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Coronavirus 'could be 1,000 times more infectious than SARS', scientists warn as they discover it plagues the body the same way as
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Posted on 02/28/2020 8:00:25 AM PST by TigerClaws

Edited on 02/28/2020 8:34:02 AM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

The coronavirus could be up to 1,000 times more infectious than SARS because it plagues the body in the same way as HIV and Ebola, scientists warn.

Experts initially presumed the spread of COVID-19 would follow the same trajectory as the SARS outbreak in 2002/3, because the viruses are almost identical genetically.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bioweapon; corona; covid19; ebola; hiv; sars; sarscov2; virus; wuflu; wuhanflu; wuhansars
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To: TigerClaws

It was from the lab, I believe. It might be naturally occurring and naturally lethal but the bat it comes from isn’t indigenous to Wuhan. The horseshoe bat is indigenous to a province that is 600 miles away. Plus, people intviewed who frequent the market that allegedly sold the bats can’t recall bats being sold there.


221 posted on 02/28/2020 8:05:37 PM PST by Crucial
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To: daniel1212

So based on the last paragraph of your post its just like the regular seasonal flu.


222 posted on 02/29/2020 6:17:38 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: dfwgator

Trillions will die!


223 posted on 02/29/2020 6:19:05 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
So based on the last paragraph of your post its just like the regular seasonal flu.

It could be, though the press promotes it as being far worse, while a previous paragraph stated,

This means it may be able to cause more damage than viruses we come across often, like the flu or common cold.

But if the promised vaccine from Israel is the best one, anti-Israel states should ban it, to be consistent.

224 posted on 02/29/2020 6:57:28 AM PST by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: daniel1212

Lets face it this flu is likely not even as dangerous as the regular flu. 6 weeks from now it won’t even make the news cycle. This is Zeka virus, West Nile virus, Ebola virus all over again.


225 posted on 02/29/2020 7:03:22 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: grey_whiskers

It was from a technical published professional paper, I don’t remember where I saw it, sorry.


226 posted on 02/29/2020 11:01:44 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: tatown
Either way we are being lied to

A number of our friends were out eating dinner and we all were saying the same thing. People are crazy. Death rates are high in areas where there is poor medical care and personal hygiene is a problem. I don't believe it's nearly as bad as they are making it out to be. It's a way to manipulate the stock market and sink the economy right before the election.

227 posted on 03/01/2020 2:58:22 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: TECTopcat

TECTopcat wrote:

“you are right and a lot of these posting repeating my main stream media are alarmist and good for their ratings but full of misinformation. The contamination rate for this virus, 2019-nCoV is much lower than most diseases even measles. see https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/02/02/coronavirus-here-are-10-misconceptions-being-spread/#187f88da2840

The,measure of infection an estimated R0 of 2.5 (infect 2 to 3 people) would fall well below the R0‘s for measles and pertussis, which tend to be between 12 and 18. These aren’t the only diseases that seem to be more contagious than 2019-nCoV. Nevertheless, an estimated R0 of 2.5 would fall well below the R0‘s for measles and pertussis, which tend to be between 12 and 18. These aren’t the only diseases that seem to be more contagious than 2019-nCoV.

so yes alarmist don’t want to report this nor that most cases are like a mild cold.”

IIRC 80% mild to medium, 20% severe, and of that 20% there’s a subset (what %?) that die due to having concurrent health issues & being old.


228 posted on 03/01/2020 7:43:46 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: grey_whiskers; 1066AD; TEXOKIE; bitt

Grey_whiskers, 1066ad, thanks for y’all’s comments on the blood type connection.

Need research on this, to find that article 1066ad mentioned!

Ping!!!

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3820281/posts?page=41#41

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3820281/posts?page=58#58

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3820281/posts?page=178#178

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3820281/posts?page=226#226

To: TigerClaws

I read yesterday that blood type can play a role with type “O” being the most resistant.

41 posted on 02/28/2020 8:21:42 AM PST by 1066AD
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To: 1066AD

Can you find that again and post a link. I know someone who is type O that I would like to share that with.

58 posted on 02/28/2020 8:30:34 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: 1066AD

Send a link to the blood type claim, if you have it, please?

178 posted on 02/28/2020 11:12:59 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

It was from a technical published professional paper, I don’t remember where I saw it, sorry.

