and immune system vunerable.

I shall Not take the two or other coming back offerings. Why, because I don’t believe Big Pharma has My life as their first interest, it is their last thought as the first to last is MONEY.

My choice, you go ahead and get you and your family vaxed... Your choice as well.


47 posted on 12/17/2020 6:23:34 AM PST by Swiffer_Ralf (Orig. Eureka_Lead)
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To: Diogenesis

Dr. Mengele’s with the elderly instead of Jews being experimented on. When you can slaughter 40 million babies and call it a choice you can then start exterminating your elderly in medical experiments without as much as pause to consider any ethical issues. God will judge us and it will not be a favorable judgement, but damning.


48 posted on 12/17/2020 6:24:12 AM PST by sarge83
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To: DEPcom

When do RATs ever worry about saving Social Security? Bastards raided the “lockbox” years ago. They no longer care if they screw people over because there is nothing in place to stop them.


49 posted on 12/17/2020 6:28:32 AM PST by dforest (RATS are criminals and frauds. Hide anything that belongs to you. They will steal it.)
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To: DoodleBob

We need to accuse vaxxers of “killing grandma” as much as they blamed non-mask wearers of “killing grandma” just for going around without their state-mandated mouth diapers.

Hell no if we’re going to let them kill the elderly with their vaccines. Hell no.


50 posted on 12/17/2020 6:36:44 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Democrats are corruption superspreaders.)
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To: DoodleBob

I do wonder if it would be nice to be able to “die frequently” .....


51 posted on 12/17/2020 6:37:13 AM PST by punchamullah
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To: DoodleBob

Don’t be alarmed if 60% of Americans don’t take the vaccine.


52 posted on 12/17/2020 6:50:05 AM PST by G Larry (Authority is vested in those to whom it applies.)
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To: DoodleBob

Wait, people still watch and give credence to CNN? Color me stupid....


53 posted on 12/17/2020 7:12:41 AM PST by cranked
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To: exDemMom; Gay State Conservative; pepsionice; AndyTheBear; buwaya; Madam Theophilus; ...
Typical anti-vax fear-mongering usually doesn't come with commentary that the most fragile and at-risk cohort in society (elderly) weren't in the trials in a meaningful number. Thus, it's not clear how they will respond to the vaccine, though history hath shewn that vaccines have side-effects and in the case of the elderly, those side-effects could be fatal.

It is sort of a numbers game. Let's turn to actual data instead of conjecture. Massachusetts has the best disclosure I've seen across the states on cases, hospitalizations, and fatalities by age in that state. All the data that follow are for MA only, and for the two week period ending December 10, 2020.

For that time, 82% of the cases came from people under 60 years of age. Yet, the under 60 crowd accounted for only 25% of the hospitalizations in that two week period and, imagine this, 6% of all fatalities.

Let's look further at the 80+ crowd. In this two-week period in MA, they accounted for 1,783 cases, which is about 0.59% of all people 80+ in MA. On an annualized basis, that implies that people over 80 in MA have a 1.55% chance of being designated as being a COVID19 "case."

However, 338 people who were 80+ died with (but not necessarily from) COVID19. If we assume the 338 who died are in the 1,783 case count, the case fatality rate was 18.96% for the 80+ people.

This means, in order for the vaccine to be effective, it has to NOT cause complications for more than 0.59% of the 80+ lot in any two week period (1.55% annualized), and of those who get complications it can't kill more than 18.96% of them.

And we don't know how this vax will perform on them, because we (apparently) didn't do wide-spread testing on the cluster that is most at-risk. Brilliant.

Meanwhile, the firms tested this vaccine on 'younger' people, and the govt is pushing this group to get all vaxxed up. But why? In MA, for this two week period, 33 people died of the COVID or 0.078% of the two-week case count, or 0.000619% of that age cohort's population in MA (0.02% annualized). Per the CDC, that the aggregate fatality rate for all people (old and young) of influenza.

So, in conclusion, using MA as a proxy for the US, the media and society and govt are pushing a vaccine that's been tested on the people who need it least, but we don't know if the 'cure' will be worse than the virus itself for those most at risk - who you'd hope the govt wants to protect.

It's the perfect way to end 2020.

54 posted on 12/17/2020 7:42:56 AM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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PS, the 33 fatalities in MA in the two weeks ending Dec 10, 2020 were under 60 years of age. That age bracket also took up 63 hospital beds, which is 18% of all hospitalizations in MA in that period.


55 posted on 12/17/2020 7:53:52 AM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: DoodleBob

So we have a virus that disproportionately impacts the elderly and the “cure” will be less of a problem for those with little risk and potentially deadly for those that are higher risk.

How is that a win? How much better will this be vs. just having all younger people develop herd immunity first?

Our policies are completely backward. Instead of destroying lives (lock downs) of people that are younger, running businesses, and dragging out the infection rate, avoiding herd immunity, we should be doing the opposite - everyone that is younger should get the virus and let our immune system deal with it - considering it is 99.9% able to cope, vs. 90% with the vaccine.

This makes absolutely no sense...and to be told that we can only ‘have our freedom back’ once you’ve taken the vaccine is criminal.


56 posted on 12/17/2020 7:54:29 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: DoodleBob; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...
Dr. Kelly Moore paints a bleak picture.
The government wants to disarm us after 244 yrs 'cuz they plan to do things we would shoot them for!

At no point in history has any government ever wanted its people to be defenseless for any good reason ~ nully's son

The biggest killer of mankind

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don't add you to the list...


57 posted on 12/17/2020 8:00:59 AM PST by null and void (My President is a Person Of Color, Orange is a Color...)
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To: punchamullah; beaversmom; PGalt; RealVirginia
I do wonder if it would be nice to be able to “die frequently” .....

Perhaps asking someone who's had an NDE would be in order?

NDE/OOBE Ping List

I can't answer to "frequently" but I can say a single NDE is life changing.

58 posted on 12/17/2020 8:08:56 AM PST by null and void (My President is a Person Of Color, Orange is a Color...)
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To: RoosterRedux

I saw some of the ‘side effects’ which were pretty much what I had with covid, so I’d expect the results to be the same for people with other issues, they die.

Covid has always been political, the daily death rate in the US through November is basically comparable to all other years, which I guess would mean that all the old people who died from it were likely going to die anyway.

It’s a worldwide scam to acclimate people to govt authoritarianism.


59 posted on 12/17/2020 8:49:37 AM PST by allwrong57
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To: DoodleBob

It just makes me want to go out and get it right away!

NOT!!!!


60 posted on 12/17/2020 8:59:57 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith.....)
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