Posted on 06/12/2020 10:18:07 AM PDT by Red Badger
The Uniform Code of Military Justice prohibits using "contemptuous words" against the president.
Retired four-star military officers who lambasted President Trump could be recalled to active duty and prosecuted for violating the U.S. Code, military law experts told Just the News.
“Retired officers can't make contemptuous remarks of the commander-in-chief,” said John Dowd, a former Marine Corps Judge Advocate and former Trump legal advisor. “They’re all subject to recall. They’re subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice until they die.”
The pertinent law is Title 10 of the U.S. Code, Section 888, the experts said.
“As part of the UCMJ, governing military law, you cannot use contemptuous words against certain officials, including the president,” one active duty Army Judge Advocate General Corps officer said. “That is a court-martial offense, and yes, you can be recalled to active duty to be court-martialed.”
The outspoken retired officers know they could be held to account, the JAG officer said.
“I don't know who the hell they think they are,” Dowd said. “It’s stunning to me. I guess the law doesn’t apply to them.”
The retired officers comprise some of the biggest marquee military names in recent times. They include former Defense Secretary Gen. James Mattis and former Special Operations Command chief Adm. William McRaven.
With increasing frequency over the past couple years, and in quick succession over the past week, they have leveled serious accusations against Trump, and have called for him to be removed from office.
In late 2019, McRaven published a New York Times op-ed titled "Our Republic Is Under Attack From the President," and later told CNN interviewer Jake Tapper that Trump is working to destroy the country.
On June 7, former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Colin Powell — also speaking to CNN’s Tapper — said that Trump has “drifted away” from the U.S. Constitution. Elsewhere, Powell said Trump “lies all the time,” and called him a “menace.”
Retired Lt. Gen. John Allen, who commanded U.S. forces in Afghanistan, said in an interview that the Constitution is under threat — not from violent anarchists, but from the president of the United States.
Retired Gen. Barry McCaffrey, who led U.S. Southern Command and served in Bill Clinton’s cabinet, denounced Trump as a threat to national security. Former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Adm. Mike Mullen — who in 2012 surrendered his computers to the FBI in the course of a cybersecurity investigation — accused Trump of giving succor to foreign detractors.
Last week, Mattis launched his own salvo.
“We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership,” Mattis wrote about Trump in The Atlantic. “We can unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society,” he said, adding Trump made a mockery of the Constitution.
Amid publicity surrounding the comments, the retired officers rallied around one another, giving virtual salutes and fist-bumps.
McCaffrey posted on social media his support of Powell and Mattis. He tweeted a Tik Tok video mocking Trump, and made fun of Mattis critic Sebastian Gorka, calling him “a childish fraud.”
Members of the military community who are not retired four stars questioned the chorus of denunciation.
"The sudden rush by retired flag officers to come out and declare the commander-in-chief to be the greatest threat to our Constitution, is nothing short of abhorrent,” Army veteran Chad Longell told Just the News. “While rioters loot and burn the country, while anarchists attempt to take over an American city, and while many are now calling for the abolition of entire police departments, these leaders think the president's style is the greatest threat to our country?”
In an open letter published online, one former Marine Corps officer called “Mad Dog” to task. “Who do you think you are to speak out in such a disgraceful manner against a sitting president?” wrote retired Col. Jim Bathurst. “Do you believe your rank entitles you to talk such trash?”
One active duty enlisted soldier and combat veteran said he is deeply disappointed by the retired flag officers’ comments.
“I thought our leaders are supposed to be neutral,” the soldier said. “They are acting like political partisans. That, and the level of groupthink mob mentality, shakes me to my core.”
Said Longell, who served tours in Iraq and Afghanistan: “What world are they living in?”
Retired and active duty military questioned why the vocal four-star officers previously remained silent on issues and policies that sent American troops to their deaths.
