I was a merit badge counselor.
Both boys, now men, are disgusted with "Scouts BSA," and the continuing feminization of the BSA that you seem to celebrate.
FReegards!
Posted on 02/20/2020 4:53:49 AM PST by Rummyfan
HEADLINE: Boy Scouts Files Chapter 11 Bankruptcy in the Face of Thousands of Child Abuse Allegations
The Boy Scouts of America (BSA) have long been on the left’s hate list. Any organization that has the temerity to train young men in the virtues of integrity, patriotism and self-reliance is putting itself on the fighting side of liberals!
At the 2000 Democratic National Convention, a little group of Boy Scouts took the stage as part of the opening ceremony -- and were promptly booed by the delegates.
For decades, the BSA has fended off lawsuits demanding that they embrace the holy trinity of G's: girls, gays and godless atheists. (If only it had occurred to the plaintiffs to start their own organizations! They could have given them names like “The Girl Scouts.”)
Why would any liberal want to join an organization that was, according to them, sexist, Bible-thumping and bigoted? They didn’t. The lawsuits were kill shots.
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In February so far, our troop has grown by 23 scouts graduating from Weblos dens.
The Troops is strong and is supported by packs that are also strong.
Further, the District and council are strong
Many here are totally ignorant about scouting organizations and totally misunderstand what scouting can and does accomplish
Because of that independence, you didn’t have a centralized authority playing “hide the child rapist” as you did in the Church.
That is absolute drivel
While there have been some queers and pedophiles, plaintiff lawyers picked a soft target to attack and loot
There are more queer choirmasters than scouters
It was all about the bucks. The big woke corporate donors who sat on BSA board and who’s big contributions paid the salaries of the bloated headquarters staff forced the politically correct insanity. They also brought in the vile Gates to implement the poisonous policy.
Bingo!
Robert Gates to blame for allowing homos and pedos into the BSA. Also was former CIA chief. Makes one wonder.
Are you 12?
NOTE: I apologize for the length of this post, but it is something I feel passionately about, and I don’t know how to say it in fewer words, except to summarize it in the last two paragraphs of this post, so if you can’t find the time to read it, I won’t be insulted if you jump to the end.
jz638, I disagree that their open acceptance of homosexual men in their volunteer ranks didn’t kill them. I think it did, but in the sense that it was a nail in their coffin. (That doesn’t mean it wasn’t going to happen anyway, it just accelerated it, IMO, and worse, they did it of their own free will. They weren’t forced into it. They allowed it.
Freeper Lurker had it right when he said they committed suicide. And Freeper Allendale has it spot on when he opines they will do the same to the American military...they have made great inroads there as well.
Predation of young boys by homosexual men has gone on as long as there have been humans, IMO. And as long as that has been going on, there has been an accompanying effort to cover up due to the associated shame of it both from a personal and a group perspective.
The “shame” of men preying sexually on boys is also being corroded. It is no surprise that there are those at all levels of life who are pushing to lower the age of consent to make us more like the “tolerant” Europeans who often view our fussy American attitudes towards sex not only as being hypocritical (with some justification) but also as being prudish and puritanical.
In my opinion, there is a two pronged approach by the Left: one prong aims to remove the shame of homosexuality by normalizing it at all levels of society, and they have largely succeeded. The other prong aims to reduce the age of sexual consent, there are those who think it should lowered to as low as 13, and there are even some who think the age of consent should be discarded altogether.
It is undeniable that both of these prongs exist, and while the normalization of open homosexuality has made far more progress, it would be naive to think that lowering of the legal age of consent is impossible or even that far behind. As evidence, one only has to look at the state of homosexuality in living memory in 1970, and compare it to today. Fifty years ago, open homosexuality as is seen today was unthinkable even if people discussed it, and the lowering of the age of consent to 13 or lower was not even something that could be discussed in society. That has been a great victory for the Left, there is no denying that. Does anyone believe that fifty years hence, that powerful forces such as the homosexual lobby could not be leveraged to lower the age of consent could be 13?
If you take those two prongs and combine them (and there are significant components largely in the left who believe in both of these prongs) then what you are left with is an environment where it will be perfectly fine and legal for a predatory homosexual Scoutmaster or teacher to be alone with a large herd of 13 year old male prey.
As for the Leftist trope that homosexual men are no more likely to be molesters of young boys than any other group, Ann Coulter said this in her article that belies that false claim: she said: “Throughout the left’s 30-year assault on the Boy Scouts for discriminating against gays, the Catholic Church was embroiled in its own molestation crisis. More than 80% of the molester priests were accused of victimizing teenage boys.”
Not little girls. Little boys. Granted, this could also be due to the higher concentration of homosexuals in the Priesthood than may have been accepted fact in the past, but I maintain that due to their lack of morality and self-restraint, they abuse young boys at a higher rate than heterosexual men may be involved in the abuse of young girls.
