Do Not Buy Bad Arguments about Election Fraud. Most of the theories of election misconduct, even if proven, would not change the vote totals enough to overturn the outcome.

National Review ^ | November 11, 2020 | Dan McLaughlin

[karpov]

There’s a lot going around right now among disappointed Republicans about fraudulent or illegal behavior by Democrats in the 2020 election. Donald Trump and his most vocal supporters claim that the election was stolen. There is a disconnect here: Most of the theories of election misconduct, even if proven, would not change the vote totals enough to overturn the outcome. That does not mean that Republicans and conservatives should roll over and do nothing, but we should temper our expectations and not go chasing rumors and conspiracy theories without evidence. The goal should be to unearth genuine misconduct, expose it to the sunlight, and prevent its repetition.

Seven states were decided by less than three percentage points. Biden leads the counted votes in six of them (the other being North Carolina). Trump would need to flip 37 electoral votes in order to force an Electoral College tie, or 38 in order to be declared the winner. That means three states — four if Nevada is one and Pennsylvania isn’t. There is no precedent for anything like this, requiring a shift of over 47,000 votes to change the outcomes in Arizona, Georgia, and Wisconsin and send the election to the House, or over 74,000 to flip Arizona, Georgia, and Pennsylvania. The margin in Michigan alone is a daunting 146,137 votes, a far cry from the 537-vote margin in Florida in 2000.

[Crucial]

What level of fraud do they deem significant? Maybe Saddam Hussein levels of vote fraud?

[GOP Poet]

Says it all

[Gasshog]

Trump does not have to win all the disputed states to prevail either. As the left wants us to believe a little fraud is okay what

Will they say when a little votes in the right place give Trump the EVs to win, eh?

[cnsmom]

Yeah and the Mafia never saw Rudy coming either.

[cgbg]

NR is so _stupid_.

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How To Find A Million Fraudulent Biden Ballots (no watermark required)!

(1) Identify ballots with sole vote cast for Biden

(2) Identify the state representative (not Congress, state = small districts) for the precinct.

(3) Verify that the state representative candidates on the ballot match the state representatives that should be on ballots in the precinct.

(4) Disqualify as fraudulent any ballots where the state representative candidates and the precinct do not match.

(5) Trump/Pence is re-elected.

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While some precincts have not retained custody of their ballots, many have done so—easily enough to overturn Biden “victories” in all swing states.

[Sans-Culotte]

When they did the “Against Trump” issue, they should have just made that the name of the magazine.

[Sooth2222]

There is infinitely more evidence of vote fraud than there ever was of RUSSIA!!!!!!

I don't think Trump should ever concede the election, and if he is not inaugurated for a second term in January, he should lead the NEW resistance.

[greeneyes]

Sydney Powell has presented a very convincing argument to the contrary. The evidence, if presented in court, will be a matter of public record-perhaps the “news” should actually see what that is before concluding there’s nothing here-move on.

[old curmudgeon]

Another stupid “news” (not) story.

It is true that “2” all alone by itself is little more than nothing...not so important.

But when you add another “2” to it, it gets a little more serious.

Another “2” and we take notice.

Then add a 100 to it and it is in another ball park.

Remember the founders of Coca-Cola got rich beyond belief when a coke was only a nickle. They understood that a nickle was important. All it takes is enough of them.

[Antoninus]

The Lincoln Project has spoken. LOL.

[sauropod]

Ahoy!

Going on the NR cruise? I hear Rmoney and Michael Jello [Steele] are headlining.

/s

[snarkytart]

NR isn't good at smelling bullshit are they? Ballot dumps in the middle of the night ALL for Biden, no down ticket marked isn't suspect to them? Not one or two thousand BUT TENS OF THOUSANDS.

Statistically impossible. The elites don't want to take on mail in ballots, because like Trump it disrupts their world.

Mail in ballots with all the violations of the safe guards put in places are worthless and make us a banana Republic. Any city can hold back and pull out these ballot dumps in the middle of the night once they know what they need to win.

THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE! We're just supposed to allow these demons to get away with it like they do everything else like lying about Russia and spying on Trump, to lying about Kavanaugh being a gang rapist etc.

NR is a joke and gutless and always on the side of the left for some reason.

[Trump_vs_Evil_Witch]

Clearly the second line of DEMONCRAT TALKING POINTS defense against President Trump soon re-election.

[olezip]

Most of the theories of election misconduct, even if proven, would not change the vote totals enough to overturn the outcome.

This is the usual argument, that most of the theories of election misconduct, even if proven, would not change the vote totals enough to overturn the outcome.

This argument is NOT true all of the time, and is not a valid reason to dismiss election misconduct.

The USA has a flawed system because voter rolls are not kept clean; there is no national voter ID, and states are taking liberties with the requirement to have an Election Day, not days or weeks.

Poll watchers are being barred from their duty resulting in fraud that could effect 100s of thousands of votes. Furthermore we have voting machines that are suspect.

We need to address policies and laws that will restore the integrity of the vote.

We do not need another stupid lecture about election misconduct not changing the outcome of a vote.

[The_Media_never_lie]

Not buying it for a moment. Not worth reading. The election must be verified. If not verifiable, do over.

[WashingtonSource]

What a bunch of sorry defeatists and Benedict Arnolds.

[allwrong57]

Sure, it’s absolutely likely that Joe Hidin Biden got 1.5 million more votes than the O in 2008!

That’s all you need to look at to know there is fraud.

[Cincinnatus.45-70]

Thanks, National Review. Next time I want to hear from a pussilanimous Quisling, I’ll be sure to give you a call.

[hanamizu]

Here is my question: What is the acceptable amount of voter fraud? When is it too much?

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Of course none is acceptable, but 100 fraudulent votes where the winner wins by 100,000 means that they really make no difference to the outcome. President Trump’s challenge is to show the fraud, did in fact change the outcome of the election. If the claimed 200,000 Biden vote dump did occur, that would change the outcome. The idea that three states shut down vote counting at the same time, but may have actually continued counting after observers left and Biden miraculously ahead the next morning...

I don’t know that the election was stolen. I’m sitting at home in SE Missouri and our state’s election wasn’t stolen. But I do believe that the election is, in fact, being stolen right before our eyes and the problem for America going forward is that 10s of millions also believe this in spite of the media saying there is absolutely no evidence that it’s happening. This is the same media that 8 days ago that said there was no scandal involving Hunter Biden’s laptop.

[McGruff]

In times of trouble you find out who your true friends are. Are who are Benedict Arnolds.