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Sally Yates: 'I don’t remember' if Biden brought up Logan Act in Oval Office meeting on Flynn
Washington Examiner ^ | August 5, 2020 | Jerry Dunleavy

Posted on 08/06/2020 4:38:40 AM PDT by gattaca

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1 posted on 08/06/2020 4:38:40 AM PDT by gattaca
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I’ll take that “I don’t remember” as a yes.


2 posted on 08/06/2020 4:40:07 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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There goes that selective memory again. I think Hillary wore that out.


3 posted on 08/06/2020 4:42:00 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Did she add there was no transcript of the meeting, no video, and her favorite phrase is “I don’t remember.”?


4 posted on 08/06/2020 4:45:32 AM PDT by no-to-illegals ( Liberals, leftists, Rinos, moslems, illegals, lamestream media. All want America to fail and die c)
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I guess it’s a legal nuance that I don’t grasp. On the one hand, we have the Fifth Amendment that says you can’t be forced to testify against yourself. It’s an Amendment to the Constitution, so it must really mean something, right. It’s kind of a big deal. On the other hand, if called upon to testify about pretty much anything at all, you can just say “I don’t remember”. You don’t need a Fifth Amendment for that. Just “I don’t remember” and you can skip out of any kind of testimony at all. So, really, why bother to have the Fifth Amendment? Turns out you can’t be compelled to testify about anything.


5 posted on 08/06/2020 4:45:38 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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These hearings have always been a joke. The witnesses son’t tell the truth and they are never held accountable.

It is just show business for ugly people.


6 posted on 08/06/2020 4:50:01 AM PDT by shelterguy
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To: gattaca

Where’s Spock when you need him? A little bit of the Vulcan Mind Meld would do nicely here.


7 posted on 08/06/2020 4:55:18 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Just Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election!)
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She’s doing a partial Hillary, but nobody does the “I do not recall”, “I have no complete recollection” as well as the master.
There is going to be a veritable parade of “I don’t remember”s through the course of these hearings.


8 posted on 08/06/2020 5:05:55 AM PDT by glorgau
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"There is going to be a veritable parade of “I don’t remember”s through the course of these hearings."

That's why the GOP coup enablers waited a few years. "I don't recall," is far less credible if the event took place two months ago. Give a 3-4 year cushion and, "I don't recall," is easier to sell.

9 posted on 08/06/2020 5:10:42 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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It is amazing how these highly respected and professional government employees all suffer from memory problems. It really is a pandemic. Me thinks all government employees should be laid off until there is a vaccination. Additionally, they should wear helmets (like the kids on the short bus). It’s for their protection, heavy forbid they suffer another brain related injury. We need to do everything we can for their safety.


10 posted on 08/06/2020 5:18:00 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength." - George Orwell, 1984)
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Did they ask her “Who’s Buried in Grant’s Tomb?”

Obama’s regime is beginning to sound more and more like rejects from the oldtime quiz show....”It Pays To Be Ignorant.”


11 posted on 08/06/2020 5:31:01 AM PDT by Liz
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Ah, the ol’ hillary defense...”I don’t recall”. Arrest and waterboard these criminal seditious losers. Then, they will “remember”.


12 posted on 08/06/2020 5:39:59 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp???)
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Comey needs some pokie time.
13 posted on 08/06/2020 5:41:07 AM PDT by wardamneagle
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That whole freakin’ party has a case of dementia.


14 posted on 08/06/2020 5:44:08 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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We’re supposed to believe Biden sat quietly through this meeting. Okay.
15 posted on 08/06/2020 5:48:58 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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Holding hearings on a timely basis, instead of 4 years after the fact, would obviate the “not remembering” game. Having skill in examining witnesses would come in handy too.


16 posted on 08/06/2020 6:02:26 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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Explains the goofy OMG! face on the goon-faced Halfrican when he met the impressive president-elect.
The dirt Hillary was supposed to sweep under the rug is now in the hands of the man the Halfrican tried to destroy.

"After all we did for her, that lousy Hillary lost. "How’m I gonna get out of the mess I’m in?"
"I know, we’ll invent Russian collusion..lie like crazy...setup Trump to take the blame.”

17 posted on 08/06/2020 6:03:22 AM PDT by Liz
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Keep in mind, all of this is a con.......sadistic Democrats gleefully sowing confusion among the electorate in a 1000 ways.

They’re so perfect at sowing confusion into the political milieu with a lie, a smile and an apology.............its all so terribly, terribly Democratic.

It has only just begun.

Obama’s pathetic effort to cover-up the spying —— saying it was to “protect” Trump.

IF-—big IF-—protecting Trump was the reason for spying.....why was Trump not advised of this?

Taken another way, it was criminal not to tell Trump he was in danger and needed protection.


18 posted on 08/06/2020 6:04:54 AM PDT by Liz
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....claiming that neither Obama nor Biden tried to influence any investigation during the small meeting on Jan. 5, 2017, ....

Then, why have a meeting?????


