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Leaked Documents Reveal Coronavirus Infections up to 52 Times Higher Than Reported Figures in China’s Shandong Province
The Epoch Times ^ | 2-26-2020 | Nicole Hao

Posted on 02/26/2020 10:17:17 AM PST by DEPcom

The novel coronavirus outbreak in eastern China’s Shandong province is much worse than officially reported, according to a series of internal government documents obtained by The Epoch Times.

(Excerpt) Read more at theepochtimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: clickbait; coronavirus; falonggong; tinfoil
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Should I believe the China Government CCP or other media sources?

The Epoch Times appears to be Breitbart of China when doing China stories.

Is Epoch Times a good source?

1 posted on 02/26/2020 10:17:17 AM PST by DEPcom
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“sick man of Asia” (東亞病夫) It's Baaak!
2 posted on 02/26/2020 10:18:57 AM PST by HangnJudge (Kipling was right about humanity)
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To: DEPcom

They’re as I understand it run by a group Falon Gung (sp?) that is persecuted as a sect in China, but they do very good reporting.


3 posted on 02/26/2020 10:18:59 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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“Is Epoch Times a good source?”

That’s a tough one. They are Falun Gong and really have it out for China after the ChiComs captured a few of their reporters. I haven’t seen anything too off-kilter though. They do seem to have sources in China.


4 posted on 02/26/2020 10:20:14 AM PST by proust (Justice delayed is injustice.)
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To: DEPcom

Ok, I am sure they are. This virus is particularly hard on those in poor health and the elderly. China is being exposed for what it is. A place where it’s average citizens are starved, in poor health and the government could care the less because communist governments regard their citizens as disposable.

So let’s all panic and crawl into a ball.


5 posted on 02/26/2020 10:20:34 AM PST by FlipWilson
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I hate to sound cold, but WHO CARES already about China??

It’s Obviously not having ANYTHING NEAR the effect outside of that third world sh..hole.

I feel bad for the folks there, but we have known all along they were screwed.

It will affect the economy somewhat. It is what it is.

Maybe it will infect their military and set them back a generation.


6 posted on 02/26/2020 10:21:09 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point finger at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to makne ends meet)
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I give them a big dose of salt on what they say about China. Epoch News is controlled by Falun Gong, aka Falun Dafa, who are mortal enemies of the Red Chinese. They may be right, but they also have huge axe to grind.


7 posted on 02/26/2020 10:21:11 AM PST by kaehurowing
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China is a black box with lying as one of their chief exports. “May you live in interesting times” is an old Chinese curse btw.


8 posted on 02/26/2020 10:22:52 AM PST by angmo (America invented the Moon, so we could go there.)
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Well, who would you sooner believe?

The Epoch Times?

Or Communist China?

Who do you think is more likely to be reliable?


9 posted on 02/26/2020 10:23:11 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: proust

I find interesting articles At Epoch Times and bring them here. And I agree I haven’t seen anything out of place I couldn’t bring here....but it is still media so you’ve always got to watch out.


10 posted on 02/26/2020 10:23:53 AM PST by caww
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What I worry about is China produces a lot of products and parts for other factories etc. If they stop coming to work & when supply of parts affects manufacturing, factories slow down laying off workers, driving up prices, impacting the economy, even short term just in time for the election could have a huge impact


11 posted on 02/26/2020 10:24:21 AM PST by Jimmy The Snake (Remeber)
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To: caww

Yeah, so far so good. Independent media needs to be supported.


12 posted on 02/26/2020 10:25:21 AM PST by proust (Justice delayed is injustice.)
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Falun Dafa being executed by the PLA

So yeah, they aren’t fond of the CCP when they are frequently used for organ transplants and target practice.

13 posted on 02/26/2020 10:26:27 AM PST by datura
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To: 9YearLurker

[They’re as I understand it run by a group Falon Gung (sp?) that is persecuted as a sect in China, but they do very good reporting.]


All sects and religions are persecuted in China. Falungong has stepped up to the challenge and actually done something to fight its persecutors. If only China’s far more numerous Christians were as organized and focused on overthrowing the regime.


14 posted on 02/26/2020 10:27:28 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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Epoch has proven to be pretty straight up and in depth


15 posted on 02/26/2020 10:28:19 AM PST by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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[I give them a big dose of salt on what they say about China. Epoch News is controlled by Falun Gong, aka Falun Dafa, who are mortal enemies of the Red Chinese. They may be right, but they also have huge axe to grind.]


Only one of these organizations has killed tens of millions of Chinese, after gaining complete control of it, and it’s not the Falungong.


16 posted on 02/26/2020 10:29:13 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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Pretty ice to shoot a bound woman on her knees in the back of the head...7.62x 39

Course if you refuse it’s you up against that dirt wall next


17 posted on 02/26/2020 10:31:00 AM PST by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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WHO CARES already about China??

Well, what began in China is now in 36 nations, this since mid December. Then there is a question of our economy tied tightly to China's supply chain; when that is disrupted so is our economy. We're about to see the effects of globalism and free trade as implemented by liberals, and as of now we haven't a clue where or how it will end.

18 posted on 02/26/2020 10:31:15 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: DEPcom

Many years ago (and some recently), I would do economic research on China.

Can you trust Government statistics. NO. For a few reasons:

1) Everything in china is political, so the degree of lies is directly proportional to how political something is. If something is not highly political (say, amount of sugar produced in a Province, if the info exists, it is probably pretty accurate)

2) The central statisticians, even with the best intentions, are also lied to by those below them. Its the nature of any bureaucrat, but particularly communist ones.

3) Decades ago, they didn’t have the money, structures or systems to keep good records. This of course has improved a lot recently. And when they want to, they keep extremely detailed information

I’m sure Xi Jinping has really great info on a subject he wants info on. Coronavirus is a political bomb. What they will release to their own citizens, much less to foreigners, is a VERY different matter.


19 posted on 02/26/2020 10:32:19 AM PST by PGR88
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Epochs readership has increased substantially since I first began glancing at it and was cautious at that time....however I came to appreciate the writers style of reporting so kept returning.


20 posted on 02/26/2020 10:32:28 AM PST by caww
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