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Minneapolis Disaster: Fentanyl, Methamphetamine & Excited Delirium
Law Officer ^ | June 3,2020 | Law Officer

Posted on 06/03/2020 11:34:27 PM PDT by Penelope Dreadful

The death of George Floyd after an interaction with the Minneapolis Police Department has rocked the world and while everyone reading this believes that an officer that put his knee in the back of Floyd’s neck for close to nine minutes was the cause of death, the facts and evidence are anything but that.

The Western Journal of Emergency Medicine says that “Excited delirium is characterized by agitation, aggression, acute distress and sudden death, often in the pre-hospital care setting. It is typically associated with the use of drugs Subjects typically die from a heart attack and the majority of the patients die before hospital arrival.”

And combined with methamphetamine, studies indicate that fentanyl has a higher chance of inducing fatal hyperthermia. And it just so happens that hyperthermia has a direct correlation with excited delirium.

Fentanyl is also unique among the opioids in its ability to cause muscle rigidity of the chest wall, diaphragm, and larynx. Known as “wooden chest syndrome,” it’s safe to say that the combination of this drug is a recipe for heart stoppage.

The American College of Emergency Physicians’ White Paper Report on Excited Delirium Syndrome recommends two specific responses by law enforcement if they observe signs of excited delirium.

Stating that “Deescalation does not have a high likelihood of changing outcomes significantly”

“The subjects require physical restraint (this is because if they continue to struggle it accelerates the death) combined with emergent sedation.”

“Once the decision to do this has been made, action needs to be swift and efficient, and performed with all responders present when feasible.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: autopsy; ed; exciteddelirium; fentanyl; floyd; georgefloyd; georgefloydbackstory; methamphetamine; minneapolis; minnesota; woodenchest
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To: Penelope Dreadful

The “epiphany” routine he pulled during the Phil Spector trial is also enlightening.


21 posted on 06/04/2020 2:20:29 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (So Long Obie)
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To: Pontiac
If they stop at the Apple Store please have them pick me up a 16” MacBook Pro.

Then watch what Apple does to it when it goes on line as it sends your exact location and your picture back to the mother ship.

At that point, your best bet is to use it as a brick to break into another store.

22 posted on 06/04/2020 2:26:46 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (In blue cities, you will be arrested for opening a business, but not for looting one.)
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To: Ken H

They were initially offered to the mayor, and he said he didn’t want to look at them.


23 posted on 06/04/2020 2:31:00 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (So Long Obie)
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To: nathanbedford

Well said!


24 posted on 06/04/2020 2:31:44 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (In blue cities, you will be arrested for opening a business, but not for looting one.)
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To: nathanbedford

Well said.


25 posted on 06/04/2020 2:33:26 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (So Long Obie)
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To: Penelope Dreadful

l8r


26 posted on 06/04/2020 2:34:34 AM PDT by preacher ( Journalism no longer reports news, they use news to shape our society.)
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To: ArmstedFragg

Great minds think alike!


27 posted on 06/04/2020 2:37:10 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (In blue cities, you will be arrested for opening a business, but not for looting one.)
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To: Penelope Dreadful
it makes sense to me...the death was instantaneous....remember how Floyd said his stomach hurt, his legs hurt, everything hurt?....

you have to wonder why all three cops were on top of Floyd...holding him down...I figured there had to be a reason....

holding him down on his stomach might have been the only choice ...and lying prone might have prevented aspiration....

its not a clear cut story....

but we had all these freepers ready to hang the cops....

28 posted on 06/04/2020 2:47:00 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Signalman
Can you imagine what will happen in this country if the cops get off?

With competent defense counsel, I wouldn't be so sure that this is a slam dunk for the prosecution.

