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Obesity increases risk for coronavirus complications: report
NY Post ^ | March 26 2020 | Jackie Salo

Posted on 04/01/2020 9:53:49 PM PDT by rintintin

Coronavirus patients who are obese are reportedly at higher risk of becoming critically ill with the disease.

Dr. Stefan de Hert, a former president of the European Society of Anaesthesiology, determined that obesity was one of the more common risk factors among patients admitted to the intensive care units in Italy, Metro UK reported.

“The mean age of all COVID-19 patients is 70 years, and one of the major risk factors for admission to intensive care is obesity,” he told the outlet.

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1 posted on 04/01/2020 9:53:49 PM PDT by rintintin
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To: rintintin

Water is wet.

Being obese makes you at risk for a whole host of other health problems that will kill you before ANY virus or bacteria may kill you.

What a non-story story.


2 posted on 04/01/2020 9:58:34 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: rintintin

I might as well end it now and save the suffering :)


3 posted on 04/01/2020 9:59:40 PM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists dont point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: rintintin

Everywhere for Covid-19, the risk factor is age. In China, particularly for men, the risk factor is heavy smoking, because nearly all men there, particularly older men, smoke heavily.

In America, the big risk factor is obesity.


4 posted on 04/01/2020 10:04:31 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: rintintin
Probably around 50% of health problems can be traced back to people over-prepping their battery packs, however if this goes on long enough they will be the ones to inherit the Earth.

Radioactivity is used in food irradiation to kill viruses and just about everything else. Maybe a mask fitted with enough passageways coated in a radioactive element could passively purify the air of almost all viruses. It would be great to wear on airline flights.

5 posted on 04/01/2020 10:07:06 PM PDT by Reeses (A journey of a thousand miles begins with a government pat down.)
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To: rintintin

Laura Ingraham had a Doc on tonight who made a few points.

Serious cases (that end up intubated on a ventilator) are almost all over 70, very overweight (BMI>30), diabetic or pre-diabetic.

Also, he made the point, that if patients have received the Hyroxychloroquine (HCQ) and Azithromycin (Z Pack) treatment for five days, virtually none later need to be intubated.

Separately, I heard that this virus attacks blood cells through a certain mechanism, that is related to sugar somehow, so people with unhealthy blood sugar issues are particularly vulnerable.

Maybe a keto diet should be added to the home remedy arsenal, in case someone can’t get treatment in some extreme case.

But the Hyroxychloroquine (HCQ) and Azithromycin (Z Pack) seems to be essentially a reliable cure, as long as it is started soon enough (i.e. symptoms are not already very severe).

I saw another Doc saying that he saw patients blood oxygen levels (SpO2) start to noticeably improve in 6 to 8 hours of starting the HCQ/Z Pack treatment.


6 posted on 04/01/2020 10:07:06 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Secret Agent Man

It may not be shocking information, but it is still something to keep in mind. If one is overweight, like I am, (Yes, I admit it!) I need to be extra sure I have all my asthma treatments nearby, so something minor doesn’t wear down my immunity so easily, thus opening the door to a Coro-Virus.
I need to be sure to do my stretching and breathing exercises as I greet the sunlight in the morning.

I don’t necessarily worry about it. If it’s my time to go, then so be it, I’ve been ready for good while, but meanwhile, I’m taking basic precautions.


7 posted on 04/01/2020 10:08:00 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: BeauBo
I saw Laura's excellent show tonight... really interesting!

Here's a link to the article about Dr. Stephen Smith, and also you can click on the You Tube video below the text of the article to watch Laura's entire 4/1/20 show:

‘Hydroxychloroquine is a game changer and the beginning of the end of the coronavirus pandemic,’ Infectious Disease Specialist Dr. Stephen Smith says

8 posted on 04/01/2020 10:11:11 PM PDT by nutmeg (Mega prayers for Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Jane Long; SeekAndFind; mmichaels1970

ping to #6


9 posted on 04/01/2020 10:17:19 PM PDT by nutmeg (Mega prayers for Rush Limbaugh)
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To: dp0622
If I hide behind this shrubery, Coronavirus can't see me.


10 posted on 04/01/2020 10:17:34 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: dp0622

I’m the co-morbidity poster child here.....

fat
lazy
and maskless

Beam me up


11 posted on 04/01/2020 10:26:39 PM PDT by Bobalu (We are going to witness such a circus between now and Nov that we should have to buy tickets)
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To: nutmeg

The malaria drug is a game changer and likely is the miracle drug.


12 posted on 04/01/2020 10:29:13 PM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I have seen about dozen news stories where the person who died is described as having “no underlying conditions” when they are clearly obese if not morbidly obese (plus a dozen more mentioning diabetes). So many people are fat these days it’s become normalized. I know plenty who walk around 30-50lbs overweight and don’t think of themselves as obese because they’re comparing themselves to utter landwhales instead of fit people. You see this going on even in military/LE setting. It’s disgraceful. If story after story about fats dying of COVID doesn’t get people to wake up and change their lifestyle what will?


