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Sunday Order By Judge On Matching Signatures On Absentee Ballots (Ohio)
MERCER COUNTY OUTLOOK ^ | 28 September 2020

Posted on 09/28/2020 6:05:15 AM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

Ohio Southern District Court Judge Michael H. Watson rejected voter advocates’ request to suspend rules in a Sunday order.

Judge Watson was appointed by President George W. Bush, beginning service as a Judge of The United States District Court for the Southern District of Ohio on October 1, 2004.

Ohio’s rules for matching signatures on absentee ballots to those on file are burdensome for voters but not enough to change them ahead of the Nov. 3 election

Judge Watson agreed with Ohio Secretary of State Frank LaRose that the process ensures integrity in the state’s election procedures.

Watson wrote that changing the rules a little more than a month from Election Day would be “particularly damaging.”

“Some public officials have unfortunately regularly cast doubt on the security and legitimacy of voting by mail. A federal court enjoining part of the State’s procedure for maintaining the security of mail-in voting in the weeks leading up to the election could further undermine public confidence in elections.”

The lawsuit was brought by the League of Women Voters of Ohio, the A. Philip Randolph Institute of Ohio and two Ohio voters whose primary ballots didn’t count because of mismatched signatures.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercercountyoutlook.net ...


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1 posted on 09/28/2020 6:05:15 AM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel
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To: BlackFemaleArmyColonel

While I often am in support of protect the vote type legislation... the signature thing is tuff for me personally because honestly my signature can vary dramatically.

Of course I would never vote by mail, so it doesn’t really matter in the end.


2 posted on 09/28/2020 6:13:42 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: BlackFemaleArmyColonel

“Ohio’s rules for matching signatures on absentee ballots to those on file are burdensome for voters”

Somebody please tell me how it is burdensome for the voter to sign their ballot?


3 posted on 09/28/2020 6:19:51 AM PDT by Colo9250
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I have a family member who is a former federal agent. The problem, according to her, is that even an FBI “expert” will never state to a court that a signature does or does not belong to a particular person. They will him and haw around the subject with words like “probably.”

The idea that somebody chosen by the elections board can make a comparison and say definitively that a signature does or does not belong to somebody who signed the original card twenty years ago is ridiculous.


4 posted on 09/28/2020 6:19:52 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud?)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I have no choice, there are no polls to go to in Oregon. I too have a problem with my signature, it changes. About every 4 years I go into the registar’s office and update my signature.


5 posted on 09/28/2020 6:20:10 AM PDT by thirst4truth (America, What difference does it make?)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
With the hissy fit the deep state throws over voter ID laws, signature match is about the only security left. In our precinct, we ask our workers to get the voter to sign a new affidavit if we notice the signature has changed dramatically from what is on file in the registration log to how they sign in.

Our county is actually pretty good about keeping these things updated since workers in our precinct and others in the county actually care about doing their jobs right.

6 posted on 09/28/2020 6:20:52 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyColonel

Actually, this ruling benefits the Democrats. How hard is it to sign your ballot with an “X”?


7 posted on 09/28/2020 6:22:31 AM PDT by bort
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To: TexasFreeper2009

It can vary...but you also have ID with you if they reject it.


8 posted on 09/28/2020 6:24:14 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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rejected voter advocates’ request

Don't you love the left and the way they name things. Everything is the opposite of the name, like the Affordable Healthcare Act. Voter advocates, my ass.

9 posted on 09/28/2020 6:27:03 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength." - George Orwell, 1984)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyColonel

And if they go up the ladder to the next federal court, the GOP has an 11-5 advantage over the Dems

:)


10 posted on 09/28/2020 6:27:30 AM PDT by Dana1960
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To: Sacajaweau

well, like I said I always vote in person so yes, it’s never mattered because I could just show my ID and voter registration card, ect.

But “if” I were to vote by mail, it “might” be an issue.


11 posted on 09/28/2020 6:29:21 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: Gen.Blather

The idea that somebody chosen by the elections board can make a comparison and say definitively that a signature does or does not belong to somebody who signed the original card twenty years ago is ridiculous.

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I tend to agree. I can see where democrat officials will be throwing out republicans ballots by the thousands. I think a copy of your ID should work well enough.

However, it’s up to the legislators to change, not the court.


12 posted on 09/28/2020 6:30:38 AM PDT by kara37
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To: Vigilanteman
Our county is actually pretty good about keeping these things updated since workers in our precinct and others in the county actually care about doing their jobs right.

That's sort of the rub, isn't it. I bet your county has no attempted voter fraud, because the people are decent Americans and follow the law. It probably applies to many other things, like going through a background check to buy a gun because it is the law, not because it is really needed and you have criminals running amok committing nonsensical gun violence. My point being, decent people don't need the laws. Where there are no decent people these laws are needed, but not followed.

13 posted on 09/28/2020 6:38:39 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength." - George Orwell, 1984)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

agree...but look at it another way....they could just toss your Trump vote saying it doesn’t match. I believe they do know whether you are R or D when they check your signature.


14 posted on 09/28/2020 6:39:44 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: BlackFemaleArmyColonel

I would rather the judge have ruled theConstitution gives State legislatures ALONE dominion over election rules, and that judges, thus, have no authority to intervene.


15 posted on 09/28/2020 6:41:11 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves)
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To: Sacajaweau

yeah, personally I believe anyone who votes by mail is an idiot (if they have a choice)


16 posted on 09/28/2020 6:43:54 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: thirst4truth

Since all federal election voting in Oregon is by mail, there must be no allowable tally of Oregon votes permitted for the House, the Senate, or the President.

Oregon has in effect seceded from the union and thus has no say in who can be elected or in the administration of the Federal government. As a citizen of Oregon, so far as federal elections are determined, you don’t count


17 posted on 09/28/2020 6:51:05 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) t Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay My, oh, my, what a wonderful day)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
agree totally....There's a real duty. Our forefathers traveled miles to vote. We're so damn lazy about this. I waited in line for about an hour the last time. No big deal. I have the option of going within the first 15 minutes...we'll see.

I call us the microwave generation...where you can cook a potato in 4 minutes instead of an hour in the oven.

18 posted on 09/28/2020 7:28:51 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Colo9250

Any honest person will be overjoyed and honored to sign for verification!


19 posted on 09/28/2020 7:57:48 AM PDT by SMARTY ("To choose is to invent." Sartre)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
the signature thing is tuff for me personally because honestly my signature can vary dramatically.

I have two signatures. The one I use to sign official personal documents, checks etc is rather elaborate and I hope, harder to fake. The one I use at work to sign checks and documents related to work is simpler to save the strain on my thumbs.

20 posted on 09/28/2020 10:38:42 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (Does the left like anything about America?)
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