Posted on 06/05/2020 3:37:41 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
Martin Gugino — the 75-year-old man who was shoved to the ground by Buffalo police in a video seen by millions — is a long-time peace activist and “gentle person,” according to friends.
The resident of Amherst in Erie County is a member of the People United for Sustainable Housing Buffalo and anti-nuclear group Kings BayPlowshares, the Buffalo News reported.
“He’s a gentle person who really believes that he must stand up for what he thinks is right,” said Gugino’s pal Terrence Bisson. “That’s why he went to the demonstration. He would never resist physically any kind of orders. He’s a bit frail, not because of his age. He has some health problems.”
The two have worked together at the Western
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How do you know what was going on with him?
He could have been a crazy old nut trying to relive his young activist days who became threateningly aggressive toward the police - or he could have been a crazy old nut who was harmless but in need of something.
It’s amazing to me that so many people - who seem to realize that journalism today, and videos posted online, often lie and misrepresent the truth - are willing to take a stand on something about which they know so very little.
Why don’t we all wait, until we know all of the details of what actually happened?
(I know that wouldn’t be acceptable - not to the firebrands here nor the liberals who want to make disruptive hay out of everything. In recent days, there hasn’t seem much difference between them.)
It seemed that he was poking the bear to get the reaction he got so he could appear to be a bloody mess to set up the cops.
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I’ve read that and I’m waiting to see it confirmed, because it would certainly not surprise me.
it was a situation where one dominant and perhaps too aggressive cop intimidated the others.
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I’m glad you have rendered that judgment so I and everyone else who watched the altercation and got it wrong now stand corrected!
Yup. Don’t touch a cop when he is telling you to back up.
Imagine what they would do to a squaw.
What the cops did to him is outrageous.
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He’s lucky he was only knocked on his ass. Anyone who interferes with law enforcement should, at a minimum, be neutralized, and if they get hurt it’s primarily their own fault.
Me too. No one should be allowed to use that word except me.
Law enforcement is too militarized, too full of its own sense of mission, too ready to see citizens as an enemy to be neutralized.
Well, if you keep using it, you’ll sound just like the career politicians in my ‘blue’ state.
Whenever I wrote or called them complaining about the latest liberal nonsense, they wrote back without answering my questions, but twisting my concern to their own agenda and saying that they were ‘outraged’ over what the Conservatives were doing.
The dictionary is full of words. I suggest you find a less over-used and hackneyed one :-)
Nonsense, I’m a girl and my brother gave me a military shove like that once when he was losing an argument over a matter where he was abusing his older sibling privileges - and while surprising [especially if it comes from your heretofore harmless brother], it just sets you on your backside where the weight of your fall is evenly distributed.
And no, he’s not an abusive person, he was simply trained to react to someone making a movement towards his chest. I had pointed my finger and was about to poke him there as a physical way of saying the discussion was over, and his reaction was to keep me out of his personal space.
As it happens, you’ll get a similar response from a parrot, especially a macaw, even the friendliest one, if you make the same move and get near their breast area. We used to have one heck of a time in our pet store keeping people who don’t read signs and are ignorant of bird behavior from making moves like that towards the big birds.
Then there were the types who did it anyway, stuck their finger in the bird’s face or chest while the bird was on its perch and threatened to sue us after getting nailed... but we never had a single case of a bird leaving its perch or play area in order to go bite anyone.
What we have here is a case where every protester who gets hurt is getting hurt by either directly targeting other people or property belonging to other people, or by deliberately attempting to block the movement of others. I’d call that systemic stupidity.
Oh, please, plenty of people were there helping him. He even had one of his fellow protesters positioned to record it who could have jumped in at any time but the person with the camera didn’t bother. Guardsmen were right there checking him out in the blink of an eye.
Law enforcement is too militarized, too full of its own sense of mission, too ready to see citizens as an enemy to be neutralized.
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It’s mission is to prevent crime and to restrain and arrest lawbreakers, and that’s exactly what people who wish to live in a civilized society expect them to do. And, if the citizenry has issues with how they perform their job, there are lawful procedures to address those issues.
Well, if that’s the case, then I guess we won’t have an illegal immigrant problem anymore with all those people afraid of our police./s
How do you know what was going on with him?
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It would be helpful if you would inform me which of my comments you are referring to.
They are law enforcement officers, not crime prevention officers. They have no legal obligation to prevent crimes; that has been well established and repeated many times here at FR.
The blood looks far too coagulated for having been thumped right then, I think they used fx coagulated special effects gel instead of the runnier stuff:
Not really... you can put this stuff right in your ear canal and walk around with it not showing- until you tip your head.
Not really... you can put this stuff right in your ear canal and walk around with it not showing- until you tip your head. If you’re wearing a mask there are even more options like prepacked prop blood where the packs break easily, some have a narrow end or spout to direct it more or less where it is wanted rather than an even splat..... https://www.ebay.com/i/322283827269?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-213727-13078-0&mkcid=2&itemid=322283827269&targetid=4580840327039639&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=&poi=&campaignid=301076556&mkgroupid=1235851265215130&rlsatarget=pla-4580840327039639&abcId=1129776&merchantid=51291&msclkid=bbb15a85e6051d3f0a93045eed6f4453
He was holding the helmet to draw the cops’ eyes towards it, and it was working, you could see the cop keeping a good eye on it..
I don’t buy the idea that ‘crooked cops represent order’. And a lot of crooked cops remain on the job merely because of police unions. Those unions work hard to protect their ‘paying customers’. (Workers - and Government! - represent their ‘customers’. They work to protect both no matter the unions’ ostensible pronouncements, or the behavior of either of their ‘protectees’.)
I have very mixed feelings about this - on the one hand, I can’t think of any profession in today’s litigious atmosphere that requires the kind of protection that something like a union may afford, than policing does.
On the other hand, I despise the entire notion of public-sector employee unions.
https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/what-public-employee-unions-are-doing-to-our-country/
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