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Iranian state TV says 80 "American terrorists" killed in Iran missile strikes
Reuters ^ | January 8, 2020 | Staff

Posted on 01/08/2020 2:21:55 AM PST by C19fan

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To: DoughtyOne
When they go back home, it’s back to hating each other again.Again - that's mainly the Sunni-Shia. Within the Sunni, there are differences with the Hanafi, Hanbali etc schools vs the Wahabbis, but the Wahabbis have won over much of the Sunni world - exceptions being the states I listed above.
81 posted on 01/10/2020 12:46:45 AM PST by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: DoughtyOne
Has Pakistan ever expressed a desire to destroy Israel? I don’t recall it.

Pakistan will destroy Israel in 12 minutes, warns Pak military official - Khabar Gaam

A high degree of suspicion and mistrust exist between Israel and Pakistan. In particular, Pakistan seems to presume the worst about Israel. At the end of December 2016, a fake-news story triggered a nuclear Twitter confrontation between Israel and Pakistan. A website called “AWD News” claimed that Israel’s defense minister had threatened to destroy Pakistan with a nuclear attack if it sent ground troops to Syria on any pretext. Although clearly fake (the website misidentified the Israeli defense minister as Moshe Ya’alon, who resigned in the previous May), Pakistan’s defense minister hastily tweeted a nuclear threat and warned Israel that “Pakistan is a nuclear state too.”

The growing security relationship between Israel and India, serves to enhance conspiracy theories about the existence of an Indo-Israeli alliance against Pakistan. Thus, unsurprisingly the recent visit by Israel’s prime minister to India in January 2018 produced a bellicose Pakistani response. The foreign minister, Khawaja Muhammad Asif, stated that Pakistan could defend itself “despite this nexus between India and Israel” that is based on their enmity with Islam. Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu wisely reacted by stating that “We (Israel) are not enemies of Pakistan and Pakistan should not be our enemy either”.

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During the 2008 Mumbai attacks by Pakistani jihadis, they specifically went to kill a Jewish couple in a Chabad house (a house for people to stay, pray and celebrate Sabbath) - no military target, just a symbolic one

Pakistan has the highest number of Israel haters among the populace

82 posted on 01/10/2020 12:47:34 AM PST by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: DoughtyOne

The reason for this is that Pakistan was create as the religious state for Muslims. and they need to define themselves by that - and hatred of the Jews is a key component to that definition


83 posted on 01/10/2020 12:48:18 AM PST by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Al Q and Al Fatah are Saudi created Wahabbi groups.

The Muslims Brotherhood are Wahabbi-ish, but not Saudi.

Hizb’allah are Shia and Irani sponsored, correct - and when have you seen them carry out any jihadi attack outside the middle east?


84 posted on 01/10/2020 12:54:13 AM PST by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: DoughtyOne

you listed the things Hussein did to his people - that’s not much worse than any other Arab ruler - and nothings happened to them.

The Gulf War one did cause Al Q to focus on attacking the USA because “infidel troops were based on the holy soil of Arabia”


85 posted on 01/10/2020 12:55:36 AM PST by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: DoughtyOne; dp0622

I got updates from Iranian exiles here and from one anti-regime contact in Tehran — take this with a pinch of salt as it is from severely anti-Ayatollah sources.

But they say that the mood on the streets has completely changed.

Until a week ago it was “they killed a SOB, but it was our SOB.”

Now Solemani is ‘forgotten’ — the mood is “the regime is constantly lying to us, we won’t forget. USA is not the great satan, but you are”.

The mood is very much anti-government now. According to the sources, even the militias are anti-government

I don’t see the government falling in a coup this year, but it may go out with a whimper in that time or in a year or two. The time is close and Trump seems to have won this


86 posted on 01/15/2020 12:45:20 AM PST by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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Please name the other rulers in the region who attacked another nation, and wound up costing 250,000 of his own citizens their lives, plus 250,000 of that nations citizen’s lives.

Further, remind me all the other nations that used chemical weapons against their citizens who were not mounting an armed assault on the government at the time.


87 posted on 01/15/2020 12:22:48 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The Leftistist media and particularly CNN NEWS should come with a ten day supply of Cipro.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Al Saud for one. And now MBS with his war in Yemen.

Again, I’m not saying Saddam was anything but an evil tyrant - but my point is that he was the lesser evil for the region and the USA would have been better placed if it never got involved in Gulf war one


88 posted on 01/16/2020 1:07:16 AM PST by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Cronos

Quit wasting my time with your ignorant responses.


89 posted on 01/16/2020 11:01:07 AM PST by DoughtyOne (The Leftistist media and particularly CNN NEWS should come with a ten day supply of Cipro.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Just because you don’t agree with facts doesn’t negate them or make them ignorant. Ranting like that is the Dummycrat way


90 posted on 01/17/2020 12:20:40 AM PST by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Cronos

No other leaders you can name from the Middle East have cost over 500,000 lives.

You trying to offer up some is pure nonsense.

Peddle you’re crap somewhere else.


91 posted on 01/17/2020 10:04:25 AM PST by DoughtyOne (The Leftistist media and particularly CNN NEWS should come with a ten day supply of Cipro.)
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Cronos, it’s not my place to tell you to peddle your crap elsewhere.

You touched on the issue of me not liking things, but they were facts. I wasn’t sold on that premise.

I asked you who else was responsible for the deaths of over 500,000 people in the Middle East other than Hussein, and you mentioned two. I’d never heard of them causing that many deaths. I objected strenuously to your mentioning them, and I saw it as evidence of still one more person trashing us for going after Hussein.

I posted that, “...you should go peddle your crap elsewhere.” I didn’t mean for you to literally do it, but then that is what I said.

I am sorry I reacted that way, and told you something that is not my case to make. I was wrong to say that to you, and I would like to apologize, and hopefully have you accept it.

You have been contributing to discussions on religion and other topics, and I would hate to think I had influenced you to leave here.

Hope to see you on the forum soon.


92 posted on 01/19/2020 5:09:26 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The Leftistist media and particularly CNN NEWS should come with a ten day supply of Cipro.)
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To: DoughtyOne

The thing is - I’m not disputing with you that Saddam was a horrible monster, I’m not disputing with you that he killed many of his own people and many others.

What I am stating is that

1. his monstrosity isn’t the reason he was taken down; in my opinion neither was it his taking over another oil state. It was the Saudi influence which led to it

2. that his rule, evil as it was, was still better for:
a. the USA
b. the Christians in that region
c. the non-Muslim world


93 posted on 01/20/2020 12:26:29 AM PST by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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