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How do you deal with people who refuse to wear a mask? Experts weigh in with advice
Pennlive ^ | 14 July A.D. 2020 | Sue Gleiter

Posted on 07/14/2020 4:38:03 PM PDT by lightman

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To: kaehurowing

1. Shame them and force them out into the street.
2. Call the police, take pictures of them and report them for violating the law. They will get a $2,000 citation.

3. File a public nuisance complaint against them.

4. Publish their pictures and locations on social media.

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That is an impressive list. Good work comrade.


101 posted on 07/14/2020 5:27:49 PM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing America's youth on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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To: RummyChick

I have sleep apnea so getting as much oxygen as I can is vital. Probably could get an exemption but then what? Wear the exemption letter?


102 posted on 07/14/2020 5:27:58 PM PDT by AU72
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To: mistfree

NO, the vast majority of studies say you need to wear a mask. Here is a link to 70 studies on the matter:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ho40c4/if_someone_asks_whats_the_evidence_for_mask/


103 posted on 07/14/2020 5:28:28 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: SmokingJoe

Careful...I think that’s Fauci you’re talking to


104 posted on 07/14/2020 5:29:18 PM PDT by goodnesswins (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution." -- Saul Alinksy)
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To: lightman

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/04/commentary-masks-all-covid-19-not-based-sound-data


105 posted on 07/14/2020 5:29:36 PM PDT by ejorde
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To: jonrick46

‘As long as the American public flaunts the pandemic, the U.S. will continue to have the millstone of the pandemic dragging our economy down’

ah yes; the anti maskers are the ones causing the economy to crater...has nothing whatsoever to do with crazed, over controlling, overreaching and drunk with power governments at all levels, federal, state and local, right...?


106 posted on 07/14/2020 5:29:54 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: lightman

As someone said earlier. I would wear a mask if I could find one that did not inhibit my immune system.


107 posted on 07/14/2020 5:30:04 PM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing America's youth on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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To: RummyChick
Along comes employee swinging right by you as he swivels his maskless head because he is wearing it under his chin despite local, state, and employer laws... shouting at another employee.
You just got a shot of Covid if he has it.

Considering they have to shove a long Qtip up your nostril, practically to your brain, to get a sample to test, I'd like to know how you got a "shot" of China Virus...

109 posted on 07/14/2020 5:30:29 PM PDT by jeffc (I'm a Patriot, and the media are our enemy)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

They can leave, running out of the store in tears.


110 posted on 07/14/2020 5:31:32 PM PDT by GreyHoundSailor
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To: IrishBrigade

And absolutely nothing to do with burning, looting, rioting, raping and pillaging thugs!


111 posted on 07/14/2020 5:31:36 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: coaster123

I find it unnecessary to repeat myself..


112 posted on 07/14/2020 5:33:17 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: SKI NOW

This is what I would. I don’t care. Just leave me alone.


113 posted on 07/14/2020 5:33:33 PM PDT by funfan
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To: IrishBrigade

Doesn’t have anything to do with the fact that I know someone who has it

It has everything to do with the fact that it is unclear how my conditions ..which could be a perfect storm...will react to COVID 19. Experts just dont know...

Come on tell me. As one example... Can someone with Vasodepressor Syncope be assured they wont have problems taking HQC as soon as symptoms first appear. You dont know. Drs dont know. Syncope involves Qt issues...and they sure as heck dont know about thalassemia. They do know about Von Willebrand Factor....and what about abnormally low LDH ,high blood pressure and sleep apnea.

Not to mention that our family has already had someone die from a cytokine storm so there could be a genetic quirk

I absolutely will continue to wear a mask and a face shield while this sorts itself out. GTFO with your BS telling me I wont have a problem with COVID

YOU HAVE NO IDEA IF I WILL OR I WONT


114 posted on 07/14/2020 5:34:13 PM PDT by RummyChick (Stop Apologizing for things you didn't do. Stop Demanding Apologies when refuse to forgive)
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To: lightman

Nowhere does it address the communication problems that masks present to those folks that are hearing disabled and must lip-read; not everyone knows sign language.


115 posted on 07/14/2020 5:35:02 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: coaster123

But I’ll play your silly game. Lets say you’re the asshole who gets in my face about my not wearing a mask. How far are you going to go to make me comply if the store turns a blind eye on my maskless appearance?


116 posted on 07/14/2020 5:37:44 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: WildHighlander57

Actually the Governor’s order does make provision for unmasking when addressing persons who are hearing impaired...reiterated in the Department of Education requirements for schools.


117 posted on 07/14/2020 5:37:47 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: jeffc

My brother lives in Central FL. He is a moron. I hope you fare better.


118 posted on 07/14/2020 5:38:05 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: kaehurowing

And here’s mine, Check

By making mask-wearing recommendations and policies for the general public, or by expressly condoning the practice, governments have both ignored the scientific evidence and done the opposite of following the precautionary principle.
In an absence of knowledge, governments should not make policies that have a hypothetical potential to cause harm. The government has an onus barrier before it instigates a broad social-engineering intervention, or allows corporations to exploit fear-based sentiments.
Furthermore, individuals should know that there is no known benefit arising from wearing a mask in a viral respiratory illness epidemic, and that scientific studies have shown that any benefit must be residually small, compared to other and determinative factors.
Otherwise, what is the point of publicly funded science?
The present paper about masks illustrates the degree to which governments, the mainstream media, and institutional propagandists can decide to operate in a science vacuum, or select only incomplete science that serves their interests. Such recklessness is also certainly the case with the current global lockdown of over 1 billion people, an unprecedented experiment in medical and political history.
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119 posted on 07/14/2020 5:38:39 PM PDT by mistfree (Virginia Freeper)
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To: RummyChick
Can someone with Vasodepressor Syncope be assured they wont have problems taking HQC as soon as symptoms first appear.

Can someone with VDS have problems wearing a mask? Seems like a possibility.

Wear a mask if you want, real conservative won't condemn you, Leftists will if you don't. Please don't try to force it on people who still like their freedoms and don't give a damn about what the government says.

120 posted on 07/14/2020 5:39:32 PM PDT by jeffc (I'm a Patriot, and the media are our enemy)
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