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South China Sea: ‘If China attacks our navy, we’ll call the US’, Philippines says
https://www.scmp.com ^ | 26 Aug, 2020 | Alan Robles

Posted on 08/27/2020 11:22:16 AM PDT by RomanSoldier19

In a first under the Duterte administration, Manila says it is prepared to invoke its Mutual Defence Treaty with the US in the face of Chinese aggression

Foreign Secretary Teodoro Locsin Jnr also vows to continue air patrols over the South China Sea that Beijing has denounced as ‘illegal provocations’

Manila will invoke its defence agreement with the United States if China attacks its naval vessels in the South China Sea, Philippine Foreign Secretary Teodoro Locsin Jnr said on Wednesday.

His comments mark the first time the Rodrigo Duterte administration has openly declared it would turn to Washington for help, amid ongoing flare-ups between Manila and Beijing in the disputed waters.

Locsin, who appeared on the ANC news channel’s morning talk show, said Manila would continue air patrols over the South China Sea despite Beijing’s calls to halt what it described as “illegal provocations”.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ccp; china; philippines; southchinasea; ww3
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To: ought-six

Oh yeah...


21 posted on 08/27/2020 12:24:14 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1, Today's Special, Half Baked: 50c)
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To: jmacusa

jmacusa,
Ya got it all right there pal.
Way tired of seeing our youth killed while involved in other folks nonsense.
Let them figure it out without American blood.


22 posted on 08/27/2020 12:36:29 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ( Molon Labe' Baby, Molon Labe)
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To: Gen.Blather

Sooo
Is it time for the Chi-Coms to invade Taiwan so as to deflect from the growing economic and flooding pain?
Nooo,
Do not look here, look at those nasty Free Chinese.


23 posted on 08/27/2020 12:39:31 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ( Molon Labe' Baby, Molon Labe)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Huhh? Didn’t they kick us out of Subic?


24 posted on 08/27/2020 12:47:07 PM PDT by SMARTY (“Rudeness is a weak person's imitation of strength.” Eric Hoffer)
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To: jmacusa

Our war is here, not in the South China Sea. One of the reasons we are at war here is these bankrupting wars overseas.


25 posted on 08/27/2020 12:52:00 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: RomanSoldier19

I wouldn’t be surprised if Chinese communist agents were instigating riots in the US


26 posted on 08/27/2020 1:27:48 PM PDT by captain_dave
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To: jmacusa

Second that. Let them work it out.


27 posted on 08/27/2020 1:30:56 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: libh8er

President LockDown got gobsmacked with a heavy dose of REALITY


28 posted on 08/27/2020 1:32:07 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (See St George's Rap Sheet . . . TAG PedoJoe with "DEFUND the POLICE")
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To: All

He’ll get that “this number is no longer in service..” message.


29 posted on 08/27/2020 1:32:37 PM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: jmacusa

It’s not in America’s interest to see a fascist Chinese dictators securing the Enitire South China sea upon which most international trade depends.


30 posted on 08/27/2020 1:34:29 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: RomanSoldier19

Put us down, cut us down, kick us out of and off of bases we built.... And when the bad Chinaman attacks, call us?

Really?


31 posted on 08/27/2020 1:36:09 PM PDT by joe fonebone (Communists Need To Be Eliminated)
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To: Joe Boucher; jmacusa

I’m with you guys, for sure...esp since I have a vested interest (niece) in the Navy somewhere around there. The thing is, though, of course we will help. It’s what we do...whether it is deserved or not.


32 posted on 08/27/2020 1:56:09 PM PDT by ZinGirl (Now a grandma ....can't afford a tagline :))
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To: Joe Boucher
Amen. We send our young people into somebody else’s scrap and suddenly we're ‘’war monger's''. Enough is enough.
33 posted on 08/27/2020 10:01:29 PM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: carriage_hill

Amen. I don’t want any more of our young people being physically scared and psychologically broken fighting other peoples wars.


34 posted on 08/27/2020 10:06:56 PM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: ZinGirl

God bless your niece but really, it’s time we stopped fighting other people battles. A naval war with China? No way.


35 posted on 08/27/2020 10:21:24 PM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: joe fonebone
Right? What nerve. Talk smack to the Chi Coms and then think Uncle Sucker is going t bail you out with his blood and treasure? No way. No more.

Jabbering Third World mutts. I work in a hospital full of them. G damnit when are we going to say enough to being the worlds policeman and Motel 6 at the same time?

I caught some of Trump's acceptance speech tonight and he said no more pointless wars. AMEN Mr. President!

36 posted on 08/27/2020 10:32:32 PM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: RomanSoldier19
Far be it from me to hold a grudge (ahem) but the point in having such bases as Clark and Subic Bay was to prevent this sort of thing, and the then government of the Philippines found it politically advantageous to trash the SOFA and invite us out. And we left, as was entirely proper under those circumstances. To hear the demagogues in Manila talk it was only then that the country would achieve sovereignty and independence, and so presumably that satisfied them.

The current situation was not only predictable, it was predicted at the time - tension over the Spratly Islands in particular has been an issue between China, Vietnam, and the Philippines for decades. Open sea lanes has been a U.S. strategic priority for even longer, and our current much-diminished presence is in support of that, but such facilities were a lot cheaper to maintain than they will be to re-establish and I don't sense any political will in D.C. to attempt to recreate the old status quo in a changed, multi-polar world. U.S. imperialism may not seem such a bad thing when faced with the alternative, but I don't think it's coming back.

37 posted on 08/27/2020 10:32:59 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

I will say this, that Vietnam knows how to kick ChiCom ass.


38 posted on 08/27/2020 10:35:02 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

We don’t need a shooting war and the majority of Americans are against. Keep putting tariffs on China and make them howl. A war would bankrupt them.

If it’s a shooting war you want send a couple of MOABs into the Three Gorges Dam. Mother Nature and The Yangtze River will do the rest.


39 posted on 08/27/2020 10:36:25 PM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: Billthedrill

I was over there at that time. As I understand it, the bases agreement expired in 1992 and we did not agree to the demands of the Philippine Senate to renew the lease. We were paying $400 million to lease the bases and they were demanding $1 billion to renew. A U S Senator (Lugar ?) went over there to Discuss renewing the lease and the Philippine Senators, thinking that they had us over a barrel and could take advantage, were very disrespectful to our Senator. Typical of Filipinos! I believe that and the $1B demand is when the decision was made to give the bases back at the end of the lease.

This was well before Mount Pinatubo erupted and Pinatubo had nothing to do with the decision. I had received confidential conversations about returning “stuff” back to the States before Pinatubo happened.

This playing this China card is nothing new. Back in the early 1970’s I was in and out of the P.I. frequently and even then the P.I. Gov was threatening to kick us out and lease Subic and Cubi to the Chinese.

I first went to Subic in 1956. The U.S. Navy owned or controlled everything around Olongapo and Barrio Barretto all the way out to White Rock Beach. Olongapo had dirt streets and there was nothing between the bridge and the Victory Liner terminal except jungle

Through the years the Filipinos whined about their “sovereignty” and little by little all of the bases were transferred to the P.I. Gov.. At the main gate they put up a large sign that said “This is a Philippine Navy Base”, and under that, in small letters “A U.S. Navy Facility”.

The deal about their request for the U.S. to defend them works like this: We go there to defend them, we spend lots of money for bases, etc. They demand that we pay them $$$ in order to defend them! Then they tell us to leave, again, when they no longer feel in danger.


40 posted on 08/28/2020 12:35:35 AM PDT by topsail
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