13 posted on 04/01/2020 10:30:11 PM PDT by Callahan
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To: Callahan
As something gets cheaper, people always use more of it. Never before has food been this cheap or plentiful. Our genetics haven't adjusted yet but nature is working on it faster than anything else.


14 posted on 04/01/2020 10:42:50 PM PDT by Reeses (A journey of a thousand miles begins with a government pat down.)
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To: BeauBo

So much has been based on the wrong, fake, insane information from China that we are only now learning the truth about this terrible plague that the communist Chinese government has unleashed on the world.

Now we know that yes, older and weaker people are more at risk. Of course. This is not new information, it’s the case for all disease.

But now we know that young healthy people can be struck down in their prime, but we don’t know why yet. We’ll figure that part out.

The real question now is what we do about the ChiComs. We have to call out their lies, for one. We have to make them an international pariah as well. But that’s not nearly enough.

I don’t know the next step, but it’s going to be full of sacrifice.


15 posted on 04/01/2020 10:50:30 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: rintintin

Pick an illness. Obesity makes is worse most of the time. Are they running out of real stories to write?


16 posted on 04/01/2020 11:01:32 PM PDT by madison10
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To: rintintin

‘Feed a cold, starve a fever’? Here’s what science says

https://www.statnews.com/2016/09/08/feed-cold-starve-fever-science/

Feed a cold, starve a fever” is an adage that has been around for centuries. Now a new study in mice finds that it might actually have some truth — but it depends what exactly is the cause of your fever.

Why it matters:
Loss of appetite is common with sickness and Ruslan Medzhitov, an immunologist at Yale University, and his colleagues wanted to know why. Is it just a consequence of illness, or does it have some protective benefit we don’t fully understand?

The nitty gritty:
Researchers infected mice with either a bacteria that causes food poisoning or a flu virus.

All the mice began to eat less after falling ill, but some were force-fed food or given pure glucose. After 10 days all the bacteria-infected mice who had continued being fed had died, while more than half that had avoided food lived. But it was the opposite in those infected with the flu: More than 75 percent lived if they had been force-fed, while only about 10 percent lived if they hadn’t. Food was protective against the virus, but detrimental to the bacterial infection.

“To our complete surprise we found that force feeding was protective” in viral infections, Medzhitov said.

Intrigued, the team conducted more experiments, and found that glucose, but not proteins or fats, was the dangerous component of foods during a bacterial infection. The study was published Thursday in the journal Cell.

But keep in mind:
The work was done in mice, not people. But a 2002 study in humans found similar results: eating stimulates the kind of immune response needed to combat viral infections, while fasting might stimulate the immune response that takes down unfriendly bacteria.

What they’re saying:
“What it shows is that if we understand the infection, there might be simple ways that we can improve outcome,” said David Schneider, an immunomicrobiologist at Stanford University who wasn’t involved in the work.

But he noted more needs to be done before we know how far to generalize these findings, which used only one strain of mice and might not apply to every infection.

“We don’t want to say, ‘Ok, bacteria means we don’t feed patients.’ It’s not time for that yet,” he said. “There are always going to be exceptions.”

You’ll want to know:
The differences in nutrition seemed to influence survival not through a direct impact on the pathogen, but rather by changing the ability of the mice’s own tissue to withstand the metabolic stress that came with illnesses, said Janelle Ayres, an immunomicrobiologist at the Salk Institute in La Jolla, Calif., who was not involved in the study.

“Conventional wisdom among most scientists and the general public is you have an infection, you have to take an antibiotic or you have to take an antiviral and you just have to kill it,” she said. “This nicely demonstrates that we need to be able to deal with metabolic stresses, or we can compromise our ability to defend against infection.”

The bottom line:
Fevers can be caused by both bacteria and viruses — so the adage “Feed a cold, starve a fever” is an oversimplification. But knowing whether to feed patients based on the infection they have could be useful not just for chicken soup remedies but also for more serious infections like sepsis, which can be caused by both types of pathogens.


17 posted on 04/01/2020 11:08:43 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

Intrigued, the team conducted more experiments, and found that glucose, but not proteins or fats, was the dangerous component of foods during a bacterial infection.


18 posted on 04/01/2020 11:10:58 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: rintintin

If it comes out that China released this from their bio-labs, vs the bat soup. All hell will break loose.
Also, how would the world punish China for what they did?
Would China be better off, just saying they were sorry for what happened, or just keep saying it was from the bat soup? Inquiring minds just want to know!!!!


19 posted on 04/01/2020 11:43:25 PM PDT by ktw (72 ID, Finally Retired after 25 years!)
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To: ktw

Those wer markets are bio labs all by themselves. Fresh bat anyone? Or are you in the mood for skinned dog?


20 posted on 04/01/2020 11:45:30 PM PDT by rintintin (qu)
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