Posted on 03/29/2020 7:46:10 AM PDT by janetjanet998
You posted a US stat and then a bunch of other numbers that are not US stats.
“It is reasonable to assume that everyone was exposed. How many of those exposed died? 12. That’s a pretty low mortality rate.”
It is NOT reasonable to assume everyone was exposed. The passengers were isolated to their cabins, used masks when outside, etc. They were on multiple, separate ventilation systems. It’s not like they were all playing bingo in the Grand Ballroom and crowding the buffet table.
Congratulations, though. It usually takes a while for FluBros to move the goal posts to “mortality rate”. But it is a pointless argument as the whole number of people on the entire ship, passengers and crew, was about 5 times the number that got CCP-19. That’s pretty close to the same ratio as get the flu each year - 1 in 5. In the case of the flu, it is due to vaccinations and existing herd immunity, in the case of CCP-19 on the DP it was due to mitigation efforts. So with equal penetrance of the population - for what ever reasons - CCP-19 is still about 20 times as lethal.
“I actually think that Italy could easily have 1 million untested infected people, but, the lower CFR that results in doesn’t help overwhelmed hospitals or their patients.”
I don’t, but for the sake of argument, the other condition is they would all have to survive. Either way, TBD.
“My country is Kentucky.”
While technically correct, that is not how people generally use the term. You’re going to give yourself away doing that.
“My country is Kentucky.”
While technically correct, that is not how people generally use the term. You’re going to give yourself away doing that.
I moved from Seattle to KY about 9 years ago. I literally see them as two separate countries in the same way I see Germany and spain as different countries. Except they share a language.
Everything suddenly makes sense when I see it that way. It’s why I see NY virus numbers the same way I see italian or french numbers. They are not my country’s numbers. my country is a different culture. We have different weaknesses and strengths.
So what you are saying is you are a separatist posting disinformation to sow discord.
So what you are saying is you are a separatist posting disinformation to sow discord.
i.e. no, that is not what I’m saying.
On the post to which I was referring, the top number is 3M+ infectious disease deaths, then 100k+ flu deaths. Are you claiming that the US had half the flu deaths from the entire world? Or 1/6 if you take the bottom CDC estimate?
You’re just here to troll. You’re not interested in sharing anything useful or learning. Stop wasting people’s time and go back to the FluBro thread. Or is it too lonely over there?
Sir, I owe you an apology. The critical first line of the information was left out when I C&P’d. Here is the original that I was trying to C&P It was all juxtaposed against the 32k worldwide deaths. The info is also over a day old now:
How deadly is the Wuhan virus? Well, worldwide the stats look like this:
32,180 Deaths this year
But it’s got some stiff competition for killing people. Here are some serious contenders as of today:
3,144,547 Communicable disease deaths this year
117,758 Seasonal flu deaths this year
1,841,195 Deaths of children under 5 this year
74,870 Deaths of mothers during birth this year
407,202 Deaths caused by HIV/AIDS this year
1,989,408 Deaths caused by cancer this year
237,598 Deaths caused by malaria this year
1,210,911 Deaths caused by smoking this year
605,837 Deaths caused by alcohol this year
259,754 Suicides this year
326,984 Road traffic accident fatalities this year
This virus is not even in the top ten. And we’re locked down over it? I smell something funny.
A lot more people caught the flu, so far, than have had CCP-19. We just want to keep it that way, for reasons that have been thoroughly discussed.
If the HCS crashes, the economy crashes. If the economy crashes, the HCS crashes.
This halfway shutdown is painful for everybody, but it has the best chance of saving both the HCS and the economy. We quite literally are on a war footing, and major battles are on our home soil for the first time in most of our lifetimes.
BTW, the Brits, among others, are screaming at the Chinese for their lies about how bad this virus is. We all knew they lied, now it’s coming out into the public forum.
The shutdown is not at all painful for me. I’m loving it. But in the same way a mortician may be loving the extra business and now he can buy that big boat.
I am now wroking from home and save a three hour commute and the gas. I’m getting a ton of stuff done I’ve been forced to put of for a while. My wife feeds me like a king and we love all the time we have together. We have no reason to leave our little shangri la here except to do a grocery run once a month.
In fact, I was thinking of retiring, and still might, but with all the commute time being saved, it’s a low priority.
My concern is that we are looking at a serious great depression, and the virus has still not killed all that many people, coupled with the results we are seeing from multiple treatments. Sure, NY is having a hard time of it. So’s Italy. But I live in Kentucky. 8 deaths.
8.
“But I live in Kentucky. 8 deaths.”
You realize that Kentucky isn’t that far from NYC, right? No fences to stop the infected people that have already fled NYC for “safe” places. And that FluBro-in-Chief de Blasio set up NYC as a pressure cooker bomb. The whole Eastern Seaboard is now polluted, all the containment efforts wasted because of his narcissism. It wasn’t just him, but he’s largely responsible.
Your own lack of concern for all the people out there that don’t have a Shangri-La, your admission that you’re “loving it”, those are problems. Dismissing this as nothing because you have not (yet) faced hardship is the attitude that will guarantee hardship. Letting this thing run amok and not taking it seriously guarantees that depression you say you are concerned about. I wonder how accessible the things you need will be on your next monthly grocery run. Maybe you ought to take care of that now.
This is an interesting article from, of all places, CNN. It describes some behind-the-scenes actions and discussions by the president and his teams. Obviously, from the start, there’s been strongly competing and compelling interests regarding what’s best for our nation.
Thanks! By the way there are two Thread 31s due to a glitch or something, but I will copy this to the active one http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3829536/posts
Ahhhh..thanks:)
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