Posted on 03/15/2020 6:11:15 PM PDT by Randall_S
Who assumed THAT?
Someone who lives in NYC and has never been west of the Hudson?
Big country. Very big country. Really very big country. With lots of people.
Does this person think that we stockpile 400 million tests for every virus that may pop up?
There are over 300 deadly viruses out there that we know about and something that is not deadly (coronavirus) can morph into something that IS deadly like the Wuhan-400.
That would be 120 Billion test kits they would need to have in stock. And test kits generally have a short shelf life. Where would they keep them? How would they dispose of the expired ones. Who would....?
Oh never mind.
Just take it as read that no one with more then two brain cells had the stupid delusion that the government could test all of us in event of a pandemic.
The government didn’t take over businesses during WWII.
OK, it’s true - most thinking, logical, and highly alert people did not assume this.
But your average person made this assumption. And many assumed that within 1-2 months our government could gear up properly.
This has proven not exactly true. It has frustrated Fauci and the other professionals. So let’s not pretend it isn’t a legitimate failing.
Verndariinc
Trump Signs Executive Order To Improve Flu Vaccines
President Donald Trump yesterday issued an executive order directing the US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to overhaul seasonal flu vaccine production and urge more Americans to be vaccinated.
The executive order, titled “Modernizing Influenza Vaccines in the United States to Promote National Security and Public Health,” promotes new vaccine manufacturing technologies to support more robust vaccines and advances the development of vaccines that provide longer lasting coverage against a broad range of flu viruses.
Weaknesses in current production methods
In the executive order, President Trump emphasized that each year, flu vaccines prevent millions of illnesses and thousands of deaths. It also acknowledged that a deadly flu pandemic could inflict trillions of dollars of damage on the economy.
“Unfortunately, many of the vaccines we use today are produced overseas, using time-consuming, egg-based technology, which limits their effectiveness and makes production too slow to effectively combat a potential deadly influenza pandemic,” the White House said in a statement.
In a related fact sheet, Trump said, “We want a safe and healthy future for every American family.”
Improving flu vaccines and developing universal formulations was part of proposed Senate bill last year that would have invested $1 billion in research over the next 5 years.
Speeding up production, advancing better vaccines
The goals of overhauling flu vaccine production will reduce reliance on time-consuming egg-based vaccine production. Also, the White House said improved production speed could help experts better match vaccines to the most current circulating strains.
For example, earlier this year, World Health Organization (WHO) vaccine advisors delayed their recommendation for the H3N2 vaccine strain by a month, due to rising numbers of genetically and antigenically diverse viruses.
In doing so, it warned that the move could delay flu vaccine production by 2 to 4 weeks.
A more closely matched vaccine is an important part of making the vaccines more effective. Flu vaccines are known to provide moderate protection, at about 54%, though effectiveness varies by year, with performance especially uneven against H3N2 viruses.
Also, the Trump Administration said it will advance the development of new more effective vaccines.
In 2012, a group led by the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP), which publishes CIDRAP News, led a group that published an in-depth analysis of problems with current flu vaccines and steps needed to develop a game-changing flu vaccine with the potential to blunt the impact of a future pandemic.
The White House said President Trump is establishing a task force to identify priorities and monitor progress.
HHS to take lead
In a separate statement yesterday, HHS Secretary Alex Azar said that under the order, HHS will lead the coordination of efforts to modernize flu vaccine production.
“President Trump’s executive order to modernize influenza vaccine manufacturing reflects his commitment both to America’s national security and to America’s health,” he said.
Tom Inglesby, MD, director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, on Twitter today said the executive order was good and strong, requiring a new plan for faster manufacturing, improving public understanding about flu and promoting better coverage, government study of vaccine effectiveness and costs, and a lot more.
“The government didn’t take over businesses during WWII.”
Technically not...but how many cars did we produce between 1942 and 1944? 139. It was clear who was running businesses at that time, and it wasn’t private companies.
right. Very few people are even now thinking in terms of ‘stock up to not leave house for x time.’ much more of the attitude is hurricane prep - wait it out a week, have water, + a few gallons of bleach and lysol.
the ideal is complete independence aside from necessary utilities (as applicable) for many months.
The feds did regulate the production of autos, but they did not run the companies. War production was contracted and industry ran their businesses to meet the needs of the war effort.
Exactly. And multiply that across every company conceivably involved with ‘the war effort.’ I.e., every company imaginable..
For later
Close enough...and the feds won’t be taking over businesses here, but as in WW2, they will in all but name.
They did NOT in all but name no matter how many times you post it!
“They did NOT in all but name no matter how many times you post it!”
How many cars did they build during the war? They did what they were told, as they effectively had a gun pointed at them. That’s history, and if you want to portray it as totally voluntary by the execs, so be it.
. . . like, by 0bama?
I wrote that auto production was halted by order of the feds. Just like the production of bump stocks has been banned by executive order. That doesn’t mean Trump runs those companies that were making them.
Did you know that Studebaker was developing new auto designs during WWII? They were able to do because they contracted design out to Raymond Lowey & Associates, sidestepping government regulation. They had freedom to do so. They were NOT taken over by the feds.
“I wrote that auto production was halted by order of the feds”
Where did you write that?
“But too many do, even among conservatives. It is just that our laws are “better”.”
Our side established the TSA, and very few here genuinely hate it.
Sorry but I or anyone I have spoken to never made the assumption the government would test everybody. The thought is ludicrous.
Post 27:
“ The feds did regulate the production of autos,”
Now, for more facts to educate you:
“ On January 1, 1942, all sales of cars, as well as the delivery of cars to customers who had previously contracted for them, were frozen by the government’s Office of Production Management. As a temporary measure, local rationing boards could issue permits allowing persons who had contracted for cars before January 1st to secure delivery.
Representatives from the auto industry formed the Automotive Council for War Production in April 1942, to facilitate the sharing of resources, expertise, and manpower in defense production contracting.“
https://teachinghistory.org/history-content/ask-a-historian/24088
Edsel Ford remained the head of Ford. GM’s William S. Knudsen served as head of U.S. wartime production for President Franklin Roosevelt. Roosevelt didn’t serve on the board of GM.
We need to do something similar with ventilators, and then store the excess ventilators in a warehouse, ready for the next pandemic, because this is going to happen again.
In Italy, for example, you are not allowed to travel outside your zone unless you have written form permission.
I've been following this with a couple of friends who were going to do a wine tour of Tuscany this summer. The folks in Italy they're corresponding with say it's really not too bad if your zone is relatively free of contagion, it's hell if it's otherwise. "It'll probably be OK by then," one of them offered optimistically. I jokingly suggested they opt for a cruise ship instead and they almost slugged me.
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