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Seattle will move to dismantle ‘CHOP’ protest zone, Mayor Durkan says
Q13 Fox ^ | 6/22/2020 | Q13 News Staff

Posted on 06/22/2020 6:53:10 PM PDT by catnipman

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To: nikos1121

He’s not going to get reelected unless he shows some more resolve in stopping these things. It’s not that people are going to vote for Biden or whoever the Dems finally run, it’s that GOP voters are not going to turn out.

They’re already scared and frustrated, seeing their cities burned down or taken over all around them with no response from the Federal government. And believe me, by November, if Trump even survives that long, the rioting in the streets is going to be so bad that nobody without a safe pass from BLM will even be able to get to the polling place.

Trump has got to get serious and stop this now. You may think it’s fun to sit back and let them destroy each other, but it’s doing terrible things to our national morale and also to our image abroad (and thus undermining our foreign policy).


141 posted on 06/23/2020 2:04:21 PM PDT by livius
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To: Cobra64

Depends on caliber.

I think some types of 40mm grenade anti-personnel rounds are still loaded with 00 buckshot - which is essentially the same as grapeshot. If I recall correctly, most everything in larger calibers (that had an anti-personnel type round in its product line) was switched over to flechette decades ago.

A unit I was assigned to in Vietnam once initiated a night time ambush with flechette rounds...fired by two M48 tanks about a thousand meters away. Set the rounds to burst just in front of the NVA as they were assembling after a small river crossing using previously concealed boats. Unfortunately, for the NVA, my unit had found the boats, guessed what they were for, and decided to monitor the site (instead of destroying the boats). Preplanned action. Once alerted, a Marine platoon (at a safe setback distance)was positioned to finish off what the flecheete didn’t kill.
Post-action clean-up was a mess.

Yes, properly executed, war is murder, pure and simple. As William Munny said in “Unforgiven”: “Fair has got nothing to do with it.”

That’s why police officers and soldiers are not and should not be considered as interchangeable. Entirely different attitudes towards the application of force and entirely different weapon sets. If the troops are called in to restore order, the civil authorities have moved beyond caring about individual “rights.”

Law and order is not a racist dog whistle, it is the civil, peaceful environment in which society (and law) functions. Ultimately, the state will, if necessary, kill its own citizens to maintain and/or restore it. If it is unable (or unwilling) to do that, the state falls. And rightly so.

Seattle is going to be a very interesting case of whether or not Democrat “leadership” is up to wielding sovereign power for the people under all circumstances. I personally think it will fail because it is too compromised by its left wing.


142 posted on 06/23/2020 2:27:40 PM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow.)
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To: EnglishOnly

Or an adult group home for the mentally challenged.


143 posted on 06/23/2020 2:28:14 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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To: catnipman
Cut the electric, water, and cell phone towers servicing that area. Blockade all deliveries in.

Set up one very controlled exit point, where the Commies can be processed, interrogated, then transported in shackles to the waiting C-130's for movement to Gitmo for a nice long tropical resort vacation.

144 posted on 06/23/2020 2:42:57 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Make American Intelligence Great Again.)
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To: ASA Vet
Lose the grid or lose your job.


145 posted on 06/23/2020 2:48:29 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: catnipman

Why would you announce it? Just do it.


146 posted on 06/23/2020 2:55:38 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: miliantnutcase
Why would you announce it? Just do it.

When you have to shoot, shoot ! Don’t talk. ~ Tuco

147 posted on 06/23/2020 3:04:22 PM PDT by csvset (tolerance becomes a crime when attached to evil)
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To: Libloather

What ever happened to the poop cannons? I want to see the poop cannons in action on Capitol Hill. It would be a riot to see these little turds lose control of their bowels.


148 posted on 06/23/2020 3:15:01 PM PDT by ponygirl (An Appeal to Heaven)
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To: miliantnutcase

“Why would you announce it? Just do it.”

indeed ...


149 posted on 06/23/2020 3:34:15 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: ASA Vet

the anarchist live on the streets and that park, but NOT in the building that adjoin those streets, which are private residences and businesses, so not really possible to cut utilities or even cell phone service ...

what WOULD be possible is to block the ends of all of the “occupied” streets with large dump trucks parked end-to-end with a single egress point as you suggest, but NO ingress or anything or anybody ... it prevent egress, police would have to form a line along the outside of the truck barriers, and another group of police would need to be stationed a block away to surround any trouble makers attacking the barrier police line ...

moreover, once ALL of the anarchists have been evacuated, the entire area would still need to remain blocked off to prevent re-entry AND to repair all of the vandalism that had occurred, including seal-coating all the streets to obliterate the street graffiti, and removal and/or painting all graffiti on building facades ... and the East Precinct would be completely restored to full functionality ... all of this has to be done before removing the barrier ...

additionally, police would have to be alert to subsequent attempts to reform the anarchy zones and move in and nip them in bud right off the bat as other cities throughout our nation have done, thereby squashing anarchy zones in the early fetal stage, when such squashing is mostly easily done ...


150 posted on 06/23/2020 3:43:32 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: suthener

“What’s the feckless idiot going to do if the 1% of them who are not psychotic women and Trudeau wannabes brace up with ARs on the barricades? Not saying it will happen, but how many good guys lives will she to put in danger because she didn’t nip in the bud?”

i think that’s the real question ...


151 posted on 06/23/2020 3:44:44 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Captain Rhino
Thank you for your service, sharing your experience and ordnance used against the enemy.

I understand the different roles of civilian law enforcement and the military. Cops are trained to prevent personal and property damage, the use of chalk and yellow tape; whereas the military is trained to “kill people and break things.“

152 posted on 06/23/2020 4:12:28 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: catnipman

Perhaps President Trump made her an offer she couldn’t refuse


153 posted on 06/23/2020 6:34:52 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Be still, and know that I am God...Psalm 46:10)
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To: hardspunned

Whaddya mean? She let ‘em do it in the first place trying to bear-bait Trump into making a false move. She’s sympatico!

Needs to be strung up from a lamp post...


154 posted on 06/23/2020 10:09:03 PM PDT by HKMk23 (You ask how to fight an idea? Well, I'll tell you how: with another idea!)
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To: HKMk23

I mean more of the same old hypocrisy. Using her previous statements as she was cheerleading these thugs, she needs to be locked up if she even so much as says boo to those felons.


155 posted on 06/24/2020 5:20:50 AM PDT by hardspunned (MAGA, now more than ever)
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To: ConservativeInPA
She should be hanged in a public square for treason. (Preferably with a short rope.)
With the "noose" that freaked out Bubba
156 posted on 06/24/2020 9:21:32 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (Virtue signalling is no virtue)
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To: ConservativeInPA
She should be hanged in a public square for treason. (Preferably with a short rope.)
With the "noose" that freaked out Bubba
157 posted on 06/24/2020 9:31:16 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (Virtue signalling is no virtue)
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