Be careful on your route...
Posted on 11/04/2020 3:48:17 AM PST by Kaslin
Speaking from the East Room of the White House just after 2 a.m. Wednesday morning, President Trump declared he will "not stand" for Democrats trying to disenfranchise Republican voters as many states continue to tally votes.
"A very sad group of people is trying to disenfranchise that group of people [Trump voters] and we won’t stand for it," Trump said. "This [voter turnout] is a record, there's never been anything like it."
But the incumbent President was also in a sober mood, acknowledging the night hasn't gone as planned.
"We were getting ready for a big celebration. We were winning everything and all of the sudden it was just called off," he said. "We were all set to get outside to celebrate something so beautiful, so good."
On the remaining states, Trump expressed confidence in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia, North Carolina and Wisconsin.
"Most importantly, we're winning Pennsylvania by a tremendous amount of votes," Trump said.
On the issue of late vote tallies, Trump declared "a fraud is being perpetuated on the American people" and pointed to his court battle predictions about mass mail in voting. He called for vote counting to stop and said he will appeal to the Supreme Court immediately.
"We want the law to be used in a proper manner," Trump said. "Frankly, we won this election...We won this election. This is a major fraud on this nation."
President @realDonaldTrump:"So we'll be going to the U.S. Supreme Court...We will win this. As far as I'm concerned, we already have won it." pic.twitter.com/9RUw8RSYz4 — Townhall.com (@townhallcom) November 4, 2020
Trump was joined on stage by First Lady Melania Trump, Vice President Mike Pence and Second Lady Karen Pence. The room was full of supporters, Trump family members and campaign staff.
"I believe we are on the road to victory and we will Make America Great Again," Pence said.
Meanwhile, votes in Pennsylvania and Michigan may not be tabulated until the end of the week.
Delay......that’s the objective.
Do you suppose all VBM ballots are photographed? I wonder if that would that be an avenue for fraud detection.
I agree.
Yes, I’m 76 and people have taken elections too lightly as long as I can remember. I remember when Obama won in ‘08 and I was sitting waiting for a doctor’s appointment the next day when a friendly young black man asked what I thought of the election. I am not one to say something just to smooth things over. I looked at him and replied in a sad but soft voice, “Americans are no longer fit for self government.” He was disappointed but he could see that it was my sincere opinion. That opinion has only become more and more confirmed since then. Looking back I am doubtful that things would have turned out any better if McCain had won but at the time I considered him to be the lesser of two evils. I am still certain that he was ONE of two evils, just less certain of which was the worst.
Who knows how many Undocumented Kenyan Community Organizers, held their hands to markers, and sealed the envelopes to the mail boxes
This election may very well be the last time I bother with voting.
“This election may very well be the last time I bother with voting.”
I hope that it is not the last election for the whole nation.
Be careful on your route...
Did someone tell you to write that, too?
How weak is that?
There will recounts automatically depending on the margin of difference. December 14th is 40 days away. And Jan. 6th is 63 days away from today. And then, the nation will officially know who won the election after the Electoral Count is completed by Congress at the earliest, on Jan. 6, 2021.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_Count_Act
https://www.statutesandstories.com/blog_html/electoral-count-act-of-1887-and-the-election-of-1876/
Patience
Here’s some of the ACT, note the first paragraph IS one sentence...
[i]If more than one return or paper purporting to be a return from a State shall have been received by the President of the Senate, those votes, and those only, shall be counted which shall have been regularly given by the electors who are shown by the determination mentioned in section two of this act to have been appointed, if the determination in said section provided for shall have been made . . . ; but in case there shall arise the question which of two or more of such State authorities determining what electors have been appointed, as mentioned in section two of this act, is the lawful tribunal of such State, the votes regularly given of those electors, and those only, of such State shall be counted whose title as electors the two Houses, acting separately, shall concurrently decide is supported by the decision of such State so authorized by its laws; and in such case of more than one return or paper purporting to be a return from a State, if there shall have been no such determination of the question in the State aforesaid, then those votes, and those only, shall be counted which the two Houses shall concurrently decide were cast by lawful electors appointed in accordance with the laws of the State, unless the two Houses,acting separately, shall concurrently decide such votes not to be the lawful votes of the legally appointed electors of such State.
But if the two Houses shall disagree in respect of the counting of such votes,then,and in that case, the votes of the electors whose appointment shall have been certified by the Executive of the State, under the seal thereof, shall be counted.[/i]
http://www.floridalawreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Siegel-BOOK.pdf
So the states have only have judicial?
ID laws have been passed by the legislative and been overturned by the judicial state courts. That is what you mean.
The only time the SCOTUS has heard the cases on Voter ID is to determine the Constitutionality of the law passed by the State Legislature. Most of the time this had to do with minority voter suppression.
In every case Voter ID laws start with each individual State Legislature and work their way first through State Judicial up to the SCOTUS. The SCOTUS does not take every case but when they do it is based on the Constitutionality of the law itself. For those in Civics 101 this is the check of the Judicial on the Legislative. No Voter ID law started in the Judiciary so the Voter ID laws have not been dictated by the Judicial branch. Not saying I agree with all of the cases and judgements on the cases but if you don’t like it, get off FR and do something about it.
Swap the Ticket to PENCE/TRUMP for the next 8 years. Then it’s time for the Kids to follow in both Daddys footsteps.
The point is they haven't dictated voter ID laws, they have prevented them.
Not what you said. Stick to your original argument it was better.
No where in the hell did you state EO. I did as to refute and preempt any argument that may have come from your tiny little fingers.
Second, you need to know the difference between governing State, Local and Federal. It is called delegation or do you think Trump could micromanage over all the local counties and cities? That is what you are saying. Members of the party know that they need Voter ID laws to be put into place but it takes time and the right people to do so. Why do you think Trump was so instrumental in confirming Judges through the upper chamber of Congress?
Rome wasn’t built in a day and your “I wat it now” attitude is just what this country doesn’t need. So let me see you would put the onus of Voter ID laws on the President and the other bajillion things he needs to do as President all to satisfy your little tantrum about why states do not have voter ID laws.
Instead the onus is on us to see that it gets done and rightly so. We are a nation of the people and by the people. We elect representatives for us but that does not absolve our responsibility and regulate ourselves into apathy. It is called delegation for a reason and there are many people working on instituting voter id laws so they don’t suppress the minority voter (which is why 99% of all Voter ID laws have been overturned for). With this latest election, the headwinds might blow in a different direction.
SO to answer WHERE THE HELL DID YOU SAY TRUMP SHOULD DO AN EO, you didn’t but its noted that HELL is not that far off from your argument.
The point is they haven’t dictated voter ID laws, they have prevented them.
Your original post you stated the judicial have dictated Voter ID laws. Which is it? The Prevent them or the dictate them? I don’t think you know which way is east and which way is west unless you first knew which way you were going.
Don't be so obtuse, you know perfectly well what I meant. Either way Voter ID doesn't happen because of the Judges who have declared the laws, unconstitutional or some other such blather.
WOW — you are an angry person. However, I will say I’ve been around the US gov and Wash DC type for al least 25 yrs — and that’s how business is done... Federal to State -— and then on down... With that said, Trump has been busy, it’s just that “The People” haven’t done much in the way of building Rome as you say — nor have the been instrumental in getting much done on the onus of Voter ID laws... I ‘ve spoken personally to many representatives face to face on that very fact... voted for them — and then saw nothing much ever come of it... This Nation is about to go through a serious hurt if Trump doesn’t win... I’m not arguing anything... I stated it... and it can be done...
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