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Rand Paul: Take a random sample of mail-in ballots to determine level of fraud
Twitter ^ | Nov 10 | Sen. Rand Paul

Posted on 11/10/2020 2:12:39 PM PST by RandFan

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Not so good an idea. In several states, the rules were changed in the middle of the game.

It included mailing out ballots to all registered voters in Nevada, changing the rules on mail out ballots in Pennsylvania, and changing the rules on ballot handling in Michigan.

Those are unconstituional changes, invalid under the Constitution. Only changes made by the state legislatures are allowed.

All the ballots which were affected in those states should be thrown out.

21 posted on 11/10/2020 2:27:51 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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When you have dead people voting by mail YOU have the onus to prove that your state ran a free and fair (honest) election, not the other way around. Whe your voting machine have switched thousands of votes the onus is on you to show that this was isolated. If you can’t prove these things you should either lose your electors entirely or be forced to send two sets of electors.


22 posted on 11/10/2020 2:28:01 PM PST by wiseprince
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Won’t work. Once the legal ballots are commingled with the illegal ballots, there’s no way to tell them apart and no way to check any one particular ballot.

That’s why the D’s in PA were so eager to mix the post election ballots with the legal ballots. Once they are mixed in, they cannot be checked because they are anonymous.


23 posted on 11/10/2020 2:29:19 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: RandFan

Only use non-party affiliate statistical analysis. Let them use only random generated sample approved size. On a personal note, 100% inspection may be the only valid test!


24 posted on 11/10/2020 2:30:07 PM PST by existentially_kuffer
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To: RandFan

While I think there’s some logic behind it, pulled from a
decent area with no fraud, it would be a simple exercise in
proving only one precinct was run properly, while tens or
hundred of others could have been run terribly.


25 posted on 11/10/2020 2:31:50 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I'm calling for terrorist and criminal reform. Defund them now!)
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To: RandFan

It’s a start. It won’t uncover some of the fraud since likely the evidence is missing (destroyed), but it should show something.


26 posted on 11/10/2020 2:33:00 PM PST by calenel (Tree of Liberty is thirsty.)
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To: RandFan

No. Fraudulent Biden ballots were added late in the game. Plus many Trump ballots were destroyed - hard to grab those in a random sample.


27 posted on 11/10/2020 2:33:10 PM PST by JudyinCanada (Aim low, avoid disappointment.)
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A random sample might catch certain types of fraud. For example, we might see that 10% of CA votes are from people who no longer live at the registered address.

I think the people who understand the various fraud mechanisms being used this year have better methods of identifying targets. For example, they might be able to review minute-by-minute running tallies of vote counts per county to see where large amounts of votes switched suddenly. Then the impacted counties can be be audited. This type of fraud could be easy to correct, because the paper ballots should have correct counts (if they have not been destroyed).


28 posted on 11/10/2020 2:34:02 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant (Trump is solving the world's problems only to distract us from Russia.)
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To: existentially_kuffer

I agree with your comment: 100%. I’m not sure if a random sample will uncover it all.


29 posted on 11/10/2020 2:34:23 PM PST by RandFan (3C)
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To: RandFan

You cannot check signatures once the ballot is separated from the envelope. The fraud votes are mixed in with legitimate votes and they all look the same.


30 posted on 11/10/2020 2:34:38 PM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: existentially_kuffer

Horrible idea. The mail in ballots were separated from the envelopes and inserted into the tabulation machine. There is no way to verify anything. Don’t cut corners. Throw out all mail in ballots where there is credible evidence of backdating or where it is known that late arriving ballots were not segregated. The ballot pool is irreparably tainted.


31 posted on 11/10/2020 2:35:20 PM PST by littleharbour ("You take on the intel community they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you" C. Schumer)
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To: RandFan

Good Idea? Not unless the ‘sample’ comes from the districts and precincts already flagged as statistically invalid, and includes determination based on ALL characteristics of the ballots chosen...
And, even then, it will be suspect.


32 posted on 11/10/2020 2:37:46 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. Mr Trump, we've got your six.)
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Make it a sample of 4AM votes!!

That's so dumb! We already know the hundreds of thousands of 4AM votes are all Biden's. So if you take a random sample of say 666 of those 4AM votes, they're all gonna be Biden's too, exactly as the Democrat Party vote counters expect. So it all checks out perfectly ... nothing to see here!

When will these pesky Republicans finally get it? Aargh!

33 posted on 11/10/2020 2:37:51 PM PST by gw-ington
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To: RandFan

Bad idea.
No random sample is truly random.
And the left isn’t above cheating twice.


34 posted on 11/10/2020 2:37:57 PM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: JudyinCanada
So, no way to prove the fraud? If so, Biden is President-Elect...
35 posted on 11/10/2020 2:39:08 PM PST by ToxicMich ((If you are reading this, you are wasting your time. There is nothing here...))
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To: RandFan

So a ‘small’ amount of fraud is ok then? Does that apply to bank robberies? Is say a $20 heist ok? So if I stop at 100 stop signs, can I just drive through the 101st? This guy Rand Paul needs to get real!!


36 posted on 11/10/2020 2:45:43 PM PST by eeriegeno
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To: RandFan

The problem can be solved with time stamp at depository boxes.....and an armed guard. :-)


37 posted on 11/10/2020 2:45:53 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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Terrible idea. Count the legal ballots. Throw out the illegal ballots.


38 posted on 11/10/2020 2:48:19 PM PST by Augie
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There were many levels of fraud.

Ballot forgery.
Electronic manipulation.
Late ballots.
Double counting.
Transposition.
Double voting.
...

We need a full recount and audit. They know who voted that was already dead. They know who voted that was no longer a resident. They know where they ran stacks of ballots through multiple machines for double counting. They know where they falsified vote totals. They know who voted under multiple identities.

They just have to be forced to look and disclose.

A full recount, by hand, in every anomalous state. It has to be statewide for equal protection (Bush v. Gore, 2000). Additionally, every ballot should be subject to bipartisan scrutiny and challenge.

I bet just a recount exposes so many over counting “errors” that the PA Legislature simply awards the electors to Trump. Then there is a roadmap for every other contested state. GA, MI, WI, AZ, NV.

And I’d challenge CA for good measure since they refused to follow federal guidelines and clean up their voter rolls. IL, too. I’m pretty confident the political process in those two states won’t withstand scrutiny. Oh, what the Hell, throw VA in for good measure.


39 posted on 11/10/2020 2:48:47 PM PST by calenel (Tree of Liberty is thirsty.)
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Terrible idea. Count the legal ballots. Throw out the illegal ballots.


Agree. Reminds me of the OJ glove try on fail.


40 posted on 11/10/2020 2:51:12 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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