19 posted on 08/06/2020 6:13:42 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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No, You Are Not Insane. None Of This Makes Any Sense
Kira Davis

Next let us turn to a letter sent by former Amb. Rice’s attorney to Senator Chuck Grassley on February 23, 2018, responding to questions he had directed in writing to former Amb. Rice, including some questions about her January 20 Memorandum and the January 5 meeting. The letter to Sen. Grassley included the following:

The memorandum to file drafted by Ambassador Rice memorialized an important national security discussion between President Obama and the FBI Director and the Deputy Attorney General.

Right there Amb. Rice’s attorney preserves with her language the possibility that only 3 people were in the room when the topics referenced in Amb. Rice’s Memorandum were discussed. She excludes from her description any other participants in this discussion, which is consistent with Yates’ interview with the SCO.

President Obama and his national security team were justifiably concerned about potential risks to the Nation’s security from sharing highly classified information about Russia with certain members of the Trump transition team, particularly Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn.

This language allows for the later “parsing” to clarify that the “concerns” were the product of discussions between the “national security” team prior to the meeting, not that other members of the national security team were present at the meeting, although that is the most natural reading of the language used. The way the sentence is phrased, one could easily draw the conclusion that the discussion regarding concerns over Gen. Flynn on Russia issues were expressed/discussed in the meeting by other members of the “national security team” — including former Amb. Rice — when, in fact, the actual discussion of Gen. Flynn only took place in the “follow-on” meeting. The letter never addresses who was present in the follow-on meeting — including whether former Amb. Rice was present — as stated in her Jan. 20, 2017 memo.

The letter goes on:

In light of concerning communications between members of the Trump team and Russian officials, before and after the election, President Obama, on behalf of his national security team, appropriately sought the FBI and the Department of Justice’s guidance on this subject.

Once again, the very precise language employed preserved the ability to clarify that only Pres. Obama was present when Gen. Flynn was discussed, and Dir. Comey and Deputy Attorney General Yates were the only officials to whom he addressed his concerns. So we are back to there being only three people in the meeting — just as Sally Yates recalled when answering questions from the SCO investigators.

In the conversation Ambassador Rice documented, there was no discussion of Christopher Steele….

That strikes me as an odd way to describe a meeting that Amb. Rice was present for, and a conversation that she heard or participated in. It is a “third party” phrasing that you would use in order to preserve the potential to explain “Well, I wasn’t there, but I was documenting the conversation based on the description I was given by people who were in attendance.”

… upon the advice of the White House Counsel’s Office, Ambassador Rice created a permanent record of the discussion. Ambassador Rice memorialized the discussion on January 20, because that was the first opportunity she had to do so,….

Again, focus on how much care was taken with the language to not overtly suggest or imply that former Amb. Rice was actually present when the conversation she had supposedly “memorialized” took place.

Ambassador Rice memorialized the discussion in an email sent to herself during the morning of January 20, 2017. The time stamp reflected on the email is not accurate, as Ambassador Rice departed the White House shortly before noon on January 20.

Here is where she might have inadvertently “mouse-trapped” herself. This memorandum was an official government record if she sent it prior to the end of her term as National Security Advisor. If, in fact, she was not present for the “follow-on” meeting when Gen. Flynn was the subject of the conversation between Pres. Obama, Comey, and Yates, then her statement in the memorandum “Vice President Biden and I were also present” during the follow-on meeting she described, is a “false statement”, and a potential violation of 18 USC Sec. 1001.

The statement is material because she is falsely making herself out as a witness to what was said in a meeting that is relevant to any investigation of how the Flynn matter was started, and the natural tendency of her language is to influence investigators to want to interview her.

This leads to the question “Why would she place herself in the room if she wasn’t really there?” And if she wasn’t there, who was her source for the details of the discussion about Gen. Flynn between Comey and Pres. Obama as reflected in the paragraph just now declassified?

If only three people were in the meeting, one of those three had to be the source of the details that she “memorialized.” There seems to be no chance that it was Yates or Comey, so that leaves only Pres. Obama. So what her Memorandum really reflects is Pres. Obama’s version of what was discussed between himself, Comey and Yates.

Andy McCarthy has posited — convincingly in my view — that the true purpose of the Memorandum written by Rice was to allow Pres. Obama to point the finger of blame at Comey for whatever might happen in the aftermath of the transition into power of the Trump Administration. According to Rice’s Memorandum, Pres. Obama told Comey to do everything “by the book”, and if Comey did not do so then Comey — and only Comey — was to blame.

Did Rice put herself present in the room just so she could avoid setting forth in the Memorandum that the details she memorialized had come from Pres. Obama? Was she playing the “loyal soldier” by creating the impression that Obama’s version of the conversation had at least one supporting witness — herself — rather than have it as a “He said, He said” between Pres. Obama and Jim Comey at some future point in time?

Whichever answer is true, neither is a defense to the crime of violating Section 1001.

This is at odds with what Sally Yates told the Special Counsel’s Office (SCO) during an interview on August 15, 2017. The Memorandum of this interview is attached to the DOJ motion to dismiss the prosecution of Gen. Flynn, marked as Exh. 4. In that interview Yates told the SCO the following:

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


20 posted on 08/06/2020 6:26:47 AM PDT by Liz
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