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"This Is The Most Frightening Disease I've Ever Encountered In My Career" Says Architect Of National Pandemic Strategy
conservative angle ^ | 3-8-2020

Posted on 03/08/2020 4:33:27 PM PDT by blam

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To: Vaduz

Check to see if a deposit of a large amount of cash was made to his account prior to his frenzied comments


161 posted on 03/09/2020 3:05:57 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (nicdip.com)
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To: dp0622

Yep - some folks aren’t truly happy unless they have something to worry about - they ignore stories like the guy Fox interviewed yesterday - he and his wife looked to be in their late 40s to early 50s and his wife was diagnosed first...he was initially tested as negative and the testing on him was because he was a kidney transplant recipient and therefore at higher risk if sick. His wife had a fever for 4-5 hours and is now asymptomatic and he was later diagnosed positive (retested after wife showed positive) and has had zero symptoms.
It’s likely the majority of cases will be mild enough to be asymptomatic or low symptoms - makes it harder to contain but normal cold/Flu precautions are the best bet - if folks can stop panicking long enough to actually practice them.

The constant hammering (yammering) is one of the reasons that Rahm’s old comment about never letting a crisis go to waste has any value as a strategy.

Many on FR are carrying the Dem’s water for them as The Great Dem Hope Virus goes through its progression.

Stay well, my FRiend.


162 posted on 03/09/2020 5:11:03 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: blam

163 posted on 03/09/2020 5:24:03 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: F450-V10

“Did you ever read the story by the guy who had an anal fissure named Bob? I laughed nonstop. I had one once. Mild but awful.”

Never read Bob’s story but I know Bonemaker’s story!! 6 months of horror finally ended by botox injection (at least not a lateral sphincterectomy).


164 posted on 03/09/2020 5:32:33 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: GingisK

I have read extensively about the 1918 flu. Years ago now but it was a great entry for me into the subject of virology. Even spent a couple of years reading microfilmed newspapers from the time.

Anyway I think I understand what he is saying.
The basic principle is that the easier it is to get, the less lethal it is. The more lethal it is the harder to spread, cause it kills the host.

The virology is the clue to the epidemiology. The author has seen the characteristics of the germ and has concluded reasonably. This one is as infectious as the common cold or flu. Yes it is, just like those four coronaviruses. It is deadlier than the flu. Yes because it has a unique pathway into the cell.

How deadly!?!? We’ll see I guess.
The NEJM says a CFR of under 1%. Their data matches the peculiar structure of the germ. That is worse than the seasonal flu, not as bad as the Spanish flu.

Huge difference is that Spanish Flu killed the young in large numbers. That is not happening now for a reason. No outbreaks in schools even in Wuhan! Please correct me if anyone has new info. Kids are testing positive but are asymptomatic.

Gotta Go!


165 posted on 03/09/2020 6:43:33 AM PDT by BDParrish ( Please correct me! I never learned anything from anybody who already agreed with me.)
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To: dfwgator

Yes, but we are taking measures that were not taken in 1918; and, we have instant world-wide communications. Now, if we just had some leadership at all levels.


166 posted on 03/09/2020 7:27:06 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat; V K Lee; HarleyLady27; Liz
I'm with you, Trump Girl.  Perspective from the CDC's website on how the influenza risk is highest among the elderly: Here's are CDC's instructions on protecting we "older folk" from Covad-19.
167 posted on 03/09/2020 7:31:34 AM PDT by poconopundit (Joe Biden has long been the Senate's court jester. He's 24/7 malarkey and more corrupt than Hunter.)
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To: blam

Maybe in his life span. BUBONIC OR BLACK PLAGUE 40-60 MILLION. Only cleanilines and quarantine helped kill it off, it is not completely dead, just isolated.

In his lifetime common FLU. 4TH YR IN A ROW CDC SCREWS UP VACCINE. Less people including medical know the signs of dehydration which kills young and old, sick faster.


