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Firearm Microstamping Bill Signed By Gov. Newsom
California Globe ^ | 1 October, 2020 | Evan Symon

Posted on 10/02/2020 8:17:25 AM PDT by marktwain

Earlier this week, Governor Gavin Newsom signed into law a bill that requires newer model handguns in California to be microstamped.

Gun manufacturers and firearm advocates denounced the decision, noting that it not only violates Second Amendment rights and would increase black market activity and  and non-registered weapons in the state, but would also hurt economically during a time of economic downturn.

Controversial AB 2847 signed into law

Assemblyman David Chiu. (Photo: Kevin Sanders for California Globe)

Assembly Bill 2847, authored by Assemblyman David Chiu (D-San Francisco), specifically notes that microstamping, which imprints tiny markings on cartridges that had been fired from the weapon for quicker police identification, will have to be in at least one part of the interior of the handgun, replacing the current law of having it on two or more places that had been deemed difficult by gun manufacturers and law enforcement alike. The bill will also quicken the process of having more microstamped guns instead of non-microstamped guns in circulation by removing three non-compliant handguns from the state roster of sellable handguns for every new, AB 2847 following model added to the list.

For any new handgun joining the state roster, it will also need to have a chamber load indicator and a magazine disconnect mechanism in addition to the microstamp.

Assemblyman Chiu wrote the bill to increase the percentage of identifiable microstamped guns in California and reduce the number of black market firearms in the state, helping police solve firearm related crimes quicker.

“This is a bill that will assist law enforcement in solving gun-related crimes via using micro-stamping technology and reduce the number of accidental gun deaths and injuries,” said Assemblyman Chiu (D-San Francisco) earlier this year.

(Excerpt) Read more at californiaglobe.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; ca; california; guncontrol
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To: Lurkinanloomin
Gun manufacturers should just stop selling in CA. Do not comply.

Exactly what the California government wishes to happen.

What they want is for the only legal handguns to be in government hands.

Criminals having guns just works in their favor...

21 posted on 10/02/2020 8:47:05 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

not only a patent abrogation of the 2A but effectively bans all firearms sales in the state of California as this “technology” does not exist to comply


22 posted on 10/02/2020 8:47:37 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (Politicians are not born, they are excreted. Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: marktwain

Stop selling to the government agencies, too.


23 posted on 10/02/2020 8:48:24 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
Gun manufacturers should just stop selling in CA.

California, due to its population, is the largest gun market in the US. This, in spite of all the regulations.

Also, once again, I have to ask. What is with all the Asians being so liberal? I thought they were supposed to be so smart.

24 posted on 10/02/2020 8:49:01 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Lurkinanloomin
When their security guys and police can’t get guns, they’ll change their minds.

How will your scenario work?

There are dozens of handgun manufacturers around the world.

There are hundreds of governments with arsenals of handguns they can sell to another government.

California government probably never needs more than 5,000 new handguns a year.

25 posted on 10/02/2020 8:49:39 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Disambiguator
What is with all the Asians being so liberal? I thought they were supposed to be so smart.

Even with all of California's restrictions, it is a bastion of freedom compared to virtually all governments in Asia.

26 posted on 10/02/2020 8:51:29 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: KarlInOhio

On the TV show Forensic Files....
The cops wiped a chemical solution on the area were the gun serial number was filed away....

Anyhow, they were able to retrieve the serial number....

That’s all I know about this.


27 posted on 10/02/2020 8:52:43 AM PDT by redshawk ( I want my red balloon. ( https://youtu.be/V12H2mteniE))
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To: Lurkinanloomin
When their security guys and police can’t get guns, they’ll change their minds.

As has been the case for decades, police don't have to purchase off of the approved roster. They can buy anything they want, and use standard capacity magazines to boot.

28 posted on 10/02/2020 8:53:41 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: marktwain

Hard to believe this is the state that back in 1982 turned down a handgun registration and ban. Prop 15

https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_15,_Handgun_Registration_Initiative_(1982)

So they went after rifles, and now are nibbling the handgun rights away one little bite at a time.


29 posted on 10/02/2020 8:55:36 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: KarlInOhio

A little valve lapping compound on the microstamp and good by microstamp! Or you can just buy a new part to replace the one with the stamp.


30 posted on 10/02/2020 8:57:01 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: marktwain
The new law says for each new handgun added to the roster, three of the older handguns must be removed.

Has a new (non-revolver) handgun ever been added to the Roster since the microstamping law was triggered?

So then this law is mostly a moot point.

31 posted on 10/02/2020 8:57:07 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Brian Griffin

“I can make a gun by what I can buy at Lowe’s.”

And I can find ammunition in every car with the flashy lights on top...


32 posted on 10/02/2020 8:58:58 AM PDT by glasseye (Do you have to be a criminal before you apply or do they teach you that at Quantico?)
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To: marktwain

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33 posted on 10/02/2020 8:59:58 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba ("It's a lie. It's all lies.")
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To: Disambiguator
What is with all the Asians being so liberal? I thought they were supposed to be so smart.

In Asia, only the very smartest people get to work for government. Immigrants foolishly think that rule holds sway here...

34 posted on 10/02/2020 9:01:25 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: marktwain

The solution to this is simple. Especially since guns are flying off the shelves nationwide. Simply stop selling any weapons at all to any california government agency, which would include the police.


35 posted on 10/02/2020 9:04:37 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: marktwain
Two real consequences of the micro-stamping law and one glaring fact:

Fact:

Micro stamping royalty fees and the technology required to implement mean significantly increased costs to manufacturers and even more expensive firearms for customers. California already tacks on upward of $200 per firearm in state fees and micro stamping adds much more to the cost, making firearms unaffordable to most Californians. The royalty license is also nearly impossible to get due to politics behind it and the fact that California controls it via proxy.

Consequences

1. No new handgun (and from what I've personally seen long gun) models have been introduced in California since the original legislation was passed in 2007.

2. Criminals don't buy guns legally. They buy them on the black market, steal them from gun owners, or get them buy other means. Criminals also don't want the "gimped" California compliant guns or magazines and usually buy black market guns sourced out of state, or when possible, out of the country.

Like most California legislation, Cali gun laws are intended to disarm the law abiding population so that they cannot rise up and overthrow the corrupt and power mongering Marxist politicians that control them and to empower the criminal element that they can use against the people.

It's way past time to wake up California!

36 posted on 10/02/2020 9:10:14 AM PDT by Intar
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To: marktwain

Violates the Commerce Clause.


37 posted on 10/02/2020 9:10:59 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: marktwain

We need Justice Amy on the Supreme Court. Then we need to start fast-tracking these cases there for broad, expansive pro-2A rulings.

Time to start putting these idiot states that want to deny basic human rights in their place.


38 posted on 10/02/2020 9:39:25 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: marktwain
Swap the barrel and firing pin. Dirt simple on most semi-auto pistols. Keep the original in your safe if you ever want to sell it as "original". It's just stupid technology that is easy subverted. The technology inventor has greased political palms to get a law passed so people are required to purchase their crap "solution". Pure corruption.
39 posted on 10/02/2020 10:10:07 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Mr. Jeeves
- In Asia, only the very smartest people get to work for government. Immigrants foolishly think that rule holds sway here... -

As Plato supposedly observed -

"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors."

40 posted on 10/02/2020 10:16:06 AM PDT by ken in texas
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