I was a Boy Scout, and it was a valuable experience for me. It is part of who I am, and as another poster stated, there can only be a positive effect from having Scouts recite the oath as we were required to do at the beginning of each meeting we had. (Doubt they still do that) I was no angel, as a matter of fact, I was as open to peer pressure and my own lack of common sense and intelligence as any kid, and did my share of things that would make the recitation of the Scout Pledge seem positively hypocritical from the same person. But what I have found in life is that I am flawed. I am as tainted by wrong-doing and callous stupidity or cruelty as any person, but...I don’t accept it as the Left would have me do. I fight it. I have fought flaws in my character my entire life, and every time I fall down, I try to pick myself up and do better.
The Scout Pledge:
“On my honor I will do my best to do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law; to help other people at all times; to keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight.”
I have failed at nearly every part of that oath in my life, except for one. The beginning: “On my honor, I will do my best...”
I have failed at many points in my life times to “do my duty to God and my Country” or to “keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight”, but there is one thing I have never failed to do: to try on my honor to do my best. I may do bad things or wrong things, but I will never accept that as my nature, and will always...ALWAYS strive to do better. And I try not to make excuses for my failure, I try to own it. And that is one of the cleavage points between Conservatism and Leftism. I may make mistakes and do wrong, but it isn’t someone else’s fault, it is mine, and it is my job to right a wrong I do and do better going forward. The Left not only has no corresponding views, they stand on views that are diametrically opposed to that.
The concepts in the Scout Oath are something that we as a society should have young men aspire to, not ridicule and destroy as is the wont of the Left. And they have won with The Boy Scouts. It is an ongoing war on boys, masculinity, self-reliance, honor, religion, and patriotism. All those are things that were embodied in the existence of the Boy Scouts, and expressed specifically in the Scout Oath (and in the military as well) and ALL of those things are antithetical to the Left.
All of them. It is why the Left has tried with all of its might since the Sixties (and earlier) to destroy them...and it is why we must stand up to them, and fight for them.
I was a merit badge counselor.
Both boys, now men, are disgusted with "Scouts BSA," and the continuing feminization of the BSA that you seem to celebrate.
FReegards!
Responsible parents have the wherewithal to teach the same values the Scouts teach, if not all the specific skills.
It’s not the duty of any organization to act as the exclusive moral guides for children. That is a parent’s job.
Most here, including you apparently, don’t know that the current problems are the result of a very few individuals many years ago. They teamed with lawyers to go after deep defenseless pockets of BSA.
With that aside, for many years BSA has maintained a strict policy of Youth Protection Training. Every leader must take the training every two years to remain registered. further for a very long time, there is a requirement for two deep leadership. that is, there can never be one on one contact between a scouter and a boy.
Further, although Queer leaders are allowed by BSA, they may be rejected by the troop sponsoring institution. It is the Sponsoring Institution that has the final say about who can and who can not be a Scout leader. Further, each application is scrutinized and the travelers, pedos, who traveled around seeking leadership positions, no longer exist in scouting. They now ply their nefarious sexual trade in little league and soccer teams.
Most here who complain are just plain ignorant about BSA. They just do not know what they whine about
You speak in theoretical rather than practical terms
I've heard of very rare cases of male pastors going after teen girls, but the celibacy component isn't present for protestant and Jewish clergy.
Homosexuals corrupt everything they are involved in
Yes,that’s true.As a *very* imperfect Catholic I’m quite puzzled by the celibacy rule..particularly given that it’s very unevenly enforced. It’s not difficult to imagine a pervert who becomes a priest,as happens occasionally,committing sodomy with both men *and* boys.
just observant. are you his mother?
That the BSA is DEAD is not something I am ignorant of.
Sorry, bert. You may think it isn’t dead, but it is. You can have your own private Boy Scouts now and that is fine, but it isn’t part of a larger fraternity.
Screw the training. People don’t need to be trained to know right from wrong. Anyone can take and pass training, and that includes Scoutmaster pedophiles or any other kind of pedophile.
If you think I am “whining” about the war on masculinity, boys, honor, God, patriotism and self reliance, then you are just playing into the hands of the Left. Because that is a reality.
Whining indeed.
All they had to do was stand firm and refuse to bend.
Instead they allowed themselves to be infiltrated by subversive elements and it destroyed them.
My kids finished Cub scouts last year where I was the cubmaster of the pack. Neither of them wanted to move on in scouting.
In light of this pervert, I was ok with walking away.
If their youth protection program worked maybe this would not have happened
The John Jay report demonstrated that homosexual men are attracted to post-pubescent boys, not little boys. Most of the victims in this study were in their mid-teens.
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