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No, Not Sanders, Not Ever. He is not a liberal, he’s the end of liberalism.
New York Times ^ | February 27, 2020 | David Brooks

Posted on 02/27/2020 7:31:33 PM PST by karpov

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Now I have to decide if I’d support Bernie Sanders over Trump.

We all start from personal experience. I covered the Soviet Union in its final decrepit years. The Soviet and allied regimes had already slaughtered 20 million people through things like mass executions and intentional famines. Those regimes were slave states. They enslaved whole peoples and took away the right to say what they wanted, live where they wanted and harvest the fruits of their labor.

And yet every day we find more old quotes from Sanders apologizing for this sort of slave regime, whether in the Soviet Union, Cuba or Nicaragua. He excused the Nicaraguan communists when they took away the civil liberties of their citizens. He’s still making excuses for Castro.

To sympathize with these revolutions in the 1920s was acceptable, given their original high ideals. To do so after the Hitler-Stalin pact, or in the 1950s, is appalling. To do so in the 1980s is morally unfathomable.

I say all this not to cancel Sanders for past misjudgments. I say all this because the intellectual suppositions that led him to embrace these views still guide his thinking today. I’ve just watched populism destroy traditional conservatism in the G.O.P. I’m here to tell you that Bernie Sanders is not a liberal Democrat. He’s what replaces liberal Democrats.

Traditional liberalism traces its intellectual roots to John Stuart Mill, John Locke, the Social Gospel movement and the New Deal. This liberalism believes in gaining power the traditional way: building coalitions, working within the constitutional system and crafting the sort of compromises you need in a complex, pluralistic society.

This is why liberals like Hubert Humphrey, Ted Kennedy and Elizabeth Warren were and are such effective senators. They worked within the system, negotiated and practiced the art of politics.

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KEYWORDS: sanders; warren
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He's right about Sanders, but wrong that Warren is much better.
1 posted on 02/27/2020 7:31:33 PM PST by karpov
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To: karpov

David Brooks is not right about anything.


2 posted on 02/27/2020 7:33:42 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Click my screen name for an analysis on how HIllary wins next November.)
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To: karpov

This ***hole is also on my Airport List.

L


3 posted on 02/27/2020 7:34:27 PM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: karpov

Socialism is liberalism.


4 posted on 02/27/2020 7:35:43 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: karpov

Yes, he is the end of “liberlism”

The end product that is.


5 posted on 02/27/2020 7:36:00 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: karpov

The same for Ted Kennedy, who I can never forgive for making deals with Yuri Andropov when Andropov was head of the KGB.


6 posted on 02/27/2020 7:36:14 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: karpov

David Brooks is the token “conservative” at the NYT.

He’s really a liberal.


7 posted on 02/27/2020 7:36:32 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: karpov

$%^# u and your ego Brooks. Destroy the country just because you don’t like a guy huh? $#$% off arrogant New York @#$#@@@.


8 posted on 02/27/2020 7:37:21 PM PST by vespa300
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To: karpov

I would say David Brooks is really stupid but, that would be redundant, since he already knows...

Bernie 2020!


9 posted on 02/27/2020 7:37:25 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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To: karpov

Sanders is where the DemocRats were heading anyway.


10 posted on 02/27/2020 7:38:01 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (A socalist is someone that wants everything you have except your job.)
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To: karpov

If capitalism precedes socialism and communism, liberalism is its enabling catalyst all along the process


11 posted on 02/27/2020 7:38:19 PM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hatse:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

No kidding.


12 posted on 02/27/2020 7:38:41 PM PST by sauropod (David Horowitz: “Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out.”)
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To: karpov

David Brooks WILL vote for Bernie Sanders over Donald Trump and you can bank that.


13 posted on 02/27/2020 7:39:00 PM PST by devane617 (Kyrie Eleison, where I'm going, will you follow?)
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To: karpov

Now that Crash and Bernie Sanders has opened the kimono on the Democrats’ real intentions, they’re scattering like cockroaches.


14 posted on 02/27/2020 7:39:15 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (BLACK LIVES MAGA)
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To: Responsibility2nd

He greatly downplays the deaths caused by communism, it is closer to 100 million, not 20 million.
Stalin killed 4 million in 1932-33 in Ukraine alone.
Mao killed 50-60 million.


15 posted on 02/27/2020 7:41:02 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: vespa300

The goal for 30 years by both parties has been to import enough people to outvote the citizens, turn the USA into North Mexico and subsume it to the UN.

That’s what drives Bush League Republicans and Democrats.


16 posted on 02/27/2020 7:43:28 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: karpov
this article reinforces the point that the present state of the democrat party is the primary reason the founders added the 2nd amendment.

If a socialist movement overthrows our government from within then we will need to defend ourselves

Absolute government control (socialism) never serves liberty and justice, only death to any opposition

17 posted on 02/27/2020 7:43:32 PM PST by KTM rider ( .......than to post and remove all doubt)
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To: karpov

Liberalism, socialism....same thing.


18 posted on 02/27/2020 7:43:59 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (We need to reach across the aisle, extend a hand...And slap the crap out of them)
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To: karpov

RINO David Brooks
writing in a liberal newspaper
saying that Sanders the communist is bad
while saying that Warren the communist is good

I feel just a little bit dumber after reading this.


19 posted on 02/27/2020 7:45:21 PM PST by kidd
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To: karpov

C’mon, Brooks. You know you’d vote for a communist over Trump. Who are you kidding?

What’s the matter? Not impressed by the drool on the crease of his trousers?


20 posted on 02/27/2020 7:51:02 PM PST by OrangeHoof (The Democrats - Unafraid to burn in Hell.)
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