Posted on 05/29/2020 1:55:38 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
George Floyd died Monday from a combination of preexisting health conditions exacerbated by being held down by Minneapolis officers, not from strangulation or asphyxiation, based on the medical examiner’s initial report.
Preliminary findings from a Tuesday autopsy conducted by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner found “no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxiation or strangulation,” according to the criminal complaint filed Friday against former officer Derek Michael Chauvin.
“Mr. Floyd had underlying health conditions including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease,” said the complaint from the Hennepin County Attorney. “The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death.”
The Minneapolis police officer fired earlier this week was charged Friday with third-degree murder and manslaughter after kneeling on Mr. Floyd’s neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds. Video showed he was unresponsive for the last 2 minutes and 53 seconds.
“Police are trained that this type of restraint with a subject in a prone position is inherently dangerous,” the complaint said.
According to the filing, officers confronted Mr. Floyd after receiving a 911 call saying that he had paid for merchandise at Cup Foods with a phony $20 bill. They found him nearby in his vehicle with an adult male and female.
Mr. Floyd, who was six feet tall and weighed over 200 pounds, was handcuffed and led to the squad car, but resisted getting inside, saying he was claustrophobic.
While standing, he said repeatedly he couldn’t breathe. Mr. Floyd struggled as officers tried to force him into the car and fell to the ground. Two officers held him down while Officer Chauvin pressed his knee on the suspect’s neck.
Mr. Floyd said “I can’t breathe” multiple times, as well as
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Many of the knee jerkers here said he died because the cop choked him to death.
We know that is not true.
I’ll wait to see what the tox reports show.
I’m guessing he was overdosing.
Not if he died just as they laid hold of him. Now if they cuffed him and had him face down for several minutes while kneeling on his neck, then hell yes.
Any potential intoxicants? Shouldn’t a blood test be the first thing back?
He was already cuffed at the wrists and ankles. No need to put full force on his neck. He wasn’t resisting at that point. He was in seriously bad shape at that point and probably was having a heart attack when he felt chest tightness.
The cop used excessive force, period, no matter what he died from.
huh...almost always done within one day.....
Are people going to be given medical cards now that say “You can’t restrain me because I might die”?
If might keep them from getting killed.
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So would not breaking the law and not acting in some way that’s going to get you restrained.
Not necessarily true.
Not if he died just as they laid hold of him. Now if they cuffed him and had him face down for several minutes while kneeling on his neck, then hell yes.
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Okay. Well, then what if he was out of control and fighting the police, and their training TOLD them to cuff him and kneel on his neck? Still murder?
I did not know that was a police procedure. Thanks for explaining that and why it is done.
I am still troubled by the fact that they did it after suspecting a medical issue was in play, for eight minutes, during the last of which he was unresponsive. It gives the sense of callous disregard for the person.
There are some hard core folks on FR.
They see blacks being shot down in the streets and they justify it.
They see a black man constrained in a way that is inherently dangerous and inhuman, and they think the the black man was responsible.
No wonder they hate white people. I have to wonder where that absolute disregard for other people comes from.
It is a sad day for America. Republicans are the party of equality. And yet, the anti black mob is alive, well, and supported here.
[If you read the Statement of Probable Cause - here - it says that kneeling on his neck contributed to Floyd’s death. In other words, Floyd may have keeled over with a coronary tomorrow, but four days ago he would not have died if the officer had not knelt on his neck for 8 or 9 minutes. Third degree murder charges are completely warranted. ]
Fortunately, we have something called due process. The cops’ lawyers will, hopefully, get them off the hook and reinstated with full back pay and compensation for legal fees and years of official harassment, all to advance the careers of amoral pols. I don’t normally support public unions, but in the case of the police, I’ll have to make an exception. The nature of the scum they deal with on a day-to-day basis, as well as the elevated position of a great % of that scum thanks to our racial caste system, where blacks are like the samurai aristocracy in Japan, means that they need the resources of the union to defend themselves against false accusations supported by the weight of an entire city’s tax revenues.
Yep.
Some people will excuse anything done by a cop.
It says, "Mr.Floyd had underlying health conditions including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease. The combined effect of Mr. Floyd being restrained by the police, his underlying health conditions, and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death." The restraint contributed to it, and without it Floyd would not have died while the police officer was kneeling on his neck. It's his bad luck he chose to kneel on a walking heart-attack waiting to happen, but choose it he did and because of his actions Floyd is dead and the officer is under arrest.
But he wasn’t at no point in any video was he “out of control fighting the police.” At the time he was on the ground, he was already cuffed.
Thank you for some sanity among the masses that want to give these cops a free pass.
He was already cuffed at the wrists and ankles. No need to put full force on his neck. He wasn’t resisting at that point. He was in seriously bad shape at that point and probably was having a heart attack when he felt chest tightness.
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In retrospect, what you say is true. I don’t know what the cop knew or was thinking at that time, however. Perhaps he thought he was faking it, or suffering the effects of drugs or alcohol.
But the entire riot related scene has little to do with the unfortunate death of a man in medical distress and more to do with the up coming election cycle. And there are several posters who appear to have marching orders to inflame the audiences drawn to this tragedy. Reason and evidence are to be ignored for the emotional impact of a particular segment of the video.
In my best Foghorn leghorn voice, "I say there boy, whole lot of herdin' goin' on heyah."
He was never out of control. If he had been, he would have been tased.
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