29 posted on 06/04/2020 2:49:15 AM PDT by Salvey
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To: Penelope Dreadful

You can trot out any supporting BS that you can find but it doesn’t change the fact that Chauvin had his knee on Floyd’s neck for 7 minutes and that for the last 2 minutes Floyd was unconscious. Got that!
Now those facts are supported by video. The fact Floyd had a record as long as my arm does not obviate the the police have a duty of care to those in their custody.
Too many police forces tolerate thuggism in this day and age. The bullies are not screened out.
I detest the left, antifa, the rioting, and all the filthy propaganda that the left is generating. One fact is true - if you want to lose this country continue to condone brutish and unlawful behaviour by our criminal justice system. While General Flynn and George Floyd may not have a lot in common as far as their lifestyles are concerned, they are both victims of our criminal justice system.


30 posted on 06/04/2020 2:50:56 AM PDT by .44 Special (Tiamid Buacach!)
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To: Ken H

The body cams will be crucial for the trial. The DA has scene them and warns that there is more evidence coming.


31 posted on 06/04/2020 3:08:35 AM PDT by Oldexpat (Stand strong VA.)
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To: Signalman

Yes lock and load if the police get off and that will happen just in time for Nov election.

Upgrading charges to 2nd degree increase burden of proof making an acquittal or hung jury more likely.

Mayhem will result in a fubar election, theft and overthrow of America


32 posted on 06/04/2020 3:09:26 AM PDT by Jimmy The Snake (Remeber)
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To: funfan

https://www.lawofficer.com/michael-baden/


33 posted on 06/04/2020 3:12:37 AM PDT by Oneanddone
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To: .44 Special

And if that fact didn’t cause to his death it is meaningless got that.

If you want to lose this country continue to give criminals free rain and those that support them.

Continue to not hold people responsible for their own actions.

The facts are if MR. Floyd had not used those drugs, had not committed a crime, had not resisted the police.

None of this would have happened.

Mr. Floyd because of his actions should be held responsible for his own death.


34 posted on 06/04/2020 3:16:16 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: Ken H

Like with Micheal brown the truth weeks and months later will be on page 6 and no longer important because it is the truth and it is a non story that doesn’t fit their narrative


35 posted on 06/04/2020 3:18:20 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: Valpal1

Thank you for being the only other person, besides myself, for mentioning ‘positional restraint asphyxiation’.
This was being added to my department’s training curriculum back in 2010 to respond to a large number of deaths from handcuffed prone suspects.


36 posted on 06/04/2020 3:25:12 AM PDT by sgt_lau (Being tolerant to the most intolerant people on the planet is a losing proposition. Reject islam.)
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To: Signalman
Can you imagine what will happen in this country if the cops get off?

And as more and more information about this case gets out the more it looks like that's going to be the case IMO. Indeed lock and load.

37 posted on 06/04/2020 3:27:42 AM PDT by Ron H. (Gab.com is back up.)
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To: Penelope Dreadful
Maybe. But when you have Fentanyl, meth, cannabis and morphine in your system then causation becomes questionable. Floyd had already stiffened up and fell over before he was in that position.

I too agree and that will all come out at a/the trial. IMO the prosecution is going to have a mountain of evidence to get over.

38 posted on 06/04/2020 3:32:46 AM PDT by Ron H. (Gab.com is back up.)
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To: Penelope Dreadful
The autopsy showed that he had a bum ticker.Add meth to that and it's easy to imagine what can happen.Meth causes every cell in your body to do backflips.And that goes double for your heart.

As for the "independent" autopsy...if you're in the "rent an expert" business you know that Rule #1 is "always aim to please the ones paying your bill".To do otherwise is to set yourself up for having an office where the phone never seems to ring.

And as for experts...think back to OJ.That criminal evidence expert,Henry Lee,said that there's no way that OJ did it.He,too,understood exactly who he was working for.

39 posted on 06/04/2020 4:01:22 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Just Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election!)
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To: riverrunner

Agreed, well said.


40 posted on 06/04/2020 4:07:02 AM PDT by TheDon (MAGA!)
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