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Virginia House passes bill to award electoral votes to whoever wins the popular vote
The Hill ^ | 02 12 2020 | Aris Folley

Posted on 02/12/2020 10:41:58 AM PST by yesthatjallen

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To: Lurkinanloomin
That’s easy, no standing.

States have standing. Thanks for playing, we have fabulous prizes for you. Go back to chasing Obama's birth certificate.

81 posted on 02/12/2020 11:54:11 AM PST by centurion316 (.)
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To: yesthatjallen

So voters in CA will decide who gets VA’s electoral votes ? It will end up in the SC in no time.


82 posted on 02/12/2020 11:55:31 AM PST by libh8er
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To: mmichaels1970
"And they're "deciding" to, rather than go by the total votes in their state, go with the total votes in the popular."

Except there is no such thing as the "National Popular Vote". States routinely do not count absentee, military, or provisional ballots if there are not enough to make up the difference in the vote total for that state. If the election results were to come from a national tally, all this people would automatically become disenfranchised.

Violation of Equal Protection. Unconstitutional.

83 posted on 02/12/2020 11:55:47 AM PST by 10mm
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To: centurion316

His alleged birth certificate .jpg says his father was a foreign national.
That was enough to disqualify him.


84 posted on 02/12/2020 12:00:59 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
Thompson was a lawyer from Lawrenceburg, Tennessee, and he represented some really shady people from NE Mississippi that were involved in bid rigging and massive embezzlements. He remained close friends with them until his passing. His association with these families in NE Mississippi made me question his ethics. Even though he was instrumental in bringing down the Ray Blanton group, he was a part of the dishonest people just across the state line.
85 posted on 02/12/2020 12:02:13 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: Lurkinanloomin

An assertion not supported by any court decision, federal ruling, regulation, statute or anything else. It’s not even on the back of the Corn Flakes box.


86 posted on 02/12/2020 12:06:09 PM PST by centurion316 (.)
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To: libh8er
So voters in CA will decide who gets VA’s electoral votes ?

Our Founding Fathers gave smaller states the EC so they wouldn't be locked out by larger states. Now the smaller states are willing to give up their votes to bigger states.

It's troubling how short-sighted people are.

Liberals believe Trump is a dictator yet liberals are willing to surrender their vote and their future votes to those more powerful.

87 posted on 02/12/2020 12:08:22 PM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: centurion316

Minor vs Happersett 1874

Chief Justice Waite

“The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.”

http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html


88 posted on 02/12/2020 12:10:59 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: P-Marlowe
Trump is going to win the popular vote by at least 10,000,000.

If he even wins by 10,000, the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact will lose some states. I doubt that is even Constitutional.

IF the Republicans ever regain control (I know, I know) they should vote to award EC votes by Congressional District and strip the Metro areas of the power to call statewide Presidential Elections.

89 posted on 02/12/2020 12:14:06 PM PST by Oatka
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To: yesthatjallen

So if 10 states voted for Bernie by a 99:1 ratio, and the rest cumulatively gave a 1-vote plurality to Trump, then if those 10 states were in the compact all of their EVs would go to Trump.

Look, I hate Bernie’s politics with a red-hot passion, but that just isn’t right. The EVs of each state are supposed to be based on the vote IN EACH PARTICULAR STATE. This is - regardless of which way EVs are shifted - a disenfranchisement of a lot of voters. I cannot see that it can pass muster at the Supreme Court.


90 posted on 02/12/2020 12:16:06 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
Minor vs Happersett 1874

I love it. It's my favorite citation, the standard for the clueless who think that the Supreme Court defined the term, Natural Born Citizen. This case was about sufferage, nothing to do with citizenship. You clearly don't know how to read Supreme Court decisions. No more fabulous prizes for you. BTW, I've told you that before.

91 posted on 02/12/2020 12:16:59 PM PST by centurion316 (.)
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To: yesthatjallen

And the Constitution says:????????


92 posted on 02/12/2020 12:17:56 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: goldstategop

“States can award their EV to whomever they want. Its constitutional.”

I think you’re right, each state handles it however they want.. What will probably happen in 2020 is that Trump wins the electoral college and the popular vote, so he would actually get Virginia’s electoral votes even if Virginia votes democrat.


93 posted on 02/12/2020 12:18:08 PM PST by Texan Tory (Laissez rouler les bons temps!)
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To: centurion316

There are others, see the link.

http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html


94 posted on 02/12/2020 12:20:01 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: yesthatjallen

When Trump wins the popular vote, you can bet VA will come up with an excuse as to why they won’t award him their electoral votes.


95 posted on 02/12/2020 12:20:44 PM PST by euram
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To: goldstategop
States can award their EV to whomever they want. Its constitutional.

That's as I read it too. In theory the Virginia state government could simply say "our electoral votes will go to the Democrat candidate no matter what" and get away with it, at least until the legislators started dangling from lamp posts.

96 posted on 02/12/2020 12:24:31 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: yesthatjallen

Hey,
If they can do this then let’s say Trump can run for a third term. 1st one don’t count on account of the failed impeachment and all.


97 posted on 02/12/2020 12:26:11 PM PST by griffin
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To: yesthatjallen

The party of the people is saying to heck with the way the people of Virginia vote.


98 posted on 02/12/2020 12:27:32 PM PST by Midwesterner53
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To: yesthatjallen

Well, this looks like a pisser if you are a voter in Virginia. California, Oregon, Washington and New York will dictate the game.

Bad idea Virginia.


99 posted on 02/12/2020 12:29:55 PM PST by ptsal
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To: yesthatjallen

Sounds unconstitutional to me, as this effectively nullifies the votes of the persons voting within the state.

This has been brought up before and it will go nowhere.


100 posted on 02/12/2020 12:34:18 PM PST by RooRoobird20
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