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1 posted on 04/01/2020 9:53:49 PM PDT by rintintin
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To: rintintin

Water is wet.

Being obese makes you at risk for a whole host of other health problems that will kill you before ANY virus or bacteria may kill you.

What a non-story story.


2 posted on 04/01/2020 9:58:34 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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I might as well end it now and save the suffering :)


3 posted on 04/01/2020 9:59:40 PM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists dont point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: rintintin

Everywhere for Covid-19, the risk factor is age. In China, particularly for men, the risk factor is heavy smoking, because nearly all men there, particularly older men, smoke heavily.

In America, the big risk factor is obesity.


4 posted on 04/01/2020 10:04:31 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: rintintin
Probably around 50% of health problems can be traced back to people over-prepping their battery packs, however if this goes on long enough they will be the ones to inherit the Earth.

Radioactivity is used in food irradiation to kill viruses and just about everything else. Maybe a mask fitted with enough passageways coated in a radioactive element could passively purify the air of almost all viruses. It would be great to wear on airline flights.

5 posted on 04/01/2020 10:07:06 PM PDT by Reeses (A journey of a thousand miles begins with a government pat down.)
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Laura Ingraham had a Doc on tonight who made a few points.

Serious cases (that end up intubated on a ventilator) are almost all over 70, very overweight (BMI>30), diabetic or pre-diabetic.

Also, he made the point, that if patients have received the Hyroxychloroquine (HCQ) and Azithromycin (Z Pack) treatment for five days, virtually none later need to be intubated.

Separately, I heard that this virus attacks blood cells through a certain mechanism, that is related to sugar somehow, so people with unhealthy blood sugar issues are particularly vulnerable.

Maybe a keto diet should be added to the home remedy arsenal, in case someone can’t get treatment in some extreme case.

But the Hyroxychloroquine (HCQ) and Azithromycin (Z Pack) seems to be essentially a reliable cure, as long as it is started soon enough (i.e. symptoms are not already very severe).

I saw another Doc saying that he saw patients blood oxygen levels (SpO2) start to noticeably improve in 6 to 8 hours of starting the HCQ/Z Pack treatment.


6 posted on 04/01/2020 10:07:06 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: rintintin

Pick an illness. Obesity makes is worse most of the time. Are they running out of real stories to write?


16 posted on 04/01/2020 11:01:32 PM PDT by madison10
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‘Feed a cold, starve a fever’? Here’s what science says

https://www.statnews.com/2016/09/08/feed-cold-starve-fever-science/

Feed a cold, starve a fever” is an adage that has been around for centuries. Now a new study in mice finds that it might actually have some truth — but it depends what exactly is the cause of your fever.

Why it matters:
Loss of appetite is common with sickness and Ruslan Medzhitov, an immunologist at Yale University, and his colleagues wanted to know why. Is it just a consequence of illness, or does it have some protective benefit we don’t fully understand?

The nitty gritty:
Researchers infected mice with either a bacteria that causes food poisoning or a flu virus.

All the mice began to eat less after falling ill, but some were force-fed food or given pure glucose. After 10 days all the bacteria-infected mice who had continued being fed had died, while more than half that had avoided food lived. But it was the opposite in those infected with the flu: More than 75 percent lived if they had been force-fed, while only about 10 percent lived if they hadn’t. Food was protective against the virus, but detrimental to the bacterial infection.

“To our complete surprise we found that force feeding was protective” in viral infections, Medzhitov said.

Intrigued, the team conducted more experiments, and found that glucose, but not proteins or fats, was the dangerous component of foods during a bacterial infection. The study was published Thursday in the journal Cell.

But keep in mind:
The work was done in mice, not people. But a 2002 study in humans found similar results: eating stimulates the kind of immune response needed to combat viral infections, while fasting might stimulate the immune response that takes down unfriendly bacteria.

What they’re saying:
“What it shows is that if we understand the infection, there might be simple ways that we can improve outcome,” said David Schneider, an immunomicrobiologist at Stanford University who wasn’t involved in the work.

But he noted more needs to be done before we know how far to generalize these findings, which used only one strain of mice and might not apply to every infection.

“We don’t want to say, ‘Ok, bacteria means we don’t feed patients.’ It’s not time for that yet,” he said. “There are always going to be exceptions.”

You’ll want to know:
The differences in nutrition seemed to influence survival not through a direct impact on the pathogen, but rather by changing the ability of the mice’s own tissue to withstand the metabolic stress that came with illnesses, said Janelle Ayres, an immunomicrobiologist at the Salk Institute in La Jolla, Calif., who was not involved in the study.

“Conventional wisdom among most scientists and the general public is you have an infection, you have to take an antibiotic or you have to take an antiviral and you just have to kill it,” she said. “This nicely demonstrates that we need to be able to deal with metabolic stresses, or we can compromise our ability to defend against infection.”

The bottom line:
Fevers can be caused by both bacteria and viruses — so the adage “Feed a cold, starve a fever” is an oversimplification. But knowing whether to feed patients based on the infection they have could be useful not just for chicken soup remedies but also for more serious infections like sepsis, which can be caused by both types of pathogens.


17 posted on 04/01/2020 11:08:43 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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If it comes out that China released this from their bio-labs, vs the bat soup. All hell will break loose.
Also, how would the world punish China for what they did?
Would China be better off, just saying they were sorry for what happened, or just keep saying it was from the bat soup? Inquiring minds just want to know!!!!


19 posted on 04/01/2020 11:43:25 PM PDT by ktw (72 ID, Finally Retired after 25 years!)
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Fat chance of THAT happening.


22 posted on 04/02/2020 1:49:03 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Under construction)
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Hence the term “morbid obesity”.


23 posted on 04/02/2020 1:53:39 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ("We're not going to make America great again. It was never that great." Andrew Cuomo)
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What about AIDS? Will the media report on that rusk factor?


24 posted on 04/02/2020 4:19:02 AM PDT by MulberryDraw (You can vote your way into Communism, but you have to shoot your way out.)
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