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Coronavirus 'could be 1,000 times more infectious than SARS', scientists warn as they discover it plagues the body the same way as
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Posted on 02/28/2020 8:00:25 AM PST by TigerClaws

Edited on 02/28/2020 8:34:02 AM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

The coronavirus could be up to 1,000 times more infectious than SARS because it plagues the body in the same way as HIV and Ebola, scientists warn.

Experts initially presumed the spread of COVID-19 would follow the same trajectory as the SARS outbreak in 2002/3, because the viruses are almost identical genetically.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bioweapon; corona; covid19; ebola; hiv; sars; sarscov2; virus; wuflu; wuhanflu; wuhansars
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To: TigerClaws

Lol, no I had not.

I can believe it. I have a friend who lives in China. They’ll eat anything they can catch. I don’t think what I’m positing is all that far fetched.


181 posted on 02/28/2020 11:31:00 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: aces

I’m thinking, yes Trump is a genius, but he instinctively shut down travel, as if he knew something the rest of us don’t know.

OTOH, maybe it was an accident, and Xi has privately expressed this to Trump, and the virulence was convincing.

Trump shuts down the border, and China goes through the act of being upset with us.

Maybe something good will come out of this.


182 posted on 02/28/2020 11:53:23 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: grey_whiskers

Thanks for the article. Still a lot of “mights” and “mays” , but solid reporting.
No offense was ever intended.
sjb


183 posted on 02/28/2020 11:56:13 AM PST by sanjuanbob (Yes, I CAN take a joke /s)
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To: null and void

I wish you success in your endeavour. I suspect that Gruesome Newsom is doing to the California economy, exactly what True-dope is doing to the Canadian economy, PARTICULARLY that of Alberta and Saskatchewan.


184 posted on 02/28/2020 12:07:43 PM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

I expect I’ll get a Chinese buyer...


185 posted on 02/28/2020 12:23:23 PM PST by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: vespa300

I heard today that Lysol has on it’s label that it protects against the virus, They haven’t tested Purell but I’ll bet Clorox would be pretty effective.


186 posted on 02/28/2020 12:32:16 PM PST by surrey
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To: sanjuanbob

Naah, I was just being overly literal.
Trust but verify and all that.
Pass, and all’s well...


187 posted on 02/28/2020 1:05:26 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: surrey

We ordered ‘this stuff. Seems to work well...we’re still alive.
https://www.metrex.com/en-us/products/surface-disinfectants/cavicide


188 posted on 02/28/2020 1:15:22 PM PST by sanjuanbob (Yes, I CAN take a joke /s)
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To: tatown

C). Not enough test kits to evaluate whether people are dying of pneumonia, flu, sepsis, or Covid-19.


189 posted on 02/28/2020 1:26:31 PM PST by EnquiringMind
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To: ClearCase_guy

And the mortality rate isn’t shockingly high.


Compared to what?

We don’t have cohort information, and the raw data is slanted towards deaths, but the raw numbers put the mortality rate at about 100 times the flu (which is undoubtedly higher than it will be).

On the other hand, it’s not Ebola high at all.


190 posted on 02/28/2020 1:34:08 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: tatown

Most epidemiologists say that death rates are almost always exaggerated at the beginning of any outbreak for that very reason.


Very true.

Also true that it takes longer to recover from the disease than it takes to die from it.


191 posted on 02/28/2020 1:48:26 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: TigerClaws

Why not go all and make it one million times more infectious? 1000 times isn’t scary enough.


192 posted on 02/28/2020 2:28:02 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: tatown
Would you please stop being so rational. We are all going to die. 😁
193 posted on 02/28/2020 2:29:27 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: lepton
the raw numbers put the mortality rate at about 100 times the flu

Most common number I've seen is 2%. I'm not that scared.

194 posted on 02/28/2020 3:02:03 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: sarge83

>>I think a more realistic view of the dangers of this virus could be taken from the Diamond Princess...<<

Exactly. As of this morning out of 705 cases being followed from the Princess, six have died. Very few are shown as recovered.

Oops: STOP THE PRESSES!!

Well, now, this is interesting. I just double-checked the Princess figures to see if the numbers had changed and so they have. They now show only ONE death, not the five they showed earlier or the six I expected because of a report that two more had died today. Yesterday they were reporting four deaths.

It’s hard to believe they misattributed earlier deaths to the Princess, so I’m going with this: Someone has decided this is information that should no longer be honestly disclosed because the number could get out of hand and panic the hell out of everyone.

Frankly I was thinking the best we could hope for was a two percent fatality rate, given that we were already up to nearly one percent (which would be seven deaths) and there were still well over 600 open cases. Now I’m thinking no one is going to give us the actual numbers. Hopefully, I’m wrong and a rational explanation will be found for the disappearance of the deaths earlier reported.


195 posted on 02/28/2020 3:12:09 PM PST by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The flu has a fatality rate of 0.0092. The most common death rate for CV is about 0.025. I guess you can do the math.

But if you think it won’t affect you, you are wrong. The impact on the supply chain and potential impacts in the US will impact you.

You are not going to die (I hope.). You probably won’t even get sick.

That really isn’t the story—and I don’t understand why this gets buried in the headlines. The overwhelming of the healthcare system and the associated impacts on “work” site will cause the Q2 and Q3.

The story is economic and cultural, not “Oh noes we are going to die.”


196 posted on 02/28/2020 3:15:59 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: ClearCase_guy

The 2% figure is simply bad math.

2% is also pretty high.


197 posted on 02/28/2020 3:19:53 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
The doom crew is acting like they want the death rate high...just so they can be right. Very weird. 🤷🏻‍♂️
198 posted on 02/28/2020 3:23:49 PM PST by tatown
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To: tatown

Your assumption would be accurate I guess, unless you did five minutes worth of reading on the subject.

In China the cases mean you were in the hospital and tested.

They were doing about 400 tests a day. So, that’s the case increase for many days.

Then they changed to CAT scans. They added 14,500 cases in a day.

Then they changed back to “in the hospital and tested.”

Finally, about two weeks ago, the CCP appointed head of the crisis in Wubei province declared that there would be no more cases. And voila...it was the end of the growth of cases.

The CCP dragon lady in charge should have been in place weeks ago!

Oh, and during this time...for about the past six weeks, the crematoriums in Wuhan have been running 24/7. They brought in 40, count them 40 industrial furnaces to burn Animal carcasses and medical waste. They didn’t define what animals—but why get detailed now.

And thos crematoriums? They have been spewing such levels of sulfur dioxide—the chemicals from burning people, that the plumes are detected from space.

But yeah, it’s barely a flesh wound.

I am sure there are a bunch of people wondering why they haven’t heard from Auntie Wang in a while.


199 posted on 02/28/2020 3:24:47 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: tatown

You can either roll up your sleeves and understand what this thing is, what it does...and review how China has acted for the past six weeks..or I guess you can come on here and just make fun of people.

No matter. Neither side is going to change a thing.


200 posted on 02/28/2020 3:28:51 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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