“Where were they during the Obama administration, when the rules of engagement (ROE) were getting American soldiers killed?” demanded retired Infantry officer and combat veteran Jim Lechner, a history professor. “The administration imposed an unworkable strategy and ROEs that were criminal. Why didn’t these flag officers speak up about that?”
In 2015, when asked directly by this reporter about the rules of engagement and whether they endangered American lives downrange, McRaven declined to answer.
In his own open letter, Dowd asked Mattis why he did not stop one notorious enemy.
“Perhaps you ought to explain how and why you (and John Allen), as [Commanding General] Central Command, did not engage and take out Iranian Major General Soleimani who roamed the Middle East and wreaked havoc and death of American boys with his infamous IEDs,” wrote Dowd.
Dowd said that he received a response from Mattis, and that their exchange — which he did not share — was “pleasant.”
The retired flag officers have been praised by supporters who believe their comments are warranted and helpful. And, while the criticisms of Trump could bring consequences via the military justice system, charges likely will not be filed, the JAG officer said.
“Could they be recalled to active duty and prosecuted? Yes,” the officer said. “Will they be? Highly unlikely.”
The effects of their words, though, ripple through the ranks.
“The only people who are politicizing the military are the flag officers who are telling our current service members that their commander-in-chief is the greatest threat to our republic,” Longell said. “I can barely think of anything as dangerous to our nation [as] to inject such a thesis as that into the already highly volatile chapter of our history we are in.”
Longell and three other active duty soldiers who spoke to Just the News report wanting neutrality and unity from senior leaders, including those who are retired.
Said Longell: “As a veteran who has tremendous respect for many of these leaders, it is with a painful feeling of disbelief and disappointment that I watch them now become tools of the very dangerous flames of political opportunism which threaten our great republic."
Flynn, Manafort, Stone...no “potentially’s” there, of course.
That’s why MacArthur said old Soldiers simply fade away.
The Trump Admin should reactivate any retired office or of Colonel rank and above that shoots off their mouths and send them to man a forward operating base in Afghanistan.
Bust them to privates.
DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Make an example of him!!!
But they know they won't be.
Hasn’t there been at least 20+ attempts already?
How many of these were retained by Obama, while he got rid of military officers who were not OK with his socialist/Muslim agenda.
Realize Flynn knows where the bodies are buried, and how deeply McCain, Obama, and Clinton were involved with the establishemnt, funding, and arming of ISIS.
Obama fired many high ranking military members. They were the good guys. He kept the political hacks to do his bidding. They sold their soul and may not even know it. One positive is they are retired. They may be hurting Trump and military morale by such rhetoric. But, at least they are not making anymore bad decisions costing them their lives.
The world is a better place with them gone.
They know it...even I at a much lower retired rank know it. They also know it won't be enforced on them. Let them talk...they're telling us what the active officers are saying secretly. The active officers are sending a message through the retired generals to Trump. They're warning him that his orders will be ignored if they don't like them. Their defense will be that they think the orders are illegal, even if they aren't.
They are aware that they could be. They are aware if this was obama or Hillary Clinton they would be. They also know since this is President Trump they won’t be. Those that are doing this probably have gotten assurances via back channel communications that no action will be taken against them. Their superiors are also enemies of President Trump.
Hi.
“When they’re found guilty, I suggest firing squads”
IIRC Article 89, is 5-10 in Leavenworth.
Don’t shoot me.
5.56mm
They know this. They are disloyal jerks. I hope they do get recalled.
You are wrong about that. They are still generals and need to follow the law.
I think they should be prosecuted. Flag officers demand respect under the UCMJ so the law should be followed.
Retired Master Chief Petty Officer.
https://www.lawfareblog.com/law-retired-military-officers-and-political-endorsements-primer
Nope. They are still subject to the UCMJ.
Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Homeland Security, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.
It doesn’t mention while on active duty so I must assume that the law still applies after leaving active duty
I think it’s preemptive positioning for when Gen. Flynn is vindicated and able to speak freely. I think he knows where all the bodies are buried.
Dang.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.