226 posted on 02/29/2020 11:01:44 PM PST by 1066AD
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229 posted on 03/01/2020 8:06:00 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: WildHighlander57

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230 posted on 03/01/2020 8:11:33 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: Norseman

Now —that— is really odd, the numbers changing, on how many sick people on that cruise ship had died.

Norseman wrote:


>>I think a more realistic view of the dangers of this virus could be taken from the Diamond Princess...<<

Exactly. As of this morning out of 705 cases being followed from the Princess, six have died. Very few are shown as recovered.

Oops: STOP THE PRESSES!!

Well, now, this is interesting. I just double-checked the Princess figures to see if the numbers had changed and so they have. They now show only ONE death, not the five they showed earlier or the six I expected because of a report that two more had died today. Yesterday they were reporting four deaths.

It’s hard to believe they misattributed earlier deaths to the Princess, so I’m going with this: Someone has decided this is information that should no longer be honestly disclosed because the number could get out of hand and panic the hell out of everyone.

Frankly I was thinking the best we could hope for was a two percent fatality rate, given that we were already up to nearly one percent (which would be seven deaths) and there were still well over 600 open cases. Now I’m thinking no one is going to give us the actual numbers. Hopefully, I’m wrong and a rational explanation will be found for the disappearance of the deaths earlier reported.”


231 posted on 03/01/2020 8:15:52 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: grey_whiskers

IMHO they had been tinkering with 2 virii & the construct got loose...

grey_whiskers wrote:

“A *CHINESE* source — backed up by the French — confirm the significance of, though not the origin of, those amino acid sequences the Indian researchers talked about.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3052495/coronavirus-far-more-likely-sars-bond-human-cells-scientists-say

When looking at the genome sequence of the new coronavirus, Professor Ruan Jishou and his team at Nankai University in Tianjin found a section of mutated genes that did not exist in Sars, but were similar to those found in HIV and Ebola.

Instead of hooking up to the ACE2 receptor, the novel coronavirus has a cleavage site on the spike. This tricks something called the furin enzyme, on human cells, to cleave the spike at that point — allowing the viral membrane and the human cell’s membrane to join, effectuating the entry of the virus into the cell.

Guess which viruses actively have their own Furin? Ebola and AIDS.

Guess which viruses DON’T have anything like this?

“The mutation could not be found in Sars, Mers or Bat-CoVRaTG13, a bat coronavirus that was considered the original source of the new coronavirus with 96 per cent similarity in genes, it said.”

Remember — confirmed by the French, too, Chinese source.

Meanwhile, a study by French scientist Etienne Decroly at Aix-Marseille University, which was published in the scientific journal Antiviral Research on February 10, also found a “furin-like cleavage site” that is absent in similar coronaviruses.”


232 posted on 03/01/2020 8:19:17 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: null and void; 1066AD

null and void wrote:

“Yep, I’m also the guy that said the data shows the death rate has been steadily falling.”

Thank you.

Am looking for a report about blood types and susceptibility to the virus.

1066ad saw an article and couldn’t find it again.


233 posted on 03/01/2020 8:26:23 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: WildHighlander57

Found it, it was a tweet:
https://mobile.twitter.com/pepesgrandma/status/1233231247725465603

or, direct:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4475644/#!po=93.9685

Maybe someone can explain it in simple terms :)


234 posted on 03/01/2020 8:38:52 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: grey_whiskers; 1066AD; TEXOKIE; bitt

Many thanks, 1066ad !!

Ping to source of type O and virii

1066AD wrote:
Found it, it was a tweet:
https://mobile.twitter.com/pepesgrandma/status/1233231247725465603

or, direct:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4475644/#!po=93.9685

Maybe someone can explain it in simple terms :)


235 posted on 03/01/2020 8:56:09 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: WildHighlander57

thanks! interesting!!


236 posted on 03/01/2020 9:01:16 PM PST by bitt (A government afraid of it's citizens - should be afraid.)
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To: WildHighlander57

Thanks.

Good to be type O.

Isn’t type O the universal blood type (for donating, etc?)


237 posted on 03/01/2020 9:04:38 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: Jane Long

Jane Long wrote:

“Thanks.

Good to be type O.

Isn’t type O the universal blood type (for donating, etc?)”

Yes.

https://images.app.goo.gl/NGB1QpiBpKfwC5VB7


238 posted on 03/01/2020 9:32:20 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: WildHighlander57

It was odd, but it was also apparently just an error.

By the next day the fatalities had been restated as six again where they are now.


239 posted on 03/02/2020 8:59:44 AM PST by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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