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Coronavirus: ISS, In Italy There Are Only Two Deaths Ascertained So Far Due To Covid-19
Agenzia Nove ^ | 03/13/20

Posted on 03/18/2020 6:23:29 AM PDT by Enlightened1

Rome, 13 Mar 19:12 - (Agenzia Nova) - There may be only two people who died from coronavirus in Italy, who did not present other pathologies. This is what emerges from the medical records examined so far by the Higher Institute of Health, according to what was reported by the President of the Institute, Silvio Brusaferro, during the press conference held today at the Civil Protection in Rome. "Positive deceased patients have an average of over 80 years - 80.3 to be exact - and are essentially predominantly male," said Brusaferro. "Women are 25.8 percent. The average age of the deceased is significantly higher than the other positive ones. The age groups over 70, with a peak between 80 and 89 years. The majority of these people are carriers of chronic diseases. Only two people were not presently carriers of diseases ", but even in these two cases, the examination of the files is not concluded and therefore, causes of death different from Covid-19 could emerge. The president of the ISS has specified that "little more than a hundred medical records" have so far come from hospitals throughout Italy.

These are the first minimum detailed data provided so far by the Civil Protection on the causes of death of coronavirus patients. At present, in fact, the authorities are unable to distinguish those who died from the virus, from those who, on the other hand, are communicated daily to the public, but who were mostly carriers of other serious diseases and who, therefore, would not have died from Covid-19. In response to a question from "Agenzia Nova", in fact, Brusaferro was unable to indicate the exact number of coronavirus deaths. However, the professor clarified that, according to the data analyzed, the great majority of the victims "had pathologies

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KEYWORDS: chinavirus; coronavirus; covid19; italy; twodeaths
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In medicine, comorbidity is the presence of one or more additional conditions co-occurring with a primary condition.

Example: Someone with stage 3 or 4 cancer who then also gets the coronavirus COVID-19.

The official death toll from coronavirus in Italy is: 2,503

The Italian Higher Institute of Health shows that the ACTUAL death toll in Italy from COVID-19 if you remove comorbidity is: 2 people.

The link to the Italian government site is in the article.

It seems the government and especially the media do not want people to know this fact. Hmm, why is that?
1 posted on 03/18/2020 6:23:29 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1

Inquiring minds want to know.


2 posted on 03/18/2020 6:25:25 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: yobid

BFL


3 posted on 03/18/2020 6:26:02 AM PDT by yobid (Tagline disabled due to apathy.)
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To: Enlightened1

I wonder how many Americans have comorbidity.

I have comorbidity x3, but that’s okay you can just toss me in the basket of We Don’t Care About You, Brah.


4 posted on 03/18/2020 6:28:19 AM PDT by chris37 (Despite my growing “Coronaphobia”, I still feel at least mostly sane half of the time.)
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To: Enlightened1
There was a headline posted here the other day about a 21 year-old Spaniard who died from the coronavirus. It wasn’t until the second or third paragraph that they mentioned his leukemia.

I made the point that people who die in plane crashes will he documented as COVID-19 fatalities if they test positive for the virus in their autopsies.

5 posted on 03/18/2020 6:29:11 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Oh, but it's hard to live by the rules; I never could and still never do.")
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To: chris37

The point about “comorbidity” is that the most effective measures in a viral outbreak would involve protecting the vulnerable, not isolating 100% of the population.


6 posted on 03/18/2020 6:31:19 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Oh, but it's hard to live by the rules; I never could and still never do.")
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To: chris37

I care about you. Maybe more than you do if you’re not taking precautions to avoid infection. Just don’t ask me to lose my house because I can’t work due to the economy being shot down over a rather mundane virus.


7 posted on 03/18/2020 6:32:17 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Alberta's Child

Good post!


8 posted on 03/18/2020 6:33:45 AM PDT by griswold3 (Democratic Socialism is Slavery by Mob Rule)
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To: Enlightened1

This sounds like the HIV hokey pokey. If a straight dies of pneumonia It is recorded as such. If a gay dies of pneumonia they are tested for HIV and if the test is positive the death is noted as AIDS, and if the test is negative then the death is recorded as pneumonia. Straights are not tested for HIV. Thus HIV became the banner under which numerous diseases, viruses, and bacterias, and infections were gathered to create a crisis that earned gays political power.

If I die of WuFlu when I am 90 I will consider it a huge victory!


9 posted on 03/18/2020 6:34:46 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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Am I correct in assuming they consider being over 60 to be comorbidity regardless of how healthy one is?


10 posted on 03/18/2020 6:35:42 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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Intriguing, except the presence of comorbidity doesn’t mean death wasn’t primarily caused by the virus or that those people shouldn’t be included in the death toll. This just reinforces what we already knew.


11 posted on 03/18/2020 6:36:13 AM PDT by The Pack Knight
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To: FreedomNotSafety

Haha and Bingo!


12 posted on 03/18/2020 6:37:08 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Alberta's Child

“I made the point that people who die in plane crashes will he documented as COVID-19 fatalities if they test positive for the virus in their autopsies.”

It’s only funny because it isn’t far from being true.


13 posted on 03/18/2020 6:38:59 AM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: chris37

Your best bet is for as many people to get WuFlu as quickly as possible while isolating yourself. Once the US has gained herd immunity (north of 60%) you will be much safer.


14 posted on 03/18/2020 6:39:31 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Alberta's Child

“I made the point that people who die in plane crashes will he documented as COVID-19 fatalities if they test positive for the virus in their autopsies.”

It’s only funny because it isn’t far from being true.


15 posted on 03/18/2020 6:40:28 AM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: FreedomNotSafety

I don’t think you’re thinking of it in the proper order. Most of the things you’re describing are complications of a weakened immune system caused by AIDS.

The AIDS doesn’t just happen to be present at the time they died of pneumonia or something similar.

Also, what I’ve noticed, is that when someone dies of complications from AIDS, the death cause is often listed as the complication without the mention of AIDS which in reality is the cause.


16 posted on 03/18/2020 6:41:33 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: Enlightened1
Italians over 80...hmm...


17 posted on 03/18/2020 6:41:58 AM PDT by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and so few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: chris37

Exactly. Let’s not be like Democrats and dispose of the elderly and infirm. People matter.


18 posted on 03/18/2020 6:43:23 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

People comparing this to flu are wrong. Lethality vs Contagious makes Cholera a more appropriate comparison. Feel free to start over from there.

“This illness is no worse than Cholera, what’s all the fuss!”


19 posted on 03/18/2020 6:43:34 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: FreedomNotSafety

Well it’s turning out to be fairly easy to isolate myself, since my business has gone in the crapper. It has literally stopped dead in its tracks.


20 posted on 03/18/2020 6:44:17 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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