168 posted on 03/09/2020 8:23:12 AM PDT by GailA (Intractable Pain, a Subset of Chronic pain Last a Life TIME at Level 10.)
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To: TigerClaws
One in ten requiring intensive care in Italy.

One in ten of the reported cases that tested positive. Most people won't even bother going to the doctor for this.
169 posted on 03/09/2020 8:26:24 AM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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To: sam_whiskey
Some people on-line appear to be agitated that everyone isn’t as concerned about this as they are.

Yup. This is the first time I've seen the "We are all going to die" contingent angry that not everyone believes them.
170 posted on 03/09/2020 8:28:26 AM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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To: Antoninus

They don’t bother going to the doctor but go about their life spreading it to those more vulnerable...

https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-st-louis-county-villa-duchesne-amtrak/63-a93ed63a-ba36-4686-b0fe-5fd6c4d29b5a


171 posted on 03/09/2020 8:31:59 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws
They don’t bother going to the doctor but go about their life spreading it to those more vulnerable...

That's the case with every pathogen, genius.
172 posted on 03/09/2020 8:35:10 AM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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To: TigerClaws

So 90% of those infected are treated and released like the flu....

And thats just the cases that are to a level they require health care...

More we learn about this virus, the more we are finding most cases are mild....


173 posted on 03/09/2020 8:37:03 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: blam

More like the Architect Of National Panic Strategy.


174 posted on 03/09/2020 8:40:17 AM PDT by Leep (Everyday is Trump Day!)
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To: HamiltonJay; All

Let’s go with your theory. Most are mild.

I agree with that. Problem is that means those people go out and spread it.

My theory is that Northern Italy is similar to Europe is similar to the U.S. Therefore, let’s look at their experience to judge what would happen here and very possibly will be happening here.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-italy-doctors-intensive-care-deaths-a9384356.html

Are these doctors all lying or exaggerating things? Is that your position? Do you feel that’s a logical position?

The power of denial is very strong. At some point, let’s look at facts and experience and form reasonable positions for discussions.


175 posted on 03/09/2020 8:59:45 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

I am not denying anything, I am pointing out factual reality... the spread and death rate of the disease is slowing...that’s a fact, it went from doubling every 2 days worldwide to doubling every 3 days worldwide... that’s a significant slowdown.

Secondly with any disease there are hot spots, that doesn’t mean the hot spot is a representative sample for the whole.

To date there have been less than 4,000 deaths worldwide credited to this disease, and 1, a whole 1 death of a child credited to it. To put it in perspective there have been over 20,000 deaths in the US alone from the Flu this season and I believe 136 of them were children.

This “its the end of days” is nonsense.... Its fear mongering and its silly.

In the US, there have been 22 total deaths, and 19 of them were in 1 state, and nursing home patients... This is not and “END TIMES” scenario... its STUPID and SILLY to do that.

Infection rates are SLOWING world wide, not increasing.. if it is as bad as the fear mongers wanted you to believe this would not be the case. THe mortality rate of this thing isn’t ANYWHERE near the fear mongering that is going on... Folks need to stop.... they need to stop and calm down.

If infection rates were so horrible (let alone death rates) there would not be anyone on these cuise ships without having the virus, yet even in situations where they know the virus is on the ship, the actual confirmed cases are low, and thats in an close inescapable environment... If this was an end days type of disease, these cruise ships would be nothing but floating morgues....

Stop, just stop.


176 posted on 03/09/2020 9:41:43 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Ann Archy
I would think EBOLA is FAR WORSE......but that’s just me.

Ebola symptoms are far worse. But Ebola doesn't spread as easy, and carriers aren't contagious until they start getting those terrible symptoms, so containment is relatively easy (for a 1st/2nd-world country).

But this guy, while the symptoms aren't as bad in most cases, spreads much easier, and also people with no symptoms are contagious. So it's near impossible to contain. 5% dead out of everybody is a LOT more people than 90% dead out of a couple thousand.
177 posted on 03/09/2020 11:02:54 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: ronnie raygun

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178 posted on 03/11/2020 8:58:46 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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