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New England Journal of Medicine: Coronavirus Could Be No Worse than Flu
Breitbart ^ | February 28, 2020 | JOEL B. POLLAK

Posted on 02/28/2020 9:25:51 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom

An editorial published Friday in the New England Journal of Medicine speculated that the coronavirus currently causing panic in world markets could turn out no worse than “a severe seasonal influenza” in terms of mortality.

Citing an analysis of the available data from the outbreak in China, the authors note that there have been zero cases among children younger than 15; and that the fatality rate is 2% at most, and could be “considerably less than 1%.”

Those who have died have been elderly or were already suffering from another illness — as with ordinary flu. The underlying data suggest that the symptoms varies, and fewer than one in six of the cases reported were “severe.”

The authors note that coronavirus looks to be much less severe than other recent outbreaks of respiratory illnesses:

[T]he overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.

The vast majority of patients recover, and among those who are hospitalized, the median stay thus far is 12 days.

Coronavirus, they note, does spread easily, and the average infected person has infected two other people. That means the U.S. should expect the illness to gain a “foothold.” But they note travel restrictions on China (imposed by President Donald Trump over the objections of some critics) “may have helped slow the spread of the virus.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: covid; sars
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To: Freedom56v2
And another thing, the facts on my side.
How many confirmed cases in the US?
So far 15+1. Out of which 8 have been already sent home after getting cures and the rest responding to treatment.
All the rest of is pure hot air.
Are there people getting paid to spread mass hysteria, chaos, confusion and panic to send Trump's ratings down and make him lose in November?
Of course!
It happens every election year. Only difference is there is an order of magnitude VASTLY more money being paid to these clowns this year than ever before.
21 posted on 02/29/2020 1:30:28 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

Oh puleeze!
China is not even close to shutting down. Most of the huge Chinese economy outside Wuhan is chugging along quite nicely thank you very much. Even the worst predictions have the Chinese economy growth only slowing down by just a few points. The operative word being “growth”. Not only is the Chinese economy NOT GOING INTO A RECESSION, THE ECONOMY WILL ACTUALLY GROW THIS YEAR, just at a slower rate.
Get real!


Get real? How about you put up or stop...Proof please...ALL CAPS...BIG POST...Show me the money.

You accuse others of being paid to post, but I asked you to please post a source for your “facts.” Nada, Zed, Zero, Crickets...

You don’t post any source and instead you attack me...

I have been here a long time...heck of a lot longer than you...so SHEESH I am not paid to post anything...Frankly I listen to Fox business News channel daily because I trade the markets daily...I have heard no one support what you are saying...NO ONE on Fox Business no one on line......

I support the President and administration who are taking the issue seriously. But you go ahead and denigrate me and others for posting what you find uncomfortable.

Oddly, I never said China was going into recession...I just find it irritating that some here just won’t let threads about Coronavirus be...Can’t you just go find another thread instead of attacking posters who want to share information...

Again, I asked you to provide a source for any proof of what you are saying...You say China is doing well, so please post a source...In fact You say China is not going into a recession in ALL CAPS...so please provide your reasoning...Maybe it is because you own too much BABA?

My takeaway, You have an opinion...but it is no better or worse than those you accuse of being “clowns” or accuse of being paid.

“Oh PULEEZE” Just Who is paying YOU?


22 posted on 02/29/2020 1:30:47 AM PST by Freedom56v2
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To: SmokingJoe

Wow so you are very invested in this..
Who is paying YOU?


23 posted on 02/29/2020 1:31:38 AM PST by Freedom56v2
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To: Freedom56v2
Easy. All you do s go to Google. You don't need me to provide any link.

Chinese GDP growth 2020:

https://www.google.com/search?q=expected+chinese+gdp+growth+2020&rlz=1C5CHFA_enGB890GB890&oq=expected+chinese+gdp+growth+2020&aqs=chrome..69i57j33.13031j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

We should be so lucky.

24 posted on 02/29/2020 1:37:07 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

SHEESH.

There is a pattern...You’d best study it...Every country has a few cases, then a slight spike and then a parabolic spike...

And here we are not testing for all cases...

See no evil hear no evil, speak no evil. Our low test results are not reflective of the true story.

BTW, I have a family member doing MS in infectious diseases/infection control....they are concerned...I trust them a heck of a lot over whoever you are...


25 posted on 02/29/2020 1:37:15 AM PST by Freedom56v2
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To: Freedom56v2

Seriously?

Your source is from 2/3. Ancient history!!!

Good luck...


26 posted on 02/29/2020 1:40:50 AM PST by Freedom56v2
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To: Freedom56v2
Over here on FR, we support President Trump. We don't need paying from anybody.
You, who are busy spreading disinformation and fear are another matter altogether.So who is it that is paying to sell your souls, if you have a soul that is.
Soros or Bloomberg?
27 posted on 02/29/2020 1:42:02 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Freedom56v2
I source from the IMF, World Bank etc projected Chinese GDP growth 2020.
What you got?
More mindless garbage hysteria from the internet?
28 posted on 02/29/2020 1:45:56 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

An engineered hoax designed to take down the economy and then Trump? You have to remember that the ChiComs and the globalists will do ANYTHING to get the USA to drop tariffs. But even a fake medical scare? Maybe. Free Traitors™ are fanatics.


29 posted on 02/29/2020 1:53:22 AM PST by central_va
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To: Freedom56v2

You are gambler not an investor and Faux Business ( expect for Lou Dobbs ) are carnival barkers and globalists. They want churn.


30 posted on 02/29/2020 2:01:25 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SmokingJoe

Over here on FR, we support President Trump. We don’t need paying from anybody.
You, who are busy spreading disinformation and fear are another matter altogether.So who is it that is paying to sell your souls, if you have a soul that is.
Soros or Bloomberg?


Wow...Over here on FR “we” ...

Seriously?!?!

So you are so special? Well how so? To imply that somehow those of us who disagree with you are not part of FR?

You are drunk or insane and regardless you have a he** of a lot of nerve.... Uh How long have you been here? SHESH... How many threads have you posted? Tho I lurked a while before signing on in 2000, I note you have only been here since 2008...so how dare you attack me!

Do you really want to go there...I was one of the first who
supported Trump ...actually before he was even officially running SHEESH!!!

Look at your posts...You really are losing it.

SHEESH take a chill pill.

I have posted no “disinformation” My beef is with people LIKE YOU who attack anyone who posts what you disagree with...


31 posted on 02/29/2020 2:16:55 AM PST by Freedom56v2
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To: central_va

Not even going to dignify your post


32 posted on 02/29/2020 2:18:32 AM PST by Freedom56v2
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To: Freedom56v2
Let me just spell it out, This is a conservative pro Trump site.That means most Freepers tend to support President Trump. No one has to be paid by anybody to do that.
Within that context there can be plenty of healthy debate on a whole range of topics.Now if you are an anti Trump fanatic, there are plenty of web sites out there which might be more to your liking.
As far as the coronavirus is concerned, there is clearly a concerted effort by paid operatives to plant disinformation and cause as much panic as they can, with the ultimate aim of tanking the market and sending President Trumps poll numbers plummeting. Its not just on FR, its all over the internet, its all over the media and the Democrats are pumping out as much disinformation as they can to being Trump down over the coronavirus in November.
Its not going to work.
33 posted on 02/29/2020 2:49:55 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: rfp1234

A virus can be engineered genetically to attach to unique genetic sites. China is just doing their usual culling, or maybe someone forgot to shut the lab door. There has been only a little comparison data about deaths with folks who are genetically related to the Wuhan region.
Either that or we are all going to die, again.


34 posted on 02/29/2020 3:00:35 AM PST by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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To: Reno89519

“No worse than the flu? Yet China shut down the country, bulldozed roads into Wuhan, notable people are dying.”

Maybe that’s because China was experiencing protests at the time and wanted to shut them down.


35 posted on 02/29/2020 3:28:29 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: Reno89519

Too funny - we know the Flu kills an average of 30K (or so) Americans a year and I have known 2 of them over the years (both in their late 70s).

Coronavirus has, so far, infected under 100K world-wide.
The Flu infects a minimum of 29 million Americans every year.

If coronavirus infects 300 times as many folks world-wide as it has so far, it will be approaching the number of American Flu infections that happen every year.

Cue up some angst music - it will suit your “There needs to be a world plague so i can stop worrying and get to coping” attitude.


36 posted on 02/29/2020 4:25:59 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

This article confirms what I have been saying: We don’t know what the true mortality rate is. I think it’s substantially lower than 2%. This article cites a 2% mortality rate in people who were HOSPITALIZED. That’s a different kettle of fish than claiming that 2% of those infected are going to die. Asians are notoriously germ phobes and freak out at any infectious diseases. I predict this whole thing blows over by the end of this week.


37 posted on 02/29/2020 4:31:50 AM PST by bort
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To: rfp1234

Or they failed to use the PPE correctly, break in PPE protocol etc. too.


38 posted on 02/29/2020 4:33:48 AM PST by EBH (DNC=Party NON GRATA)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Flu quarantines?


39 posted on 02/29/2020 4:35:38 AM PST by Varsity Flight (Mr. President, We the People, have your back.)
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To: catnipman
i didn’t realize that FR allowed non-alarmist articles about coronavirus to be posted here ...

worth repeating

40 posted on 02/29/2020 4:41:40 AM PST by Fzob
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